games and launchers should be delisted and banned if they cant be played directly on steam, but still sell on steam

[Voltren Xytech]

i know, that title is confusing, im not talking launchers for stuff like MMORPGS or games that when you play it, it launches the launcher for updates then you play from there

im talking stuff like this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2215260/Scott_Pilgrim_vs_The_World_The_Game__Complete_Edition/

this game is 100% not on steam, yes its LISTED as being on steam, but if you buy the game and launch it, its just a quick command to launch Ubisoft Connect, and redeems the game purchase in their store front so you can only play it from there, YOU CAN NOT PLAY THIS GAME ON STEAM AT ALL

if i wanted it on Ubisoft Connect id have bought it from there, but no, its a scam... literally, no over exaggeration, this is legit a scam by making it seem like i could play this through steam, but you cant, and from what ive been told has the same problems other games that do this have

for instance you will have a ♥♥♥♥♥ of a time getting any game to properly work with a controller if its not being played through steam directly, you literally have to force close all steam functions to fix it

i want games i buy on steam to be playable through steam, i do not want them to be scams to send me to other store fronts, id even argue that this violates the whole forced advertisement to play rule steam has because with how Ubisoft works it will show ads before and after opening the games you own, i even have pictures showing this

https://x.com/IsolatedWatcher/status/1904020171309625443

[Simply]

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[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Voltren Xytech:

games and launchers should be delisted and banned if they cant be played directly on steam, but still sell on steam

i know, that title is confusing, im not talking launchers for stuff like MMORPGS or games that when you play it, it launches the launcher for updates then you play from there

im talking stuff like this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2215260/Scott_Pilgrim_vs_The_World_The_Game__Complete_Edition/

this game is 100% not on steam, yes its LISTED as being on steam, but if you buy the game and launch it, its just a quick command to launch Ubisoft Connect, and redeems the game purchase in their store front so you can only play it from there, YOU CAN NOT PLAY THIS GAME ON STEAM AT ALL

if i wanted it on Ubisoft Connect id have bought it from there, but no, its a scam... literally, no over exaggeration, this is legit a scam by making it seem like i could play this through steam, but you cant, and from what ive been told has the same problems other games that do this have

for instance you will have a ♥♥♥♥♥ of a time getting any game to properly work with a controller if its not being played through steam directly, you literally have to force close all steam functions to fix it

i want games i buy on steam to be playable through steam, i do not want them to be scams to send me to other store fronts, id even argue that this violates the whole forced advertisement to play rule steam has because with how Ubisoft works it will show ads before and after opening the games you own, i even have pictures showing this

https://x.com/IsolatedWatcher/status/1904020171309625443

Valve isn't going to ban launchers.

[MonkehMaster]

wish they would do "something" about them, all most are used for is advertising and bypassing steam.

majority of them also cause game issues as well, then people have to fix it themselves so they can play, or wait for possible fixes, or no fixes and poor support.

[Tito Shivan]

If the comeback of EA games, bundled with the EA launcher, topping Steam the top seller lists for weeks told something is people at large don't really make much of a fuss about additional launchers.
This is one of those issues where wallets speak louder than words.

We've already been at where games with third party launchers were only in their respective platforms, and that road brought us where we are.

[76561198407601200]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Voltren Xytech:

i know, that title is confusing, im not talking launchers for stuff like MMORPGS or games that when you play it, it launches the launcher for updates then you play from there

im talking stuff like this:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2215260/Scott_Pilgrim_vs_The_World_The_Game__Complete_Edition/

this game is 100% not on steam, yes its LISTED as being on steam, but if you buy the game and launch it, its just a quick command to launch Ubisoft Connect, and redeems the game purchase in their store front so you can only play it from there, YOU CAN NOT PLAY THIS GAME ON STEAM AT ALL

if i wanted it on Ubisoft Connect id have bought it from there, but no, its a scam... literally, no over exaggeration, this is legit a scam by making it seem like i could play this through steam, but you cant, and from what ive been told has the same problems other games that do this have

for instance you will have a ♥♥♥♥♥ of a time getting any game to properly work with a controller if its not being played through steam directly, you literally have to force close all steam functions to fix it

i want games i buy on steam to be playable through steam, i do not want them to be scams to send me to other store fronts, id even argue that this violates the whole forced advertisement to play rule steam has because with how Ubisoft works it will show ads before and after opening the games you own, i even have pictures showing this

{LENKE FJERNET}https://x.com/IsolatedWatcher/status/1904020171309625443

On the right-hand side

Requires 3rd-Party Account: Ubisoft Connect Account

A layman would read that and ask "Wonder what that is", does a quick google search and sees it takes them to ubisoft's, not valve/steam's, website. This would then imply I would have to do something with ubisoft, not valve/steam, and in that case would make the choice of getting it or not.

