game feedback system , review

[Legendarny_mdw TTV]

more and more often false opinions about games appear, which is why they are losing popularity... they are unfairly rated. One such example is The First Descendant, my favorite game, which was the victim of bad "reviews". people who played for 0.2-2 hours... mostly fans of "Warframe" who created accounts just to give the game a bad rating, such behavior is reprehensible and unacceptable! How can you rate a game with a Steam account level of 0... or playing the game for 18 minutes... zero honesty and truth in this. I came up with an idea on how to solve the problem of the above and many other situations once and for all... first - if the game is possible to complete, that is, it has up to 40-50 hours of story, set the option to rate after completing the entire game (the estimated storyline of the game is 40 hours, so you can rate it from the 40th hour) secondly, if the game cannot be completed, set that you can only rate after 100 hours. This will significantly avoid a situation in which players can create accounts as many times as they want just to post opinions... Option 3, additional to the previous ones, is to set 1 opinion per IP address, best regards and I count on quick actions in this direction because as a streamer of my favorite game, I feel obliged to publicize this problem that has affected The first descendant.

[Mad Scientist]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

How can you rate a game with a Steam account level of 0... or playing the game for 18 minutes... zero honesty and truth in this.

-Level 0 if private/friends-only will be how you see them by default
-You can filter out reviews by time played.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

it has up to 40-50 hours of story

Doesn't mean that it's good.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

set the option to rate after completing the entire game (the estimated storyline of the game is 40 hours, so you can rate it from the 40th hour)

If for example, a game just completely sucks, they shouldn't have to play the whole game just to review it as being terrible.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

set that you can only rate after 100 hours.

Or, just filter the reviews you want to see by the gameplay-time filters Steam has.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

This will significantly avoid a situation in which players can create accounts as many times as they want just to post opinions

There's lots of legit F2P accounts because people can't afford to buy stuff, primarily kids. So, I highly doubt people are wasting time creating emails, accounts, and playing a game to rate a game as being bad/not fun etc.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

Option 3, additional to the previous ones, is to set 1 opinion per IP address, best regards and I count on quick actions in this direction because as a streamer of my favorite game, I feel obliged to publicize this problem that has affected The first descendant.

More than 1 kid or even adult can live in a place that has obviously, the same IP, so they don't do that because it would be silly. If off-topic review activity or suspicious activity is detected, they can do something about it, but 2 kids giving a negative review isn't going to do much to 600,601 positive reviews.

The game is at 87% Very Positive (600,601), the only 3 off-topic review detections made were all more positive than negative.

[BloodShed]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

more and more often false opinions about games appear,

Bold statement coming from someone who has no opinion (majority of your reviews are just 1-2 words).

[fluxtorrent]

Автор сообщения: BloodShed

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

more and more often false opinions about games appear,

Bold statement coming from someone who has no opinion (majority of your reviews are just 1-2 words).

agreed, reported those spam reviews

[76561199540158642]

Автор сообщения: TBS AlexDK

Who are you to decide what is false opinions?

i ask this question to myself a lot every time i get a reply from one of steams internal undercover moderator accounts that use the forum. keep in mind that my opinion on who they are because who else would go to such lengths to defend a corporation seeking to profit at there own expensive.

but more importantly the false opinions and defamation across the forums and reviews are simply ignored by steam and more so its even suggested that steam is responsible for them

(this is an opinion after all, so who decides its a false opinion?)

[TBS AlexDK]

Автор сообщения: Golden Unicorn

Автор сообщения: TBS AlexDK

Who are you to decide what is false opinions?

i ask this question to myself a lot every time i get a reply from one of steams internal undercover moderator accounts that use the forum. keep in mind that my opinion on who they are because who else would go to such lengths to defend a corporation seeking to profit at there own expensive.

but more importantly the false opinions and defamation across the forums and reviews are simply ignored by steam and more so its even suggested that steam is responsible for them

(this is an opinion after all, so who decides its a false opinion?)

Sure you can be of that opinion (tho you are also makeing a claim that is in fact not real), but it does not mean we have to agree with your opinion and that we can't criticize it, just like you don't have to agree with reviews and you can criticize reviews

[Legendarny_mdw TTV]

"Absolutely. Sometimes that's all it takes to come to the conclusion one doesn't like a game"
then the opinion should be that you don't like the game and why, let's be objective, besides 0.2 hours is not enough to assess whether you like the game because what do you assess about it? I don't like the game because the tutorial was bad?

[Mad Scientist]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw

"Absolutely. Sometimes that's all it takes to come to the conclusion one doesn't like a game"
then the opinion should be that you don't like the game and why, let's be objective, besides 0.2 hours is not enough to assess whether you like the game because what do you assess about it? I don't like the game because the tutorial was bad?

Top negative review;

Not Recommended
63.8 hrs on record
Posted: November 23
Just can't get into it. Lots of content but extremely repetitive, time-gating, resource grinding, the works. Has some high points, especially in the economy, but ultimately not for me.

Safe to say the popular negative reviews with plenty of hours give strong reasons to dislike the game. Not liking others "Not Recommended" doesn't mean there's not typical issues with a F2P game.

