Download during gameplay: smart option

[Kate Hanami]

simply put, give an "smart" option that will download / update games in a disk which is not being used
most people have multiple disks nowadays, if I'm playing a game installed on C, it should be perfectly fine to update a game installed on D and vice versa

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Download during gameplay: smart option

simply put, give an "smart" option that will download / update games in a disk which is not being used
most people have multiple disks nowadays, if I'm playing a game installed on C, it should be perfectly fine to update a game installed on D and vice versa

You do choose which drive you want the download on, right?

This doesn't even take into account what it is doing to your CPU though.

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Download during gameplay: smart option

simply put, give an "smart" option that will download / update games in a disk which is not being used
most people have multiple disks nowadays, if I'm playing a game installed on C, it should be perfectly fine to update a game installed on D and vice versa

You do choose which drive you want the download on, right?

This doesn't even take into account what it is doing to your CPU though.

:nkCool:

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span a tad bit instead of no update at all or update regardless if it's being used by something else

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You do choose which drive you want the download on, right?

This doesn't even take into account what it is doing to your CPU though.

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span a tad bit instead of no update at all or update regardless if it's being used by something else

Wouldn't it be simpler to make that HDD the default instead?

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span a tad bit instead of no update at all or update regardless if it's being used by something else

Wouldn't it be simpler to make that HDD the default instead?

:nkCool:

I said most people have multiple disk, some people have 200gb SSDs for the C drive which is enough for a couple of games, there we could play some small indie game installed on C while we way for the latest cod or whatever download it's 400gb hd textures on a mechanical HDD with 6 TB rather than doing it only when no game is being played

[nullable]

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span a tad bit instead of no update at all or update regardless if it's being used by something else

There is literally no value in trying to figure out ways to not use a SSD. The "lifespan" is not a concern. If you sit down and do the math, you will see it would take decades to wear out most SSDs in most scenarios. "Lifespan" only become a concern in the short term if you're filling drive up completely as fast as possible. In which case imagining Valve should try to mitigate that inconsequentially by trying to micromanage SSD usage is more than silly.

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Wouldn't it be simpler to make that HDD the default instead?

:nkCool:

I said most people have multiple disk, some people have 200gb SSDs for the C drive which is enough for a couple of games, there we could play some small indie game installed on C while we way for the latest cod or whatever download it's 400gb hd textures on a mechanical HDD with 6 TB rather than doing it only when no game is being played

If you want to use a secondary drive or HDD for updates, make that drive the install location for Steam and put a SteamLibrary folder on your primary drive. Nothing wrong with doing that.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Wouldn't it be simpler to make that HDD the default instead?

I said most people have multiple disk, some people have 200gb SSDs for the C drive which is enough for a couple of games, there we could play some small indie game installed on C while we way for the latest cod or whatever download it's 400gb hd textures on a mechanical HDD with 6 TB rather than doing it only when no game is being played

Why did you install all the DLCs for the CoD HQ?

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di nullable:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span a tad bit instead of no update at all or update regardless if it's being used by something else

There is literally no value in trying to figure out ways to not use a SSD. The "lifespan" is not a concern. If you sit down and do the math, you will see it would take decades to wear out most SSDs in most scenarios. "Lifespan" only become a concern in the short term if you're filling drive up completely as fast as possible. In which case imagining Valve should try to mitigate that inconsequentially by trying to micromanage SSD usage is more than silly.

I literaly said mechanical disks

Messaggio originale di nullable:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

I said most people have multiple disk, some people have 200gb SSDs for the C drive which is enough for a couple of games, there we could play some small indie game installed on C while we way for the latest cod or whatever download it's 400gb hd textures on a mechanical HDD with 6 TB rather than doing it only when no game is being played

If you want to use a secondary drive or HDD for updates, make that drive the install location for Steam and put a SteamLibrary folder on your primary drive. Nothing wrong with doing that.

yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing and EXACTLY the reason for this post

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

I said most people have multiple disk, some people have 200gb SSDs for the C drive which is enough for a couple of games, there we could play some small indie game installed on C while we way for the latest cod or whatever download it's 400gb hd textures on a mechanical HDD with 6 TB rather than doing it only when no game is being played

Why did you install all the DLCs for the CoD HQ?

