Family share pointless....

[AllegedlyZ]

Whats the point of family share if most of the games are blocked? Lets take call of duty 3 for example. Playstation can have multiple accounts on the system playing that game but you want me to buy another game for another account? Sorry but that sounds like a scam! Why cant we have multiple accounts?

[potato]

family share toggle is under dev discretion, they don't owe you it

you should be grateful family share is a thing at all

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

Why cant we have multiple accounts?

uhm, you can, nobody is stopping you from making more accounts

[Gwarsbane]

Valve is not the one that turned off family share for games, that is 100% up to the developer of the game. If you want a game to have family share, go ask them to turn it on.

Valve is not going to force it on against a developers wishes.

[Mad Scientist]

Games that turn family share off tend to be FPS games, this is usually because it was a source of cheaters that don't own the game cheating on a share feature. This means they have to spend money to cheat from that point onward unless they hijack an account.

Personally I do like it when games realize there's a problem and combat the problem. People are not owed family share, and abuse of it can result in Devs removing it or not even offering it in future releases. Else, it can just be personal choice not to offer it so people have to buy it.

[Crazy Tiger]

Family Sharing is optional for game devs to opt in to. Keep in mind that Family Sharing is not a right you have.

If you like Playstation's model, use Playstation. Different services are allowed to be ran in a different way.

With the already ongoing abuse of Family Sharing, I see Valve removing it alltogether much, much sooner than further opening it up.

[76561199559798421]

I wish Anti Cheat was a right for all users, its disgraceful that a cheating issue is a excuse to stop allowing games to be shared between purchasing families. Steam needs to really start requiring anti cheat for all of its games.

its already a known fact that steams application takes up more resources then many of the games users run, there is no argument in anti cheat taking any kinda resources away from a system when the steam app even running in the background is using more then the games people are playing.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I wish Anti Cheat was a right for all users, its disgraceful that a cheating issue is a excuse to stop allowing games to be shared between purchasing families. Steam needs to really start requiring anti cheat for all of its games.

Games sold on Steam, outside of Valve's titles, aren't "its games". And Valve is not going to start issuing requirements for games they don't own. And requiring anti-cheat isn't going to negate the publishers right to exclude their games from Family Sharing, fyi.

Although users seem to love the idea that through Steam, Valve can control the entire industry. But that's just a misguided fantasy.

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

its already a known fact that steams application takes up more resources then many of the games users run, there is no argument in anti cheat taking any kinda resources away from a system when the steam app even running in the background is using more then the games people are playing.

The resources Steam uses is not relevant to the decisions a game's developer makes. Valve cannot and will not modify games they don't own. Valve is not the developer/publisher's boss and are not going to demand certain features or requirements. And Steam's resource use has nothing to do with anything, it's just spaghetti you're throwing at the wall out of ignorance and frustration.

[ุ]

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I wish Anti Cheat was a right for all users, its disgraceful that a cheating issue is a excuse to stop allowing games to be shared between purchasing families. Steam needs to really start requiring anti cheat for all of its games.

Tell us you know nothing about anticheats without telling us.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

Family share pointless....

Whats the point of family share if most of the games are blocked? Lets take call of duty 3 for example. Playstation can have multiple accounts on the system playing that game but you want me to buy another game for another account? Sorry but that sounds like a scam! Why cant we have multiple accounts?

Activision turned off sharing for all their newer CoD titles, MW19, Cold War, Vanguard, MWII and MWIII. They will be doing this for all their future releases.

For MWIII,

Exclude from family sharing (exfgls) 1

https://steamdb.info/app/2519060/info/

1 = No sharing

In fact, they didn't realize it until after MWII released that sharing is on by default and disabled it on Halloween 2022...

https://steamdb.info/app/1938090/history/?changeid=16559027

[AllegedlyZ]

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc? 🤷‍♂️ sorry just doesnt add up to, looks to me steam put lock on popular games to make more $$$.... and yes i could be completely wrong but the world will never know 🤣

[potato]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc?

cause it's easier to cheat on pc

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc? 🤷‍♂️ sorry just doesnt add up to, looks to me steam put lock on popular games to make more $$$.... and yes i could be completely wrong but the world will never know 🤣

They'll block it on a platform when the cheating problem gets too big. Various developers/publishers revoked family sharing later on for MP oriented games.

It's optional and yes, game devs are in FULL control over it. Valve does not touch settings for games that are not their own.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc? 🤷‍♂️ sorry just doesnt add up to, looks to me steam put lock on popular games to make more $$$.... and yes i could be completely wrong but the world will never know 🤣

The Developers control if their game can be family shared or not, Valve just gives them the tool to select which they prefer.

It's also much easier to try cheating on PC, which is why they may make restrictions on PC to prevent people abusing the feature to cheat on others licenses. There may also be other bits about PS/XBOX, but this is not a PS/XBOX client, it is a PC client & PCs are capable of significantly more than consoles.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc?

cause it's easier to cheat on pc

Yep and they can easily block the console if it cheats, much harder to block a PC.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

So yall argument is activision hold the rights for sharing game, okay they let sharing on playstation and xbox, why would they block pc? 🤷‍♂️ sorry just doesnt add up to, looks to me steam put lock on popular games to make more $$$.... and yes i could be completely wrong but the world will never know 🤣

Yes. Activision explicitly disabled it on Steam themselves. They don't even allow game sharing on Battle.net on any game.

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I wish Anti Cheat was a right for all users, its disgraceful that a cheating issue is a excuse to stop allowing games to be shared between purchasing families. Steam needs to really start requiring anti cheat for all of its games.

its already a known fact that steams application takes up more resources then many of the games users run, there is no argument in anti cheat taking any kinda resources away from a system when the steam app even running in the background is using more then the games people are playing.

CoD titles already have their own custom anti-cheat called Ricochet. And having or not having it is not why sharing was disabled.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by AllegedlyZ:

Whats the point of family share if most of the games are blocked? Lets take call of duty 3 for example. Playstation can have multiple accounts on the system playing that game but you want me to buy another game for another account? Sorry but that sounds like a scam! Why cant we have multiple accounts?

Devs: I want to get paid for each copy of the game. If family share is used then only 1 person gets to play this game at any given time to prevent someone from purchasing 1 copy and sharing it amongst their friends

Some ppl: That's a scam! How dare they want to get paid for their game!


Thankfully you can skip using family share completely.