[John Henry Eden]

if a game has a launcher, its 100000% times better to use their launcher to buy the game and download it, steam sometimes like to be the middle man for no reason

[Zarineth]

My counter suggestion is: don't buy things you don't like and let others buy whatever they want. That makes everyone happy, instead of appealing to ego of few.

[John Henry Eden]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

My counter suggestion is: don't buy things you don't like and let others buy whatever they want. That makes everyone happy, instead of appealing to ego of few.

just dont buy on steam, since they have the ability to "un-buy" your purchase

[MonkehMaster]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

My counter suggestion is: don't buy things you don't like and let others buy whatever they want. That makes everyone happy, instead of appealing to ego of few.

we are buying games, not launchers... and saying "don't buy it" is a failed argument.

so... we don't buy, company loses money... possibly shuts down, where we go from there?

sounds like ego is being misplaced.

[Ben Lubar]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Stevanator:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

My counter suggestion is: don't buy things you don't like and let others buy whatever they want. That makes everyone happy, instead of appealing to ego of few.

just dont buy on steam, since they have the ability to "un-buy" your purchase

it's called a refund and you can request it from Steam Support

[Zarineth]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MonkehMaster:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

My counter suggestion is: don't buy things you don't like and let others buy whatever they want. That makes everyone happy, instead of appealing to ego of few.

we are buying games, not launchers... and saying "don't buy it" is a failed argument.

so... we don't buy, company loses money... possibly shuts down, where we go from there?

sounds like ego is being misplaced.

So you want people to instead buy it somewhere else? Which they might not want to do.

Company loses money and possibly shuts down.

How is that better?

People already have ability to buy things directly fr devs. Asking for rempving a CHOICE to buy here instead (becauuse that what will happen with "banning") is helping no one.

[MonkehMaster]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MonkehMaster:

we are buying games, not launchers... and saying "don't buy it" is a failed argument.

so... we don't buy, company loses money... possibly shuts down, where we go from there?

sounds like ego is being misplaced.

So you want people to instead buy it somewhere else? Which they might not want to do.

Company loses money and possibly shuts down.

How is that better?

sorry, I'm not following, your reply doesn't correspond to what I wrote, you may have misunderstood...

you said don't buy, I said if they don't buy, the company loses money...

thus failed argument, cause evidence shows that argument has lead to companies losing money and closing/splitting/or selling off.

[Princess Luna]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MonkehMaster:

so... we don't buy, company loses money... possibly shuts down, where we go from there?

I dont see a problem - if people stop buying bugged Ubisoft an EA games they will make better games or go bankrupt.
Is that bad?

[MonkehMaster]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Princess Luna:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MonkehMaster:

so... we don't buy, company loses money... possibly shuts down, where we go from there?

I dont see a problem - if people stop buying bugged Ubisoft an EA games they will make better games or go bankrupt.
Is that bad?

nope, it's great.

would love to get back to good quality games, with zero nonsense (encompassing a lot).

I was just pointing out the flaw in the the statement, cause some like using that as a "don't complain, you don't have to buy", while not understanding what that entails.

take some of the game companies who said that, or Disney... look where it got them lol.

[Zarineth]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MonkehMaster:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zarineth:

So you want people to instead buy it somewhere else? Which they might not want to do.

Company loses money and possibly shuts down.

How is that better?

sorry, I'm not following, your reply doesn't correspond to what I wrote, you may have misunderstood...

you said don't buy, I said if they don't buy, the company loses money...

thus failed argument, cause evidence shows that argument has lead to companies losing money and closing/splitting/or selling off.

I mean, if you want to argue just for the sake of arguing, it's alright.

At least I learned something from this interaction.