dont allow blocked users to post on a persons discussions

Psymon² Jun 15, 2024 @ 1:21am

why? because valve don't care.

here's someone asking from 2016

and here's someone asking from last month

and you can bet there's been hundreds of requests in between too.

can recommend reading that recent one to get a better idea of the kind of "discussion" you can expect around here...

#1

BJWyler Jun 15, 2024 @ 1:23am

Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.

#2

I STAPLE TAPEWORMS ON MY Jun 15, 2024 @ 1:25am

Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.

the issue is that people can disrupt the discussion and make it about OP

#3

BJWyler Jun 15, 2024 @ 1:28am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.
the issue is that people can disrupt the discussion and make it about OP

And that's the nature of a Public Discussion Forum. Again, if you want to control the narrative make use of those resources that allow for it. Others prefer the wild and unpredictable nature of open dialogue, even if that means dealing with trolls who think they are entertaining, but really arent.

#4

76561199492560916 Jun 15, 2024 @ 1:35am

Considering everyone is invited per Steam's own words, they're not going to give regular users control over who can post where or in which thread.

If they're off-topic, derailing, etc. just report, block and move on.

#5

zirkustier Jun 15, 2024 @ 2:41am

Great idea, you block anyone who disagrees with you, creating your own "public" echo chamber of yes-men.

I believe the opposite of this is called discourse

#6

Piston Smashed™ Jun 15, 2024 @ 2:53am

If you want control of your own discussions go and create your own Steam Group, then you can control what is said as master of your own echo chamber...

#7

I STAPLE TAPEWORMS ON MY Jun 15, 2024 @ 3:43am

Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.

Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
Considering everyone is invited per Steam's own words, they're not going to give regular users control over who can post where or in which thread.

If they're off-topic, derailing, etc. just report, block and move on.

Originally posted by zirkustier:
Great idea, you block anyone who disagrees with you, creating your own "public" echo chamber of yes-men.

I believe the opposite of this is called discourse

Originally posted by Piston Smashed™:
If you want control of your own discussions go and create your own Steam Group, then you can control what is said as master of your own echo chamber...

you guys love enabling harrassment

#8

Crazy Tiger Jun 15, 2024 @ 3:48am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
you guys love enabling harrassment

That's a two way street. One could say trying to stop people from participating just because they don't like their opinions is harrassment as well. Cause yes, that will be the main utility people will use it for.

#9

Mad Scientist Jun 15, 2024 @ 3:52am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.
the issue is that people can disrupt the discussion and make it about OP

There are cases where an op may be known to make troll threads for the purpose of trying to bait users. Quite often if people make it about an op, its due to a well documented history of an op trolling, baiting, or otherwise being insincere in regard to a thread.

Public forums almost never if anywhere make it so blocked users can't comment on threads, it prevents direct profile to profile communications as designed.

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
you guys love enabling harrassment

We have seen other users equate mere disagreement to "harassment", those users usually have a high moderation history so giving them any form of power to control where other users could post would be extremely unwise.
Its best people realize how forums work compared to social media before using a forum.

Last edited by Mad Scientist; Jun 15, 2024 @ 3:53am

#10

Piston Smashed™ Jun 15, 2024 @ 3:54am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.

Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
Considering everyone is invited per Steam's own words, they're not going to give regular users control over who can post where or in which thread.

If they're off-topic, derailing, etc. just report, block and move on.

Originally posted by zirkustier:
Great idea, you block anyone who disagrees with you, creating your own "public" echo chamber of yes-men.

I believe the opposite of this is called discourse

Originally posted by Piston Smashed™:
If you want control of your own discussions go and create your own Steam Group, then you can control what is said as master of your own echo chamber...
you guys love enabling harrassment

Harassment? I gave you a fully legit suggestion where you can take control of what people say, that is NOT harassment. The forums are for public use, meaning everyone can use them and people are allowed to disagree with you, me or anyone else on these forums as long as they do it in a civil manner.

#11

Brian9824 Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:09am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Because these are Public Discussion Forums.

They are not Facebook.
They are not Twitter.
They are not Blogger.
They are not MySpace.
They are not Reddit.

If you want to control who is or is not allowed to post, use one of those outlets or create a Steam Group. Those who enjoy the open nature of discussion on a Public Discussion Forum enjoy it for the openness.
the issue is that people can disrupt the discussion and make it about OP

If they do that you report them and then a moderator deals with them. The entire point is a random forum user will never get to dictate who is or isn't allowed to post on PUBLIC forums.

Everyone is allowed to participate in the forums, and if anyone breaks the rules then moderation deals with them.

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
you guys love enabling harrassment

Nope, its just that a random user on the internet doesn't get to declare something is harassment, steam does. Fun facts, i've literally seen users post ideas that would put people's PC at risk if they did what he said. Anyone who posted anything negative was accused of harassment and the OP got banned for harassing other users.

That person would have loved to be able to block people who warned others, but everyone but him followed the rules and is allowed to participate.

#12

Pipe Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:18am

I agree this should be a thing. it would single-handedly improve the quality of the forums without any need for mod intervention

Originally posted by Psymon²:
why? because valve don't care

^ this. if they did, they would've already fixed the problem where you get notifications from blocked users' comments/threads

(btw, reminder that any discussion that happens under a suggestion thread has no effect on whether valve implements it or not)

#13

no154370 Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:30am

OP is breaking steam online conduct rules

1) As a Steam subscriber you agree to abide by the following conduct rules. In general, as a Steam user you should be a good online citizen and not do anything that prevents any other Steam user from using and enjoying Steam.

He is also curbing ''free will'' too

#14

Start_Running Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:32am

Originally posted by Dog⛧ve/ver:
why is this not a thing already

Because discussions are PUBLIC.
The person who creates them has NO OWNERSHIP.

#15

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