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For clarification, it's important to differentiate between VAC and game bans and Server bans. A server ban in this context refers to an individual server blacklisting an account or SteamID, effectively banning the account from that specific server. It is not like a VAC ban or Game ban as it doesn't apply on Steam, only to that specific game server.
No one is denying or attempting to deny server admins rights to the servers they pay for or self-host. The fact of server owners banning accounts that show a game ban from accessing their server is being pointed out because people are attempting to argue that game bans have no negative affects on people's ability to play online, which is blatantly false as they absolutely do, on account of server administrators banning people due to red text bias and faith that the game ban system isn't being abused.
No one is arguing against their right to do that, it is being pointed out as a side effect to the flawed game ban system which allows game developers to indirectly inflict these hardships upon players for petty and/or incorrect reasons. The problem is that any game dev can deface someone's profile and ruin their reputation forever, and cause the problems described for that person for no good reason other than that they wanted to do it to them.
We cannot prevent Server bans at Valve; whoever runs the server can ban players for any reason they desire.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74#notvac
As much as you and others may not like it, bans have a stigma or consequences, they would be meaningless.
Just like when users want to be able to trade their items and the account has a VAC ban.
I don't believe that the OP has a ban that is incorrect. I don't believe the other person in this thread who also has a game ban and a VAC ban. He's trying to explain away the gamd ban yet you can't explain a VAC away as easily.
Again, if you'll look at the thread that the op made in 2020, you'll see that they were given a link to report harassment.
If he used it and reported it, his claim certainly didn't hold any water or the ban would have been removed.
You can sit here and argue against this for the next hundred pages, but the fact remains that the ban still being there, speaks volumes.
Humans are capable of lying. The op is no different.
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Thanks again for the free points.
Why are you trying to lecture me on what a server ban is? What do you think a server administrator does? I did it for over 10 years. I had the ability to permanently ban people from our servers.
And our rules were more strict than Valves' If you got a VAC ban, your account and you the person were banned from all of our servers indefinitely. Unless you were able to get the ban removed, as in being incorrect. You couldn't even come back on a new account, which is what Valve allows you to do.
It was a total excommunication.
In the event that your account is banned by VAC, Punk Buster, or any other third party software installed on our servers, you will be required to appeal to those developers. Only then, if your ban is lifted you will be granted an appeal and be required to submit an unban request in the banned forums. If you are not able to resolve this issue with those developers, you are to remain banned from all TTP property indefinitely. TTP has zero tolerance for people that choose to cheat.
In the event that you are discovered to have a current, or closely linked VAC or PB ban on your current profile (steamID, player, etc), you will be excommunicated. As a player, you should know that such scarlet letters will affect you, and TTP can not be affiliated with people that have such histories.
If you are found to have been recently banned by VAC or PB, and obtain an ID merely to circumvent the ban, you will be excommunicated.
The problematic aspect is that it is too easy for devs to apply one of these bans maliciously, and cause these problems for someone who does not deserve it. Some have talked about methods to curb this such as removing Red text from profiles and making game dev bans private, something that would indeed work. Though the best solution is to just make it harder to do this to people, and take action against the ones that do, which has not been happening lately.
The great thing about freedom of thought is that you can believe whatever you want to believe. However I will reinforce that your belief or lack of belief doesn't change anything here because you don't actually have any authority here when it comes to judging bans (only people who work at Valve get that power).
At the end of the day no one is going to stop you, your beliefs are up to you. However people will challenge your beliefs if they do not align with reality, and the reality is that game bans often go unchecked by Valve, regardless of what policy says on paper.
I mean there are literal nazi comments still standing on the forum here, that ♥♥♥♥ goes blatantly against Valve's guidelines, if they can't deal with that, I fail to see why they would be so much more attentive towards someone getting a fraud game ban in some game that barely anyone really cares about (a game which probably shouldn't even be on the store since it used stolen assets from another game but that's getting a bit off topic).
Something else I should note, the person who has a game ban and VAC ban hasn't tried to explain away their VAC ban as incorrect, now you're just blatantly making stuff up.