:nkDaze:

I have to remember I need to explain to people on the internet what a random example is
THIS IS A RANDOM EXAMPLE
with bloated file sized for AAA games, give me some QoL feature that let me play a small indie game while the huge game is downloading in another disk without degrading the performance for either

[nullable]

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Messaggio originale di nullable:

There is literally no value in trying to figure out ways to not use a SSD. The "lifespan" is not a concern. If you sit down and do the math, you will see it would take decades to wear out most SSDs in most scenarios. "Lifespan" only become a concern in the short term if you're filling drive up completely as fast as possible. In which case imagining Valve should try to mitigate that inconsequentially by trying to micromanage SSD usage is more than silly.

I literaly said mechanical disks

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span

"it's" in this case would be "solid storage media" which I think you intended to say SSD but wanted look technical or something.

If you're fussing over HDD lifespan, your language is sloppy. If not, then maybe keep your arguments straight.

Regardless of SSD or HDD making bogus arguments about lifespan isn't a very good argument for the feature you want.

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

Messaggio originale di nullable:

If you want to use a secondary drive or HDD for updates, make that drive the install location for Steam and put a SteamLibrary folder on your primary drive. Nothing wrong with doing that.

yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing and EXACTLY the reason for this post

Ok I think I see, you think running a game installed on a C: is so disk intensive you should shuffle work off to disk D: or vice versa. I'm not sure why you think that exactly. Again the biggest issue is going to be CPU usage as uncompresssing data is going to have more of an impact.

I'm just having trouble seeing what you think your disk drive hokey pokey gets you. SSDs have more than enough performance to run a game, windows and download at the same time. And HDDs performance is just crummy and no amount of hand waving or optimizing will change that. Your feature wouldn't hurt anything. But if it's just a placebo, then not sure why Valve would do it.

Do you have any data about the performance impacts of downloading updates while playing a game on the same drive? Are you sure it's really worth the fuss?

Kinda seems like your imagine run amok a little bit. Although to be fair I haven't bought an HDD sin 12 years so I'm a bit spoiled by not having to fuss over disk performance.

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di nullable:

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

I literaly said mechanical disks

it's more so gear for mechanical disks, they have larger storage for cheaper than modern solid storage media and that could save it's life-span

"it's" in this case would be "solid storage media" which I think you intended to say SSD but wanted look technical or something.

If you're fussing over HDD lifespan, your language is sloppy. If not, then maybe keep your arguments straight.

Regardless of SSD or HDD making bogus arguments about lifespan isn't a very good argument for the feature you want.

Messaggio originale di Kate Hanami:

yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing and EXACTLY the reason for this post

Ok I think I see, you think running a game installed on a C: is so disk intensive you should shuffle work off to disk D: or vice versa. I'm not sure why you think that exactly. Again the biggest issue is going to be CPU usage as uncompresssing data is going to have more of an impact.

I'm just having trouble seeing what you think your disk drive hokey pokey gets you. SSDs have more than enough performance to run a game, windows and download at the same time. And HDDs performance is just crummy and no amount of hand waving or optimizing will change that. Your feature wouldn't hurt anything. But if it's just a placebo, then not sure why Valve would do it.

Do you have any data about the performance impacts of downloading updates while playing a game on the same drive? Are you sure it's really worth the fuss?

Kinda seems like your imagine run amok a little bit. Although to be fair I haven't bought an HDD sin 12 years so I'm a bit spoiled by not having to fuss over disk performance.

are you joking me? you seem to read everything I said and thought the most backwards way to say I'm wrong by misinterpreting everything I said
I don't want to download / update the a game on the same disk I'm currently using, I don't want to download a game on C while I'm playing on C, but I'm perfectly fine with a game being updtaed on D while I'm playing a game on C, somehow you utterly misunderstand everything said here and though exactly the opposite of what's being said

[ExperimentalGamer]

You can already basically achieve these results through Steam already, although you'll have to manually tell it what games it's okay to download while playing others or manually start the downloads yourself. A rule saying that Steam can only smart update games on discs other than the one in use sounds like it would be finicky to implement properly.

[Kate Hanami]

Messaggio originale di ExperimentalGamer:

You can already basically achieve these results through Steam already, although you'll have to manually tell it what games it's okay to download while playing others or manually start the downloads yourself. A rule saying that Steam can only smart update games on discs other than the one in use sounds like it would be finicky to implement properly.

that shouldn't be difficult to make at all
and that suggestion of doing it manually is dumb, am I suppose to toggle all haves I have installed every time I play a game in another disk? better to have an option to just automatically do it