Alternatives to YouTube for Steam profile videos
Yes, I'm writing this because I got censored today - since I only had video game videos on my account, I have to presume its because of my profile photo protesting an individual blatantly guilty of the mass murder of over 15,000 Palestinian children and the actually-proven beheading of a baby in Rafah a few weeks ago.

Like I'm so very and deeply sorry that I can't selectively suspend my affect of emotion and empathy the way "my fellow" Americans can(though I have to say "my fellow" Americans have been doing a great job at training me to do so towards themselves - especially Big Tech companies). I love how that's considered "hate speech" - criticizing someone who massacred children even more than Hamas.

Someone with an arrest warrant and on trial for genocide? Can't compare them to someone else who was blatantly guilty of that!

So yea, I'd really like you to consider alternatives to YouTube for posting videos. They clearly are a company that became a political propaganda and censorship machine a long time ago, and while I know that according to some of you I deserve the same rights as the lives of the children I had the AUDACITY to defend WITH A PROFILE PHOTO - and at this point the feeling is f***ing mutual - I think its obviously overdue to suggest this.

Dailymotion, Vimeo, Odysee, Nebula, etc. Or just make your own. Its completely up to you. I just think that enabling YouTube as a company by giving them complete monopoly control over Steam videos is a mistake. I also think that Netanyahu is just like Hitler and Hamas for what they did to babies and other children, so clearly I'm a lunatic for having equitable and "Llamas With Hats"-level-banal standards for everyone including myself.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Yes, I'm writing this because I got censored today - since I only had video game videos on my account, I have to presume its because of my profile photo protesting an individual blatantly guilty of the mass murder of over 15,000 Palestinian children and the actually-proven beheading of a baby in Rafah a few weeks ago.

Like I'm so very and deeply sorry that I can't selectively suspend my affect of emotion and empathy the way "my fellow" Americans can(though I have to say "my fellow" Americans have been doing a great job at training me to do so towards themselves - especially Big Tech companies). I love how that's considered "hate speech" - criticizing someone who massacred children even more than Hamas.

Someone with an arrest warrant and on trial for genocide? Can't compare them to someone else who was blatantly guilty of that!

So yea, I'd really like you to consider alternatives to YouTube for posting videos. They clearly are a company that became a political propaganda and censorship machine a long time ago, and while I know that according to some of you I deserve the same rights as the lives of the children I had the AUDACITY to defend WITH A PROFILE PHOTO - and at this point the feeling is f***ing mutual - I think its obviously overdue to suggest this.

Dailymotion, Vimeo, Odysee, Nebula, etc. Or just make your own. Its completely up to you. I just think that enabling YouTube as a company by giving them complete monopoly control over Steam videos is a mistake. I also think that Netanyahu is just like Hitler and Hamas for what they did to babies and other children, so clearly I'm a lunatic for having equitable and "Llamas With Hats"-level-banal standards for everyone including myself.
Most of that has nothing to do with Steam.

People have asked for alternatives, but many of those places love breaking the dependencies for code, so keeping up with them just to support some videos that are usually not about games isn't really anywhere near priority. You're free to link to videos on your profile from anywhere, but they should remain within the rules for their use.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mad Scientist:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Yes, I'm writing this because I got censored today - since I only had video game videos on my account, I have to presume its because of my profile photo protesting an individual blatantly guilty of the mass murder of over 15,000 Palestinian children and the actually-proven beheading of a baby in Rafah a few weeks ago.

Like I'm so very and deeply sorry that I can't selectively suspend my affect of emotion and empathy the way "my fellow" Americans can(though I have to say "my fellow" Americans have been doing a great job at training me to do so towards themselves - especially Big Tech companies). I love how that's considered "hate speech" - criticizing someone who massacred children even more than Hamas.

Someone with an arrest warrant and on trial for genocide? Can't compare them to someone else who was blatantly guilty of that!

So yea, I'd really like you to consider alternatives to YouTube for posting videos. They clearly are a company that became a political propaganda and censorship machine a long time ago, and while I know that according to some of you I deserve the same rights as the lives of the children I had the AUDACITY to defend WITH A PROFILE PHOTO - and at this point the feeling is f***ing mutual - I think its obviously overdue to suggest this.

Dailymotion, Vimeo, Odysee, Nebula, etc. Or just make your own. Its completely up to you. I just think that enabling YouTube as a company by giving them complete monopoly control over Steam videos is a mistake. I also think that Netanyahu is just like Hitler and Hamas for what they did to babies and other children, so clearly I'm a lunatic for having equitable and "Llamas With Hats"-level-banal standards for everyone including myself.
Most of that has nothing to do with Steam.

People have asked for alternatives, but many of those places love breaking the dependencies for code, so keeping up with them just to support some videos that are usually not about games isn't really anywhere near priority. You're free to link to videos on your profile from anywhere, but they should remain within the rules for their use.

Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mad Scientist:
Most of that has nothing to do with Steam.

People have asked for alternatives, but many of those places love breaking the dependencies for code, so keeping up with them just to support some videos that are usually not about games isn't really anywhere near priority. You're free to link to videos on your profile from anywhere, but they should remain within the rules for their use.

Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?

Valve hasn't made one because it costs A LOT of money thats why. Why do you think all those places have 3rd party ads infesting their videos and/or charge people a lot of money to watch ad free?

