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A recent interview with the President of the Canadian retailers association was enlightening. She said the CDN retailers were pissed with US (and US distributers of foreign made stuff) wholesale prices to Canada that were WAY higher than could be explained by exchange, shipping (not relavent to digital distribution). When asked why they priced so high - "because they can".
They control the products people want and the various wholesalers are complicit in their pricing strategies for Canada. Great examples can be found by comparing same products on Amazon.ca and Amazon.com. CDN markups of 50 percent (sometimes 100 percent) are common. Plus shipping is more expensive. Unlike Amazon, Steam has made it impossible to check US pricing without using a region hiding service and setting up a new US account.
So over time I think you will find differential pricing for Steam games for Canadians which in a year or two will be significantly larger than just the exchange rate. There is really no other reason to make this change.
Your extensive and continuous support of this (vs almost universal negativity from Canadians) shows that either 1) you work for Steam/Valve or a US video game company or 2) again, you are not a Canadian otherwise you would understand how many times we are screwed on these pricing issues. And PS: we are NOT wealthier than the US!
Bingo. See, some of us can read that writing on the wall.
Well since he isnt affected by the change, and seems to have hundreds of comments in each thread, I thought he worked for Valve.
I find it hard to understand how someone can be so involved in defending a change which does not affect them - but which does affect many others. I also found the lack of honesty and candour to be discouraging, as though unable to ackowledge that this change was made for the SOLE REASON of being able to squeeze Canadians for more money, if not now, in the future.
And whether I do or not is not relevant to the facts of the matter. And is not relevant to my arguments or the data pricing that currently exists.
If you're going to continue with ad hominem attacks to support your position, then perhaps you may consider your position to be far more tenuous than you imagine.
Again the idea that the change is utterly catastrophic to Canadians isn't borne out by the actual prices. Most titles, as shown in the top 20, are cheaper in CAD. Items that are more expensive have only a minimal price increase.
So you're not being squeezed out of money right now. If you're referring to some nebulous future, then I can argue that as the CAD goes down, that your pricing differential will in fact improve. Both scenarios are equally as likely. Thus to assert that changes 'sole reason' is to 'squeeze canadians for more money' is currently not happening, and there is a reasonable scenario in the future where that also is not the case.
The 'currency change is to squeeze more money out of Canadians' argument also falls flat on its face when you consider Australia and New Zeland. Regions that are getting kicked in the nuts in pricing on Steam, but use USD to do it. If, as you assert, the currency change is to 'increase prices', publishers can do that, right now, in USD. And there are 2 countries, right nwo, where it is happening. Ergo, the idea that publishers 'forced' the currency change to do this, is absurd. They don't need to do that if they just want to raise prices. They can do it unilaterally on Steam with USD. So even this argument is basically 100% false.
What you are doing is simply imposing a 'single' scenario and extrapolating it as fact. When again, the current situation doesn't actually reflect the 'doomsday' scenario you're describing nor is the future scenario any more or less likely than the one I put forth. And you can't bring up the edge cases like NBA2K15 and use that as a sign of the coming apocoalypse while also ignoring the other side of those edge caes like Borderlands The PreSequel.
Aside from the extreme tail ends of the spectrum (both expensive and cheap), the change to CAD is overall a net positive for Canadians in terms of fairly moderate savings of 1-2%, even if you don't take into account the 1-3% foreing transaction fees. And even the deviations from that are actually fairly small on the high end, with NBA2K15/FarCry4 being 5% more expensive in CAD, but on the discount side thre are much larger benefits of around 10% for various titles like CivBE/Borderlands.
If you're going to scream and shout at least look at the pricing structure as a whole, rather than cherry picking 3 games on the high end and extrapolating the apocalypse. At least the "I hate the change because comparing prices on the market is more annoying" as a far more legitiamte complaint that 'we are getting robbed' which realistically isn't the case for the vast majority of games on Seteam after the conversion.
If you look at the pricing objectively, the change doesn't shake up the landscape that much from a pricing perspective. And certainly doesn't even come close to how pricing jumped dramatically with the introduction of GBP/Euros back in teh day.
Russia Brazil and the new South East Asia currencies would love to talk with you about that. Since prices in those regions decreased when the currencies were introduced.
Lets also consider that the poster child for regional pricing, Australia, has their games, priced in USD higher than in other regions. Thus the argument falls on its face because IT IS NOT NECESSARY to convert the currencies to do what you suppose is the end game. Publishers can do it right now without having to 'force' steam to convert currencies.
As I have a US$ account created specifically for internet purchases, I am not please with this change. Steam should give us a choice to make the purchase in US or CDN$, not dictate.
If you coudl 'choose' everyone would choose Rubles
It doesn't change the fact that I am 90 precent sure that our prices will go up more than exchange rate within a year or two. Looking at the situation right now isn't relavent to the discussion as Steam/Valve are smart enough not to that into effect until all this commentary has died down.
Straight question Santoru - do you receive any finacial renumeration from Steam/valve or gaming company or it's paid PR or consultants?
First off, what exactly is wrong with that, if they did choose Rubles - seriously
Second, there was no ad hominem attack; I pointed out that you seem to be arguing from a disingenuous position where you would not accept the currency changes lay the groundwork for future changes; like increased pricing in the market or the collection of tax.
Whether or not prices are significantly higher now is not the issue; the issue is where prices are going, and why the status quo was not good enough.
Um... are you just ignoring the exchange rate?
14.99 USD = 16.7446 CAD
You're paying 16.99 CAD instead of 16.7446 CAD. That's an increase of about 1.5%. Some games are actually cheaper.
Like I said, be wary. Watch the exchange rate and compare the price of games in both currencies. And yes, watch out for greedy publishers.
But don't make things up. The vast majority of the time, right now, you're *not* paying 10% more, not even close.
Correct.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/65980/?cc=au
CivBE is priced at $49.99USD. its 89.99USD in Australia/NZ. There are many other titles that are priced like that but it's basically 'any title that has a retail release'. Shadow of Mordor is another but there's plenty you can look at on the AU/NZ store.
It also does this in Europe. There is in fact 2 Euro 'tiers' of pricing. So a game, in Euros, will have 2 separate prices depending if you're in France or Spain.
https://steamdb.info/app/730/
This has existed for several years.
So it's not reasonable to attribute the currency conversion as a pretense to increasing prices. Since steam already has that capability, and can still maintain the existing currency.
But again there's the flip side to that where as the CAD drops, but the 'absolute' price remains the same your pricing differential improves. Steam isn't a stock exchange where it shifts pricing on a daily basis. If the CAD drops 5% steam isn't going to immediately start re-pricing everything to compensate. The store simply doesn't work that way. So again you can have both sides of that coin. Even highly traded items like CS:GO keys are only adjusted infrequently. Even the price of CS:GO the game hasn't changed I believe from it's release in 2012, despite fluctuations in GBP and Euros.
Bit of a loaded question isnt it?
Yes in fact my big fat check is due any day now once I hit 10000 posts. So keep complaining otherwise i can't make my boat payment this month for my vacation in Dubai! This stuff doesn't pay for itself you know.
Does it really matter what my answer is, given that you're already making the assumption?
Note that the 14.99USD price point is only one of a few points I'm aware of where the CAD conversion is not in your favor (6.99/8.99 are the other but teh % difference is 0.2%). All other price points that use the Steam standard conversion are priced 1-2% lower than their USD price.