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The mobile app supports biometric authentication.
Settings -> Security - > Enable Face ID
This forces FaceID. You can enable to open the app at all. Or only for SteamGuard and Trade Confirmations
You can also set a separate timeout to re-enable FaceID either on app exit, or after 5/10/15 minutes
Note that most hijacks remove the existing authenticator and make a new one. Very few people are getting their phones stolen and then having their inventory emptied. This only protects against a pretty small subset of problems.
The mobile app is no 2FA, but the very opposite of it.
Talking of which: can we please get 2FA again, valve?
Stop me if i'm wrong, but last time i checked you
This is an attack vector, not a security measurement. If you value your steam account, you stopped using it about a year ago (or was it 2, i am getting old)
Correct, you remain logged in like other authenticor apps.
How is this an attack vector, other than you losing your phone/device?
Stop giving away all your account details solves the problem.
You need my finger and mobile phone to get on my account.
It is 2FA.
As for:
Google Authenticator and Battlenet app are always online to name just two.
Attack vector? Feel free to try to access my account.
The reality is accounts are PHISHED not hacked because the end user gave away all their account details.
The account name, the password and the KEY to the door, the Steam Guard Mobile code, or scanning the QR code or authorising via fingerprint giving them access to the account.
How? by either logging into a known scam site or sites, tailored malware on your PC, the vote for my team scam, you have a pending ban scam on Discord, free knife click the link, signing in through a fake login window etc.
How does Steam (a program) know it is not you when all the account details are correct? It doesn't, therefore any action taken on your account is seen as you doing said actions.
The alternative is not plausible:
1) Someone would have to "GUESS" your account name from "millions of possible combinations".
2) Next they would have to "GUESS" your password from "millions of possible combinations" and then match it to your account name with "millions of possible combinations".
3) And finally they would have to "GUESS" the Steam Guard Mobile code "which changes every 30 seconds" to match both your account name and password to then have access your account.
The weakest link is the end user, not the security offered.
Well this is the very point. When your phone gets lost/stolen/hacked steam is totally vulnerable.
If i am not wrong in any of the 4 points i stated in the beginning, the weakest point is STILL the damn mobile app. If i made no mistake there then it is apparently NO second factor involved.
It is not even called anything "authenticator". It was called that back in the days when it was only that, an authenticator actually acting as the second factor for steam. Back then i could not buy stuff there (not sure if i could chat via that authenticator). After that the mobile app was published, that provided authentication AND access to chat and the shop while forcing you to stay logged in. Permanent access to your full account. No second factor. No security provided, but lost.
If you value your account, get rid of steam mobile app asap AND support the OP.
Feel free to prove your claim by accessing my account because as already stated.
As for:
Being here 20+ years and I have never lost access to my account and that includes before Steam Guard Email and Steam Guard Mobile existed.
As for supporting the OP, gain access to my account, prove you have by writing something on my profile and turning it from private to public.
And whoever is stealing your phone couldn't be less interested in your Steam items.
Besides I've yet to see after years of this 'threat vector' being brought someone who got 'hacked' out of a stolen or hacked phone.
Apple has this in their new iOS updates via "Stolen Phone Protection" since the iPhone can be used to reset a user's password. Actors usually working as a groiup, will target someone, and basically watch them input their passcode. This isn't particularly hard to pull off depending on the user. Some people dont use FaceID or biometrics so they always put in their passcode. If a user is FaceID centric the gang simply looks for a different victim. Once they do so, the gang distracts the user and steals the phone. THey then immediately use the passcode to lock the AppleID out. The device can then be disabled from things liek Find My IPhone and then sold off. The Stolen Phone Protection prevents security stuff like your password being changed outside of certain areas you designate.
But like these gangs arent looking to steal people' phones for their Steam inventory. They're using it to steal phones for resell. They're just going to remove it from Find my iPhone and then wipe the deivce so its 'clean'.
This again requires a lot of coordination from a gang. A stolen phone without this level of attack, can be mitigated by simply having a lock screen on your phone. On the steam app enable faceID for "on app open" which further mitigates a 'snatch and grab' of your phone while unlocked. since the app isn't accessable without faceid.
People sort of imagine way too much like they're going to be victims of some kind of highly sophisticated theft ring , when that's really just not the case. And again why do that when you can spend literally $5 to get a SaaS phishing website and tell people you're running an Elden Ring stress test and peop[le will sign up using their steam account in droves, because people are extremely dumb. This requires zero effort, and lets me get thousands of steam accounts in my sleep. Why would I try to do a high risk stealing of someone's phone by *gasp* going outside.