If you haven't noticed, there are no 3rd party ads on Steam. Its all for stuff they sell. Putting ads for stuff they sell on Steam won't bring in enough money, so they would have to put ads from other places on those videos to help pay and even then they would have to put a lot of ads. And if you haven't noticed, people HATE ads, specially for stuff they will never buy.

I myself use ad blocker EVERYWHERE because of people having their systems infected by ads because viruses and stuff were injected into the ads. Even sites that were trusted can and have had this done to them.

Youtube is right now looking at injecting ads server side because not enough people are warning ads and they have been having a war with ad blockers.

But because Steam is not your regular browser, people will not be able to use an ad blocker, and well if one person is able to inject a virus into an ad... well you're gonna have a whole lot of people infected.

I also won't pay to watch videos or for people to watch my videos.

Again, video hosting and streaming is VERY expensive. Are you willing to pay 50+ bucks a month to have your videos hosted on Steam? And remember if you stop paying, your videos vanish and are gone for good unless you have them stored on your computer or somewhere else.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gwarsbane:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:

Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?

Valve hasn't made one because it costs A LOT of money thats why. Why do you think all those places have 3rd party ads infesting their videos and/or charge people a lot of money to watch ad free?

If you haven't noticed, there are no 3rd party ads on Steam. Its all for stuff they sell. Putting ads for stuff they sell on Steam won't bring in enough money, so they would have to put ads from other places on those videos to help pay and even then they would have to put a lot of ads. And if you haven't noticed, people HATE ads, specially for stuff they will never buy.

I myself use ad blocker EVERYWHERE because of people having their systems infected by ads because viruses and stuff were injected into the ads. Even sites that were trusted can and have had this done to them.

Youtube is right now looking at injecting ads server side because not enough people are warning ads and they have been having a war with ad blockers.

But because Steam is not your regular browser, people will not be able to use an ad blocker, and well if one person is able to inject a virus into an ad... well you're gonna have a whole lot of people infected.

I also won't pay to watch videos or for people to watch my videos.

Again, video hosting and streaming is VERY expensive. Are you willing to pay 50+ bucks a month to have your videos hosted on Steam? And remember if you stop paying, your videos vanish and are gone for good unless you have them stored on your computer or somewhere else.

Again, Steam is hosting video games, which are a lot more complicated than videos to host. Glossed over that to make some hyperbole about a $50 subscription, which to be blunt I'd be willing to pay at this point as I have a job and can afford it.

The canned responses are predictable enough without them just being tossed out with hyperbole and in spite of my attempting to avoid them with points about how you're already hosting VIDEO GAMES.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?
Full stop; No.
Steam doesn't have to be an everything platform, nor should it be. At the most it has some recording thing coming out but this is a video game store, not another video platform site.

If you want to upload videos; use a video platform.
If you want to buy games; use steam, ubi, gog ea app etc.

Given most of the op seemed very politically charged and had nothing to do with games I can already see the issue with turning steam into some sort of video platform site where users want fos (freedom of speech) which doesn't exist here in a private platform with rules. It would likely be far more strict than yt for acceptable content.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Mad Scientist; 16. Juni 2024 um 8:35
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Again, Steam is hosting video games, which are a lot more complicated than videos to host.
Its more convoluted then that. Videos multiplied by hundreds of millions of users can actually use up more bandwidth then the games. Not to mention videos bring up issues of DRM and strikes which if someone reports and steam doesn't act on then they can be liable for it.

In the end its a lot of costs, management, etc and it doesn't really add anything to steam's revenue but introduces a lot of cost and risk
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Brian9824; 16. Juni 2024 um 8:48
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?

This is coming soon-ish...

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720970742993331

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720973809033332

Not long/large videos but it's something.

:winterbunny2023:
Xirus XI 16. Juni 2024 um 11:44 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?

This is coming soon-ish...

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720970742993331

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720973809033332

Not long/large videos but it's something.

:winterbunny2023:

Its better than nothing. Perhaps I could make clips to recover some of the footage that was lost on my days off, though hopefully this feature gets expanded for larger videos that are strictly video game related, of course.

Assuming I don't lose my profile for having a soul, which is far more than I can say for the pseudo-intellectual hypocrite that responded before you.

Thank you for actually being constructive about this instead of just trying to shut me up with a canned response and a canned excuse to censor me when I didn't accept it. I would say I wish there were more people like you on the Internet, but I don't want to wish such a terrible thing on people like you. :P
Aya 18. Juni 2024 um 7:02 
Digging this thread up because the Youtube implementation has been completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ since March and partially ♥♥♥♥♥♥ since 2020.

The best time for Steam to add support for non-Youtube support was four years ago.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xirus XI:
Again, why can't Steam make its own video platform for videos strictly about video games? You already have a platform for video games and photos. Video games are a lot more advanced than videos. It doesn't make sense to outsource to a different company that has been mired in controversy more and more as time passes. Steam has at least for the most part shown impartiality. Why continue to enable a company that is clearly as partisan as Twitter, Reddit, or 4 chan?

This is coming soon-ish...

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720970742993331

https://x.com/thexpaw/status/1795720973809033332

Not long/large videos but it's something.

:winterbunny2023:
A video clip showcase would be pretty awesome.
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