Built-In System Requirement Checker for Steam Client

[PhantomFury22]

Since Steam usually has all the needed details for Minimum and Recommended System Requirements anyway, as well as access to the computer through the client, I thought it might be noteworthy to have a button on the game store/library that allows you to run a System Requirement check on your computer to show if you can run it, and if you can't, what systems are insufficient. Currently, the service is provided by third-party companies like systemrequirementslab.com and not everyone is inclined to trust them.

[Boblin the Goblin]

The system requirements are manually filled out by the developer.

The system requirements also aren't a guarantee of anything.

[Pscht]

Built-in method to FORCE PEOPLE TO USE FORUM SEARCH

All I want for Christmas is [title]

[Supafly]

Not going to happen. for a start you'd need every company to agree as to what minimum and recommended requirements actually mean. Right now minimum could mean

720p low settings 30 fps with dips
720p low settings 30 fps
720p low settings 60 fps with dips
720p low settings 60 fps
720p med settings 30 fps with dips
720p med settings 30 fps
720p med settings 60 fps with dips
720p med settings 60 fps
720p high settings 30 fps with dips
720p high settings 30 fps
720p high settings 60 fps with dips
720p high settings 60 fps
1080p low settings 30 fps with dips
1080p low settings 30 fps
1080p low settings 60 fps with dips
1080p low settings 60 fps
1080p med settings 30 fps with dips
1080p med settings 30 fps
1080p med settings 60 fps with dips
1080p med settings 60 fps

Or anycombination not mentioned above. As requirements = God knows what how is any system going to identify if it will run and how well?

All that site does is tell you if each of your components match what a games requirements list. If Valve did that they'd get grief from users when they buy a game that Steam showed they could run but it runs at 720p low settings 30 fps with dips when they meet the minimum where as the last ga,me they bought got 1080p low settings 30 fps with dips.

Had these 2 for my nephew. Had your hardware to one side and the games requirement to the other. Stick to comparing Nvidia GPU to Nvidia GPU, AMD GPU to AMD GPU, Intel CPU to Intel CPU, AMD CPU to AMD CPU. that way you shouldn't get any cross brand biases

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3649vs3649

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/3955vs3955

Originally posted by Pscht:

Built-in method to FORCE PEOPLE TO USE FORUM SEARCH

All I want for Christmas is [title]

Been suggested many times, including me years ago

[nullable]

Originally posted by PhantomFury22:

Currently, the service is provided by third-party companies like systemrequirementslab.com and not everyone is inclined to trust them.

Because no one really likes using a tool that's mostly right, most of the time, because sometimes its wrong. And people aren't happy when they feel like they were given bad info.

The biggest problem is that a game's performance and minimum requirements aren't standardized. And the requirements themselves aren't standardized, in essence it's garbage data that deals in broad approximates. Yeah a human being can suss the gist out of them, but it may be a bit trickier for an application to take that mess, do a couple of beep boops, and come out with accurate and trustworthy results for any and all users.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by PhantomFury22:

Currently, the service is provided by third-party companies like systemrequirementslab.com and not everyone is inclined to trust them.

Because no one really likes using a tool that's mostly right, most of the time, because sometimes its wrong. And people aren't happy when they feel like they were given bad info.

And when its wrong it gets very expensive for Valve.
Think of it like 10K each time get it wrong and the system will be wrong.


OP let me put it this MICROSOFT can't do this with a acceptable accuracy and they are in a far better position that STeam can ever be since STeam relies on whatever the OS passes it. The OS on the other hand is directly interfaced with the hardware components.

There's a reasopn why NO STORE does this, and why the sites that do it are very careful not to have any links or affiliations to any store.

[Mad Scientist]

Such things only account for things essentially "on paper" and do not include everything a user does or has running including low memory or low disk space which can cause severe issues.

Steam really doesn't need to be an "everything" client, if you already know of a site that gives you estimates solely based upon general parts, keep using it.

[Nx Machina]

Liability - the fact that someone is legally responsible for something.

Hence why developers, publishers DO NOT commit to games running on your PC because they CANNOT test every possible PC config out there. They list min, rec specs to remove liabilty.

Valve cannot guarantee 3rd party games running on your PC because that would open them up to be sued by both the developer and the user, when said game does not.

Sites like "canyourunit" also do not commit to games running on your PC, they only give you a general idea.

Microsoft tried it within the OS and it failed hard so they removed it. The MIcrosoft store does not "guarantee" it will run on your PC with good performance as the results are very hit and miss.

The mantra is KNOW your PC and what it is capable of based on the current games you have.

[D3RP]

none of the excuses here claiming this would be impractical make any sense because it is already being done; therefore, clearly, IT CAN BE DONE

the other general excuse being given are variations on RTFM and UR A NOOB etc. which is an idiotic reason not to have features that make things more convenient. If you all had your way Steam would be entirely command line. Again, idiots.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by D3RP:

none of the excuses here claiming this would be impractical make any sense because it is already being done; therefore, clearly, IT CAN BE DONE

the other general excuse being given are variations on RTFM and UR A NOOB etc. which is an idiotic reason not to have features that make things more convenient. If you all had your way Steam would be entirely command line. Again, idiots.

You mean match your specs with the open text field where they can enter whatever they want?

Example...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/351450/Scribble_Space/

Sure. But Valve would have to force the devs to have requirements that are actual specific product names, targeted resolution and targeted FPS for said requirements first.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by D3RP:

none of the excuses here claiming this would be impractical make any sense because it is already being done; therefore, clearly, IT CAN BE DONE

the other general excuse being given are variations on RTFM and UR A NOOB etc. which is an idiotic reason not to have features that make things more convenient. If you all had your way Steam would be entirely command line. Again, idiots.

Reinventing a faulty wheel is something Valve is likely not interested in. Though you could do like the rest of the pc users and see if your system meets the requirements of a game on its store page, otherwise console may suit you better as you don't have to worry about that with the exception of exclusives/cross platform or backwards compatibility.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by D3RP:

none of the excuses here claiming this would be impractical make any sense because it is already being done; therefore, clearly, IT CAN BE DONE

the other general excuse being given are variations on RTFM and UR A NOOB etc. which is an idiotic reason not to have features that make things more convenient. If you all had your way Steam would be entirely command line. Again, idiots.

Look up how many GPUs, and CPUs, now combine them over & over until make all the possible combinations with RAM amount, and those that doing overclocking to get results, and screen resolution for target frame rate.

We're not talking like results of single or double digit combinations, we're talking in the thousands of possible combinations that in FOUR digit combinations, and you expect devs, or Steam to test over 100k+ games with over thousands of combinations???

[nullable]

Originally posted by D3RP:

none of the excuses here claiming this would be impractical make any sense because it is already being done; therefore, clearly, IT CAN BE DONE

the other general excuse being given are variations on RTFM and UR A NOOB etc. which is an idiotic reason not to have features that make things more convenient. If you all had your way Steam would be entirely command line. Again, idiots.

They may not make sense to you. That may not be a problem with the arguments.

But hey, if it's already being done, use that system/resource, problem solved. And you'll just have to be patient for universal adoption.

Of course if it's not as good as you claim or imagine, then it won't because more experienced people than you understand the realities you don't.

Also if you know about a thing that checks all the boxes, it would really help your argument to actually mention it by name or link to it. Just saying... I mean unless you have doubts...