Option to Filter out Indie games.

[Kevin the Inkling]

Do not take this the wrong way. I do enjoy and support indie games. However One of Steam's double edged swords would be it's abundence of Indie games.

Some Indie games are really really amazing. Some are terrible. Etc. However I do like to see what's aviable for purely professionally created games every now and then. Old or new.

The problem is there's so many Indie games that for some reason try to apply to every Genre that they're harder to find then the one Honest guy at a Car Dealership that has your best intrest in mind for real.

I've tried to simply select every filter option except Indie. But almost nothing but Pages upon Pages of Indie games. Then I try doing the reverse on the offchance I misunderstood the filter system for searching for games. Then I got entirely nothing but Indie games.

I do buy and play Indie games. But having them shoved down my throat kinda devolps an resentment towards the Indie Genre as a whole that otherwise wouldn't exist.

I humbly ask to have an option to filter out Indie games when your looking for new games to pick up as an option.

I don't see why this isn't an feature already. This is frustrating.

[DyingJedi]

+!

[WhiteKnight77]

So you would be happy only seeing one or 2 new games a month? Last year, Electronic Arts only released 11 new games over the year. That is less than 1 a month and not one of them were released on Steam IIRC. Other publishers are not releasing as many games as they once were either.

Also, that would remove Valve's games from what you see due to Valve being an indie developer. That would not happen.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

Also, that would remove Valve's games from what you see due to Valve being an indie developer. That would not happen.

Well you're right that Valve's games getting filtered out as indie wouldn't happen. Because their games aren't tagged as indie. Because "the largest online PC game distribution company" is not what people generally mean by indie, I imagine.

[ApatheticExcuse]

I was about to post and say that I agree, but then I realized most of my favorite games are indy and that my issue is more with there being no actual guidelines as to what seems to be acceptable in Early Access, the birthplace (and usually resting place) of pretty much every ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game I've been suckered into owning.

[K.S]

I am just posting to complete my badge collection

[ZeroKami]

Unfortunately for good indie games they share a tag with soooooo much shovelware, indie games are apparently in right now so everyone and their brother is making one to put up on Steam.
@ApatheticExcuse brings up a good point about the Early Access too, people see Early Access and think they are buying into an early release of the nearly complete game, when often they are being suckered into purchasing Alpha/Beta tests - these traps are usually set by indie game developers, and no not the good ones.

[SuperDuper]

+1

[DyingJedi]

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

So you would be happy only seeing one or 2 new games a month? Last year, Electronic Arts only released 11 new games over the year. That is less than 1 a month and not one of them were released on Steam IIRC. Other publishers are not releasing as many games as they once were either.

Also, that would remove Valve's games from what you see due to Valve being an indie developer. That would not happen.

He not asking to get rid of the Indie Games. all this is about it to add a filter to the search, to sort out just like pressing the lowest price button then you can see thirty pages of lowered prices of indie game, never making it to known Brands are harder to reach, which of course would be frustrating for them publishers too knowing that there content is harder to get too through the fields and fields of growing greenlight indie games. Just a simple filter is what's requested here.

I think you understand now. Hi5 guys for your input!

Originally posted by K.S:

I am just posting to complete my badge collection

Dude you own two free games and your posting in the community to get your community badge to look more official makes me more suspicious because both the games you own are free and makes me think you may be a bot account or maybe your simply a twink account which is cool if its the last one.

Justin Cram
DyingJedi

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

Also, that would remove Valve's games from what you see due to Valve being an indie developer. That would not happen.

Well you're right that Valve's games getting filtered out as indie wouldn't happen. Because their games aren't tagged as indie. Because "the largest online PC game distribution company" is not what people generally mean by indie, I imagine.

I look at an indie development studio as one who creates and self publishes their games. That is exactly what Valve does. And yes, you are right, they do happen to own the largest digital distribution system for PC games. They are an indie company that happens to make AAA games, which is not unheard of.

[Strygald]

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

So you would be happy only seeing one or 2 new games a month? Last year, Electronic Arts only released 11 new games over the year. That is less than 1 a month and not one of them were released on Steam IIRC. Other publishers are not releasing as many games as they once were either.

Also, that would remove Valve's games from what you see due to Valve being an indie developer. That would not happen.

He isn't asking for Indie games to be abolished from the store, he just wants more control over what products show up on HIS storepage when he wants them to show up - seriously, you don't need to get all up in arms and respond EVERY SINGLE TIME someone makes a thread about not wanting to see indie or early access whenever they start-up Steam(which is every day for many customers).

[Kevin the Inkling]

Okay you guys misunderstood.

As I explained. I do not hate Indie games. I mentioned I do support and buy Indie games.

But I do wish to not have nothing but "Shovel ware" Shoved in my face when I'm searching for non indie games to look into for consideration. Old or new.

I don't care if it's from 2005 if I haven't played it, don't own it already, it's still new to me. And some old games can be awesome.

To put it in perspective. Ever get an dense Real estate Agent or Car Salesman who doesn't listen to you?

You know the Real estate agent who heard you tell them "I am not interested in a Ranch style so don't bother with them." And said agent shows you nothing but Ranch style houses.

Or that Car dealer who ignores you telling him "I want something to tow my Camper." And he shows you all tiny small cars unfit for towing a utility trailer.


That's what it feels like not having the ability to filter out search options such as Indie games. When I wanna look into third person shooters I do not wanna see Call of Duty or Dark Souls or racing games.

When I search for Adventure games I do not wanna see RTS and puzzle games.

You get my point.

If I wasn't being bogged down by the same Indie games I am not interested in. etc. Odds are I'd purchase games more often.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:

I look at an indie development studio as one who creates and self publishes their games. That is exactly what Valve does.

It is. It's also what EA and Ubisoft etc do. These are indie developers, then. And, presumably, if what Valve does is considered publishing (which is fine with me), then some two-man dev team working off scraps who get their first game project through Greenlight and sell it on Steam are not indie, because Valve are publishing their game?

It doesn't matter. You can have whatever definition you like, obviously. You should know that the Steam Store doesn't operate on your personal definitions of things, that's all. Valve games will not be filtered out as indie.

Anyway. I agree with the general suggestion of letting people filter things out of the store. At the very least let them exclude tags as well as narrow by tags on search pages and browse-by-tag pages.

[supertrooper225]

It doesn't really matter what you like or don't like. A store is not going to let you hide a significant portion of their stock from the store page. It will not happen. I can understand why you would want that....but hiding your stock from customers view is not a wise move as a store.

[Gus the Crocodile]

The store hides significant portions of their stock every time you click a category. Click Racing and it stops showing you all games that aren't tagged as racing. What an unwise move of them, to let customers narrow down their view to things they're most interested in.

[supertrooper225]

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:

The store hides significant portions of their stock every time you click a category. Click Racing and it stops showing you all games that aren't tagged as racing. What an unwise move of them, to let customers narrow down their view to things they're most interested in.

Specifying by genre is organization. Hiding entire genres or whatever you want to call it from a customers view....is just not wise from a business standpoint. They would rather the content be in view in case one day your mind is changed by some freakishly awesome project. Not likely? Maybe...but better than 0 chance. They won't let you hide stuff from the store page forever. I am not trying to make fun or argue with anybody....but that is business. If you are having trouble finding a game to play....there are an untold number of other sites that can tell you what is out and what will be out in the future.

Plus. If we can organize by genre already....we are good. I do not see what is so difficult about navigating the store. But that is just me.