Ban Companies From Blocking Linux

[Citizen Sloth]

I hope they make it against the rules to sell games that work on Linux and then change the game intentionally so that it no longer works on Linux. EA games did this with a bunch of their games by purposefully adding an anti cheat that does not work on Linux. I have a WRC racing game that worked fine for months when I bought it but now I can no longer play the game because of this. At all, not even in single player mode.

Same with Battlefield games. This is fraud (in my opinion) to sell a game and then basically steal it from players just because they don't like the OS we use. This affects anyone with a Steam Deck as well.

[Citizen Sloth]

Anoi Hidalgo님이 먼저 게시:

that sucks, they shoukd atleast gove you a refund

I tried but they rejected me twice.

[fluxtorrent]

I bet you can't name a single game that actually "supported" linux to begin with that this happened to. All the ones that have ever been brought up before never had linux listed as a supported OS

Anoi Hidalgo님이 먼저 게시:

that sucks, they shoukd atleast gove you a refund

no one is owed a refund because they bought something that wasn't supported and then it stopped working on the unsupported system

[Citizen Sloth]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

I bet you can't name a single game that actually "supported" linux to begin with that this happened to. All the ones that have ever been brought up before never had linux listed as a supported OS

Anoi Hidalgo님이 먼저 게시:

that sucks, they shoukd atleast gove you a refund

no one is owed a refund because they bought something that wasn't supported and then it stopped working on the unsupported system

Supported means that the company will help if problems arrive, in the form of patches and maybe tech support help. If a game works on Linux (and we own it) and the company decides they don't want Linux users to play it, then that is fraud without refunds. I played the game for 7 hours just fine and they basically stole it from me.

EA made a statement that they were doing this intentionally because they think multi player game cheaters on Linux can't be stopped.

[Citizen Sloth]

And again, Steam has a vested interest in Linux. They are making Steam OS (which is Linux) and Proton. They should be very opposed to screwing over customers in this fashion. I don't think this is Steam's fault, EA should have the money removed from their sales.

[fluxtorrent]

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

I bet you can't name a single game that actually "supported" linux to begin with that this happened to. All the ones that have ever been brought up before never had linux listed as a supported OS



no one is owed a refund because they bought something that wasn't supported and then it stopped working on the unsupported system

Supported means that the company will help if problems arrive, in the form of patches and maybe tech support help. If a game works on Linux (and we own it) and the company decides they don't want Linux users to play it, then that is fraud without refunds. I played the game for 7 hours just fine and they basically stole it from me.

EA made a statement that they were doing this intentionally because they think multi player game cheaters on Linux can't be stopped.

Nope. Supported means thats what the say it will work on.

You getting it to run on an unsupported system means the company owes you NOTHING if it stops working. Whether that change is intended or not.

And even Valve ends support for OS's. Only an idiot would think they would try and force others to force continued support.

Just ask all the windows XP users.

But hey buy a dictionary and look up the word fraud, you are using it wrong. They would have to have told you they supported it for it to be fraud.

[Citizen Sloth]

Valve literally has an option when refunding to select that says 'it does not work on my operating system.'

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

It's not fraud to drop OS support.

Case in pont, Valve's own bread and butter CS2 dropped Mac OS support when it released.

[fluxtorrent]

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

Valve literally has an option when refunding to select that says 'it does not work on my operating system.'

And? Doesn't make it an exception for the 2 hour 2 week rule nor does it mean anything else. You choosing to buy a game for an unsupported Os was a YOU problem. You making it work for 7 hours means YOU do not qualify for a refund

[Citizen Sloth]

Wow, I am surprised there's still company shills advocating for companies removing the ability for people to play the game we buy. What a time to be alive!

The Windows XP argument is not relevant because it is an out of date OS with security flaws. Linux is more secure than Windows has ever been.

Mac OS has basically been a dead platform for gaming for years. Almost no one uses it for gaming. I don't think it is right but understandable to some degree. I don't even know if it is capable of modern gaming.

[fluxtorrent]

Wow, I'm surprised there are still people who can't read system requirements and whine when their system can't run a product on a machine it was never designed for. what a time to be alive!

[Citizen Sloth]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

Wow, I'm surprised there are still people who can't read system requirements and whine when their system can't run a product on a machine it was never designed for. what a time to be alive!

I can't run the game because the company decided to block its use, nothing about capability. You act like Linux is out of date like Windows XP is. Its not.

[fluxtorrent]

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

Wow, I'm surprised there are still people who can't read system requirements and whine when their system can't run a product on a machine it was never designed for. what a time to be alive!

I can't run the game because the company decided to block its use, nothing about capability. You act like Linux is out of date like Windows XP is. Its not.

So did the system requirements include linux or not?

Because we both know they didn't.

Company was up front on what was required. Your mistake.

[Citizen Sloth]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

I can't run the game because the company decided to block its use, nothing about capability. You act like Linux is out of date like Windows XP is. Its not.

So did the system requirements include linux or not?

Because we both know they didn't.

Company was up front on what was required. Your mistake.

The system requirements are just a guide, they are not akin to the EULA.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

Wow, I am surprised there's still company shills advocating for companies removing the ability for people to play the game we buy. What a time to be alive!

The Windows XP argument is not relevant because it is an out of date OS with security flaws. Linux is more secure than Windows has ever been.

Mac OS has basically been a dead platform for gaming for years. Almost no one uses it for gaming. I don't think it is right but understandable to some degree. I don't even know if it is capable of modern gaming.

Regardless of the lower player counts on Mac OS, it is still a perfect example of dropping support for an OS.

GTA V Online also dropped Linux support.

[fluxtorrent]

Citizen Sloth님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

So did the system requirements include linux or not?

Because we both know they didn't.

Company was up front on what was required. Your mistake.

The system requirements are just a guide, they are not akin to the EULA.

Incorrect. They are in fact legal definitions. You actually specifically check a box regarding the TOS that explains the requirements are listed on the store page and it is your responsibility to meet them.

Prior to acquiring a Subscription, you should consult the product information made available on Steam, including Subscription description, minimum technical requirements, and user reviews.

They are in FACT part of the advertisement and if you CHOOSE not to meet them, you aren't owed SQUAT when you don't meet them. It also points out you are bound by the additional terms linked on the store page, such as the EA eula which ALSO lay out they aren't liable if you don't meet the system requirements.


Neither Valve or EA is obligated to support your OS and Valve is very much not going ot try and force people to support linux. They are not in the business of forcing devs to do anything.