[Legendarny_mdw TTV]

okay because I see that this is not leading to anything, we're closing the topic, there's no point in spamming, everyone has their own opinion and that's it.

[Mad Scientist]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

okay because I see that this is not leading to anything, we're closing the topic, there's no point in spamming, everyone has their own opinion and that's it.

Users cannot close threads, but they can Unsubscribe from threads if they do not wish to receive notifications or discuss the subjects.

It does seem interesting though that a stance crumbles when presented with direct contrary objective information when seeking objective information.

[Tanoomba]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

let's be objective

When it comes to reviews, there's no such thing.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

besides 0.2 hours is not enough to assess whether you like the game because what do you assess about it? I don't like the game because the tutorial was bad?

Maybe. Maybe the controls are terrible and unresponsive. Maybe the game crashes every three minutes. Maybe the sound design is obnoxious and grating. Maybe the writing is offensive. Maybe the UI is confusing and counter-intuitive. Maybe the load times are too long. There are any number of reasons why someone might decide they don't like a game shortly after starting it.

Also, not everyone has the patience to explain in detail what they don't like about a game. Sometimes they just want their opinion to be counted even though they don't have the ability or desire to express themselves at length, and that's OK. The strength of Steam's review system is in its numbers. The more people who review a game, the more accurate that game's aggregate is going to be.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

okay because I see that this is not leading to anything, we're closing the topic, there's no point in spamming, everyone has their own opinion and that's it.

Maybe youre the one with "false opinions" then, eh?

[Legendarny_mdw TTV]

what, I'm sorry?!
You're trying to make me look like an idiot and I won't let that happen! you write to me that it is not true... I am already explaining to you, gentlemen, what the situation is
1 - players write that the game is p2w - it is not, watch Shroud's episodes on this topic.
2nd - someone writes that he can't beat the boss because he has the same element as the boss and doesn't deal any damage to him... in the game you can change the elements on the weapon... so it's his fault and not the game's fault that he can't cope

and there are many such examples

I keep saying that these are the opinions I care about - that they are not true
and you write something about me... well, it actually makes sense, just like checking my account that I haven't given many opinions... the topic of the thread is different and you're going to completely different ones. From the very beginning I wrote that the opinions mentioned earlier by me are examples of opinions that do not correspond to the truth and these opinions should disappear, that's all. What else do you have problems with?

[Brian9824]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

first - if the game is possible to complete, that is, it has up to 40-50 hours of story, set the option to rate after completing the entire game (the estimated storyline of the game is 40 hours, so you can rate it from the 40th hour)

Horrible idea, so if the game is bad you can't review it until you've played it for 40 hours? Or if the game doesn't work you can't warn people.

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

secondly, if the game cannot be completed, set that you can only rate after 100 hours.

Same problem as the first

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

Option 3, additional to the previous ones, is to set 1 opinion per IP address,

Even worse of an idea. IP addresses can be changed in seconds

You have the ability to filter reviews by # of hours played, you should use that feature

[Tanoomba]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

what, I'm sorry?!
You're trying to make me look like an idiot and I won't let that happen! you write to me that it is not true... I am already explaining to you, gentlemen, what the situation is
1 - players write that the game is p2w - it is not, watch Shroud's episodes on this topic.
2nd - someone writes that he can't beat the boss because he has the same element as the boss and doesn't deal any damage to him... in the game you can change the elements on the weapon... so it's his fault and not the game's fault that he can't cope

Great, so you've got two reviews from people who you believe misunderstood the game.

There are, and I can not stress this enough, over 95,000 reviews for that game. Ninety-five thousand. It doesn't matter if a couple of people got their facts wrong. Numbers that big don't lie. By and large, the player base has mixed feelings about the game. That's all there is to it.

[Mad Scientist]

Автор сообщения: Legendarny_mdw TTV

what, I'm sorry?!
You're trying to make me look like an idiot and I won't let that happen! you write to me that it is not true... I am already explaining to you, gentlemen, what the situation is
1 - players write that the game is p2w - it is not, watch Shroud's episodes on this topic.
2nd - someone writes that he can't beat the boss because he has the same element as the boss and doesn't deal any damage to him... in the game you can change the elements on the weapon... so it's his fault and not the game's fault that he can't cope

and there are many such examples

I keep saying that these are the opinions I care about - that they are not true
and you write something about me... well, it actually makes sense, just like checking my account that I haven't given many opinions... the topic of the thread is different and you're going to completely different ones. From the very beginning I wrote that the opinions mentioned earlier by me are examples of opinions that do not correspond to the truth and these opinions should disappear, that's all. What else do you have problems with?

Almost all F2P games highly incentivize purchases for making progression much, much sooner than any normal grinding would do. Also many F2P games incentivize it by giving items/skills slightly better than the normal version, or just items/skins etc.

The top negative review doesn't even mention "P2W", hyper focusing on reviews you personally do not like doesn't really change why a game is negatively reviewed. Even going by recent and negative only, still no mention of "P2W".