Have current USD -> CAD conversion rate being used available to the public

[Matt from SUMY Corp]

Alot of people are rightfully worried about being screwed over. I am one of these people. I would like a section on the frontpage to show the current exchange rate. Something small next to the amount of C$ in my wallet or something? Or maybe a small graph under the graph showing how many people are online, like this.

http://i.gyazo.com/f95890686e375b07b97cb6246a8f1728.png

That would be cool. Thanks.

[Pheace]

If you mean a rate at which prices are converted on the fly, it doesn't happen that way. Prices don't change with currency fluctuations.

[Satoru]

The thing is Steam wallet cards will convert to pure CAD very soon. Which makes any 'conversion' more or less moot. It will be redundant because no one will be using USD Steam Wallet cards

Otherwise the prices on the Store don't fluctuate with currencies. And thus an exchange rate is not relevant since that rate is not how steam games are priced on the store.

[Issac Brock]

引用自 YayitzMatt：

Aaaand still missing the point, Issac. We're NOT asking them to CHANGE their RATES. We just want something to show us WHAT THE RATE IS.

Let's see if I got this right. You just basically want to know what the total markup is over the USD? Even if they just published the USD price you could see the USD you could calculate the markup rate yourself. Is this what you're getting at or are you talking currency conversion rates that banks are offering?

[Matt from SUMY Corp]

引用自 Issac Brock：

引用自 YayitzMatt：

Aaaand still missing the point, Issac. We're NOT asking them to CHANGE their RATES. We just want something to show us WHAT THE RATE IS.

Let's see if I got this right. You just basically want to know what the total markup is over the USD? Even if they just published the USD price you could see the USD you could calculate the markup rate yourself. Is this what you're getting at or are you talking currency conversion rates that banks are offering?

The first one, I want to know what Steams conversion is.

[ KARR™]

引用自 YayitzMatt：

The first one, I want to know what Steams conversion is.

Aside from the wallet converting when the currency was converted as a one off thing, there is no conversion done.

The publisher says "this game needs to be 29.99 euro, 29.99 UK pounds, 49.99 us dollar and 54.99 canadian dollar" and that's what appears on the Store. Regardless what Valve thinks or does, it is up to each publisher to decide how they want to price their game in each currency. They can decide to put a 1:1 ratio or a 10:1 ratio, either way, it's not Valve doing it and there is no 'central conversion rate' used anywhere.

[Issac Brock]

引用自 YayitzMatt：

引用自 Issac Brock：

Let's see if I got this right. You just basically want to know what the total markup is over the USD? Even if they just published the USD price you could see the USD you could calculate the markup rate yourself. Is this what you're getting at or are you talking currency conversion rates that banks are offering?

The first one, I want to know what Steams conversion is.

Okay, I'm 100% with you on that one. It would be nice.

[Matt from SUMY Corp]

引用自 ᴷᴬᴿᴿ：

引用自 YayitzMatt：

The first one, I want to know what Steams conversion is.

Aside from the wallet converting when the currency was converted as a one off thing, there is no conversion done.

The publisher says "this game needs to be 29.99 euro, 29.99 UK pounds, 49.99 us dollar and 54.99 canadian dollar" and that's what appears on the Store. Regardless what Valve thinks or does, it is up to each publisher to decide how they want to price their game in each currency. They can decide to put a 1:1 ratio or a 10:1 ratio, either way, it's not Valve doing it and there is no 'central conversion rate' used anywhere.

Then an individual conversion for each game on each store page would be nice. Enhanced Steam has something like it right now, but as far as I know it only works in-browser.

[Satoru]

1) Games are not subject to a 'currency conversion' ratio. Ergo there is no rate to 'publish'

2) Games on Steam are converted via Steam's own internal system. Where by a publisher/dev puts in a USD price. And then Steam converts it to CAD via their own internal pricing mechanism. This currently is 'fairly' close to the USD/CAD conversion but that's only by fluke. Currently a 19.99USD game 'converts' to 21.99 CAD. ANd that rate is STATIC within Steam's pricing model.

3) Publishers may in fact set different prices separate from Steam's internal pricing model. Note that some games are price far lower, BOrderlands Pre Sequel, some aer priced higher, NBA2K15

4) Steam Wallet cards in USD will likely be phased out and replaced with CAD cards. Ergo the only place where the conversion actually matters, will no longer exist soon. SO even in this scenario it's more or less useless. And don't try to pretend that you're playing the foriegn exchange rate game with $20 CAD....

[Matt from SUMY Corp]

引用自 Satoru：

1) Games are not subject to a 'currency conversion' ratio. Ergo there is no rate to 'publish'

2) Games on Steam are converted via Steam's own internal system. Where by a publisher/dev puts in a USD price. And then Steam converts it to CAD via their own internal pricing mechanism.

3) Publishers may in fact set different prices separate from Steam's internal pricing model.

First off, your first and second points contradict each other. 'Not subject to currency conversion' -> converted via steams own internal system.

What?

And for your third point, try reading other posts before posting useless things. I'm already aware some games have seperate individual conversions which is why I pointed out that having an individual conversion widget on each store page is another possibility, as seen in the Enhanced Steam for the brower store.

[Satoru]

引用自 YayitzMatt：

First off, your first and second points contradict each other. 'Not subject to currency conversion' -> converted via steams own internal system.

What?

The prices on steam are not dependent on the global exchange rate. Which means there is no rate to 'publish'.

And for your third point, try reading other posts before posting useless things. I'm already aware some games have seperate individual conversions which is why I pointed out that having an individual conversion widget on each store page is another possibility, as seen in the Enhanced Steam for the brower store.