The VAC ban is from an indie game called Depth. I had no idea such a game would be VAC enabled, and all I did was attempt to use cheat engine to give myself some more points ingame to unlock more stuff. I regret it deeply. However, it's important to note that I have and will never cheat to gain an unfair advantage among others. I am deeply against that. It just sucks I am being labeled as such. I suffered with this for 7 long years and I was really glad it was finally hidden.
But now this crazy dev put an unjust Game Ban on my profile, and it made the VAC ban appear again... This really blows and it made me quite depressed, to be honest. It's so unfair and the system is designed against you. There is nothing you can do, you are powerless. Even with all the evidence supporting your claims.
I had a positive review for Task Force. When he game banned me from the game, I listened to support and I asked why I was banned, and the developer doubled down and banned me from the forums. So the only other way to communicate back to the developer was to edit my review and switch it to negative and let everyone know how he has abused the steam ban system. There are no holes here. I posted a promotion for him, I dominated in his game, all the proof is on video, there was no cheating. 3 days later he issued the game ban.
The fact that Valve tells you to go talk to the criminal to be free of them is absolutely ridiculous and a flawed system.
I am not afraid to admit when I am wrong too. I have years if creditable reputation since 2007 on YouTube VS a developer that has launched about 5 unsuccessful projects which he did the same thing, banning people.
Maybe you should have known the future that the criminal would rob you of your reputation as he has robbed people of thousands of dollars previously.
Also, you should go talk to the criminal who robbed you but also we the officers of the law can't do anything even though he has been reported x amount of times it must be xx amount of times or hurt us in the media or be larger amounts of $ to steal before we can do anything about it. Here is his website that has no relevant information to help you but also here is the community board which you are also banned from replying because you previously asked the robber why you were robbed.
-Valve bot responses.
It's a way to punish people who did wrong (i.e. cheating) but the downside is it's also an abuse vector because devs can apply this type of punishment and ostracism to anyone they want without valid reason to do so. Like in the case of Task force or the emoji game, and with no recourse when it is incorrect like in the case of many of Task Force's bans, and only a small chance of action from Valve in obvious cases like with Emoji clicker, a game without online functionality.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/4133808627028094541/?l=czech#c4133808627035350944
So, it reappearing, is irrelevant.
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....and EVERY game that is VAC enabled, says as such, on that games' store page.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/274940/Depth/
"Valve Anti-Cheat Enabled"
Also, CE DOES cause VAC bans if it is used to cheat on a VAC enabled game in a VAC secured server.
ANYTHING that alters protected game files and/or game memory, is a cheat. It doesn't have to give any kind of advantage.
The VAC ban already ruined the accounts' reputation and he did that himself.
Now you are transparently lying misrepresenting his words since he literally said the VAC ban was from cheating in your own quote of him, not that the dev gave him a VAC ban. No one here is falling for this, quit while you're ahead.
Also yes CE indeed can cause bans if you're hooked into a VAC enabled game and cheating online.
Also VAC bans reappearing is indeed an issue, not because people can't check for it, but because it makes it easier for basic average intelligent red text trolls to harass the user. When hidden it's not obviously apparent to them at first glance when they see the person, so they're less likely to troll and harass.
Also, there is no effort. It takes seconds, if that.
Yes, I am well aware. I am a web developer, and quite an expert on all Steam API. I even documented much of the internal Steam web API here:
https://github.com/Revadike/InternalSteamWebAPI/wiki
That's definitely not true. Not having a prominent label marking you as a cheater on your profile makes a significant difference. The past is the past, and people can still look up my ban history, but at least it's not an ongoing concern. Additionally, people are aware of how old the ban is. If it's not visible, it's at least seven years old, which most would agree is enough time for someone to change significantly. Now, with it reappearing, the time is reset and it only shows up as recent. As I've said before, I never had bad intentions and still don't. It's the idea behind it: Say you cheated as a foolish child, you can turn your life around as an adult and shouldn't be perpetually haunted by past mistakes once you've already changed.
Yes, this is hindsight. I just didn't expect it from a random indie game, but that's no excuse. I now know better.
I understand, but it's the principle behind it. Personally, I believe it's okay to cheat as long as it doesn't ruin the game experience for others, such as in competitive games. For instance, modding Skyrim is perfectly fine in my opinion. Do you really see things so black and white that you treat every cheater the same?