Steam Trading Cards? Why just Why?
This is a forum for people to post their ideas and compilaints about steams card system that has been implemented for quite some time.
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Really why should your level be off of trading/buying cards? I believe that you should level up your profile by getting new and more games, playing time, and friends etc. I really don't think that Steam should have had it impossible to get all the cards and make a badge without trading or buying stupid cards. That idea right there is the stupidist to me. Its just turning into another system where the you pay money to win. With is also a idiotic idea. Putting money into something that isn't useful and frankly no one gives 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ about? Oh big deal if you want your friends to see what your top screen shoot is. I believe A. that should be a normal feature that any one should have
or B. The more time , games , and friends you have the higher level and the more features you should have.
I would be happy with the system if all you had to do if play the game long enough to get all the cards. BUT NOO
Автор сообщения: Innocent
Really why should your level be off of trading/buying cards? I believe that you should level up your profile by getting new and more games, playing time, and friends etc. I really don't think that Steam should have had it impossible to get all the cards and make a badge without trading or buying stupid cards. That idea right there is the stupidist to me. Its just turning into another system where the you pay money to win. With is also a idiotic idea. Putting money into something that isn't useful and frankly no one gives 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ about? Oh big deal if you want your friends to see what your top screen shoot is. I believe A. that should be a normal feature that any one should have
or B. The more time , games , and friends you have the higher level and the more features you should have.

1. There is nothing to win, it's just a social cosmetic system.
2. You do not speak for everyone. Who are you to determine what is useful and what everyone cares about?
3. The system is already set in stone. There is nothing you can do to change it without :jarate:ing off everyone else that invested in to the system.


Автор сообщения: Innocent
I would be happy with the system if all you had to do if play the game long enough to get all the cards. BUT NOO

It's called trading cards, not idling cards.
I like the trading card system. Valve have been smart in designing something that's very profitable for them, while making it perfectly viable for gamers to gain levels through card drops and trading rather than spending directly on the cards.

I do agree there should perhaps be more ways to gain XP though. Aside from community related stuff, achievements would seem like a more obvious answer than playing time, which gamers can just idle for. The problem there though is do Valve retrospectively award XP for achievements already acquired? I can imagine quite a few people who have already gone through pretty much all of the achievements in their library getting a bit upset otherwise. Then of course there's the whole other issue of achievement-unlockers.
Отредактировано Lu; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:16
1. Yeah of coarse there is nothing to win its just a profile, My arguement is to change the system to have it so you can get all the cards and get the badge, without spending /trading cards.
2. Would you A. Rather get your cards from paying or B. Do it the real man way and play the actualy game.? ( Its just my op
3. Well if youtube can manage to piss people off and still run fine . I'm sure steam can to lol

Really its just steam become into the stereo typical "pay to win" type of "game,"
Автор сообщения: Marma
I like the trading card system. Valve have been smart in designing something that's very profitable for them, while making it perfectly viable for gamers to gain levels through card drops and trading rather than spending directly on the cards.

I do agree there should perhaps be more ways to gain XP though. Aside from community related stuff, achievements would seem like a more obvious answer than playing time, which gamers can just idle for. The problem there though is do Valve retrospectively award XP for achievements already acquired? I can imagine quite a few people who have already gone through pretty much all of the achievements in their library getting a bit upset otherwise.


Yes exactly I have plenty of freinds that have had played steam for years before the new card system came out and most of them where a higher level, and now are bumped down "noobs." When they have already played 100s of hours trying to level and get achievements, instead of paying/trading cards that you get in the first 30 mins of the game.
It is very profitable for valve for sure ( and they totaly need more money). Still I think the system right now is broken and needs to be refined because really its just dumb lol. Why would you even have achievements? If they are not going to affect anything besides just a number on your game. It really ruins the point to play a game excissively. Like working to get 1000 kills with a gun to get exp is much more enjoyable than paying to get exp
Автор сообщения: Innocent
It is very profitable for valve for sure ( and they totaly need more money). Still I think the system right now is broken and needs to be refined because really its just dumb lol. Why would you even have achievements? If they are not going to affect anything besides just a number on your game. It really ruins the point to play a game excissively. Like working to get 1000 kills with a gun to get exp is much more enjoyable than paying to get exp

Because achievements can be hacked. Money on the otherhand, can't be hacked. Hours can be idled. Friends can be macro added.
Отредактировано Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:23
Автор сообщения: ᵀʰᵉ ᴿᵒᶫᶫᶦᶰᵍ Frozen Cheese
Автор сообщения: Innocent
It is very profitable for valve for sure ( and they totaly need more money). Still I think the system right now is broken and needs to be refined because really its just dumb lol. Why would you even have achievements? If they are not going to affect anything besides just a number on your game. It really ruins the point to play a game excissively. Like working to get 1000 kills with a gun to get exp is much more enjoyable than paying to get exp