From steam's perspective there's no pratcial need to do this. You can't pay in USD. Any more than I can't pay in Russian Rubles. Why should Setam show you a price that is 100% irrelevant to you. Any more thatn if you walked into a dealership and the post had the car prices in CAD and USD. It's not relevant since you cant buy the game with whatever the price is in USD in America. Or if it was listed in Euros. That informatino has no relevance.

If you want to price compare, use a site that has price comparision tools. But Steam is a store. And showing you pricing differentials between different regions, that you are incapable of purchasing at anyway, makes no sense for them to do.

[anon_amos]

引用自 Satoru：

引用自 YayitzMatt：

First off, your first and second points contradict each other. 'Not subject to currency conversion' -> converted via steams own internal system.

What?

The prices on steam are not dependent on the global exchange rate. Which means there is no rate to 'publish'.

And for your third point, try reading other posts before posting useless things. I'm already aware some games have seperate individual conversions which is why I pointed out that having an individual conversion widget on each store page is another possibility, as seen in the Enhanced Steam for the brower store.

From steam's perspective there's no pratcial need to do this. You can't pay in USD. Any more than I can't pay in Russian Rubles. Why should Setam show you a price that is 100% irrelevant to you. Any more thatn if you walked into a dealership and the post had the car prices in CAD and USD. It's not relevant since you cant buy the game with whatever the price is in USD in America. Or if it was listed in Euros. That informatino has no relevance.

If you want to price compare, use a site that has price comparision tools. But Steam is a store. And showing you pricing differentials between different regions, that you are incapable of purchasing at anyway, makes no sense for them to do.

I am beginning to think that Satoru is a Steam/Valve employee. They are in every thread re: CAD pricing, singing the praises about how great it is that we can now pay in CAD, saying that we are not getting screwed over.

We are certainly not ahead. Pricing is all over the place. A very few products we gain. A whole lot, we are paying way more than if we paid USD and let the CC company charge us exchange. Hell, there are even a few where we have no option to buy as no price has been set for CAD. There was no issue before Oct. 7 where I could actually buy the product and pay in USD but now I am left with no option.

GOG has regional pricing, but still allows you to pay USD and have the conversion done at purchase if you like. You can change your currency anytime you wish. Why can't Steam offer this same option?

I am slowly burning off what is left in my wallet and will be making my purchases elsewhere, where they actually value their customers and treat me fairly. Steam no longer values their customers as all the recent changes have shown.

[Issac Brock]

引用自 Satoru：

引用自 YayitzMatt：

First off, your first and second points contradict each other. 'Not subject to currency conversion' -> converted via steams own internal system.

What?

The prices on steam are not dependent on the global exchange rate. Which means there is no rate to 'publish'.

And for your third point, try reading other posts before posting useless things. I'm already aware some games have seperate individual conversions which is why I pointed out that having an individual conversion widget on each store page is another possibility, as seen in the Enhanced Steam for the brower store.

From steam's perspective there's no pratcial need to do this. You can't pay in USD. Any more than I can't pay in Russian Rubles. Why should Setam show you a price that is 100% irrelevant to you. Any more thatn if you walked into a dealership and the post had the car prices in CAD and USD. It's not relevant since you cant buy the game with whatever the price is in USD in America. Or if it was listed in Euros. That informatino has no relevance.

If you want to price compare, use a site that has price comparision tools. But Steam is a store. And showing you pricing differentials between different regions, that you are incapable of purchasing at anyway, makes no sense for them to do.

Considering that just a few days ago payments were made in USD I would say it has relevance. It would be nice to know if the markup is moderate or a rip off. If the currency exchange rate For example if the USD to CAD exchange rate was 1.12 and the markup was 1.15 you would figure that to be moderate but if the exchange rate is 1.12 and the markup is 1.30 then there is no excuse except a money grab. At which point the consumer would be alerted to shop around for a better deal.

I'm guessing steam won't ever publish such information because it would reflect poorly on them.

[Issac Brock]

引用自 anon_amos：

I am slowly burning off what is left in my wallet and will be making my purchases elsewhere, where they actually value their customers and treat me fairly. Steam no longer values their customers as all the recent changes have shown.

Me too, I'm down to 24 cents and have not made a purchase from steam in months. This only enforces my resolve to buy elsewhere. My new motto is "anwhere but steam".

[Satoru]

引用自 Issac Brock：

Considering that just a few days ago payments were made in USD I would say it has relevance. It would be nice to know if the markup is moderate or a rip off.

Note this is only relevant via the Steam Wallet conversion, which again will be deprecated soon for native CAD Wallet cards. For Steam Wallet conversions the rate has always been extremely close to the market rate as to effectively be a rounding error.

I'm guessing steam won't ever publish such information because it would reflect poorly on them.

Again you can look right now $19.99 USD converts to $21.99 CAD. You can easily compare with other products. $14.99 converts to 16.99 CAD. That conversion is STATIC. in that it wont fluctuate with the exchange rate. If a dev sets a $14.99 USD price, you will be paying $16.99 CAD. You'll note this 'conversion' has not fluctuated with the actual USD/CAD exchange rate.

The STORE PRICES on Steam aren't going to fluctuate wildly with the currency. jJust liek prices on Steam don't fluctuate vs the Euro/GBP/Rubles/etc.Thus the idea of posting a 'conversion' is more or less meaningless. There isn't some guy in the steam store frantically reindexing prices on a dailyl basis.

[vespers_]

So when I walk into a store here in Canada I pay $59.99 CAD for my game. Now I need to pay $66.97 CAD for the privilege of buying it on Steam. Good luck with that. The fact is the games should still be 59.99 whether they are priced in CAD or not so Steam can ♥♥♥♥ right off.

Hahaha.