Because achievements can be hacked. Money on the otherhand, can't be hacked. Hours can be idled. Friends can be macro added.
Well all of that is still relevant today, if you idle in your game for 30 mins you will get all of your cards. Those all where just sugestions, maybe like getting new games, being apart of the community.
Again I have a good motto that I live buy " Why pay for something, that is already free."
Ok I might imagine that you may pay extra for dlc or a better weapon if the game is free.
But having a number next to your name? really? lol

I actually usually don't respect people of higher steam levels ( not saying they are dumb or anything). Its just because they spend more time and money on how they look than how the actually play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. And that is where steam is screwing up, as I said before they are rewarding people who buy their cards and not really caring about the people who actually play the game

I would like to earn cards without there being a limit too. I have only one double to trade. (My account is less than 15 days old. So I can not trade them or anything.)

Look at it this way. It is a game in its own right. Wrather it be phisical cards or digital. You can also sell them too if you wanted. There is also a raffle for getting a free booster pack. (I don't expect to win any.)
The price of the cards on the market is set by other players that are selling them.

You do not have to play the trading card game if you do not want too.

Does having a higher Steam level help with anything other than the cards?
Отредактировано StealthLava; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:39
No having a higher steam level really doesn't do anything beside have show cases and another pointless things. It's just that I have spent over a year (not that long) on steam and since playing games since my early childhood, it is normal to have the process of level up your profile by playing more and hunting for achievements in games etc. and now steam through this last summer and I have not been able to actually do anything about leveling up my profile.

Don't get me wrong its cool to have some of these things
But do I think it is worth spending money to get higher levels in your profile??? no..
Отредактировано favrockcrack; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:45
Автор сообщения: Innocent
Well all of that is still relevant today, if you idle in your game for 30 mins you will get all of your cards.

Actually you only get half, then you trade half you don't need for the half you do need to get a complete badge. The idling is only a small vehicle for the small amount of card delivery. What you are proposing completely removes the trading aspect of trading cards and turn it in to an idling festival.

You see to be forgetting that cards do in fact generate revenue for Valve as well as the developers. Now why on earth would Valve or the developers relinquish this revenue?

If the system is not worth your moeny or time, then simply ignore it. Easy.
Отредактировано Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:47
I dont know about a iding festival, just imagine people worthing together to go for achievements in games and doing other objectives and goals to level up there profile vs the broken system we have now? I would definitnaly choose option number 1.

And Valve isnt making enought money? lol
The trading cards aspect is an amazing idea in theory
so is comunision but well all know how that works out.

Yes, the trading card mabye a good idea but this is reality and it is really only useful for people who want to pay money?
Instead of having this why doesn't valve just release a "premium" steam.

Knowing that they will probably keep there ways and are turning into a pay to win state. I actually wouldnt be suprised to see a premium option buy the end of this year
Отредактировано favrockcrack; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 22:55
Автор сообщения: Innocent
I dont know about a iding festival, just imagine people worthing together to go for achievements in games and doing other objectives and goals to level up there profile vs the broken system we have now? I would definitnaly choose option number 1.

And Valve isnt making enought money? lol
The trading cards aspect is an amazing idea in theory
so is comunision but well all know how that works out.

Yes, the trading card mabye a good idea but this is reality and it is really only useful for people who want to pay money?
Instead of having this why doesn't valve just release a "premium" steam.

Knowing that they will probably keep there ways and are turning into a pay to win state. I actually wouldnt be suprised to see a premium option buy the end of this year

What are you on about? The card system is at first and foremost a way to make a tiny bit more money for developers and Valve, every penny counts. It is also used as a marketing scheme to get the word out on many games. Someone goes on your profile and see a nice looking background? They might be interested in what that game is.

Furthermore TCG is just Valve's way to capitalize on a multi year old request by steam community members; the way to customize profile. They could've just given away the entire thing for free, but Valve is a business not a charity, and thus the TCG system was born.

I have already explained to you that achievements are very easy to hack and that idling is super easy to do. You would be naive to believe that people wouldn't abuse a system if it was possible to be abused. With your proposed system many people would do nothing but idle and achievement hack.

Also TCG = Trading Card Game
Отредактировано Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel; 4 янв. 2014 г. в 23:06
Автор сообщения: Innocent
I actually usually don't respect people of higher steam levels ( not saying they are dumb or anything). Its just because they spend more time and money on how they look than how the actually play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

For some reason I find that sentence to be both arrogant and jealous at the same time.
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