100% achievement without dlc plzzzzz steam

[Ackerman-Q8]

It's really annoying when you try to 100% a game only to find out that there's a DLC you need to purchase in order to get the last ones. And since not anyone has that kind of money I think it should be better if the players without the DLC had the opportunity to get all of the achievements getting 100% without spending any more money.

DLC stands for "downloadable content" anyway, so why make it "obligatory content" in terms of achievements?

[HikariLight]

DLC are still part of the game and thus have every right to affect the achievement completion rating of that game.

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by Ackerman-Q8:

DLC stands for "downloadable content" anyway, so why make it "obligatory content" in terms of achievements?

Because both Valve and the games developer/publisher want you to purchase all that DLC. They run businesses and want to make money.

[Moacir Santos]

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

Developers can already put achievements on DLCs only and should be mandatory to do so and not add them to the base game and require you to make a purchase you may not want to 100% a game.

I agree.
Achievements for the DLC should exist and be separate from the game.

Sometimes the game is cheap but it has got three or four very expensive DLCs. Its not fair to most costumers if they cant 100% the base game because of those.

[HikariLight]

Originally posted by Moacir Santos:

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

Developers can already put achievements on DLCs only and should be mandatory to do so and not add them to the base game and require you to make a purchase you may not want to 100% a game.

I agree.
Achievements for the DLC should exist and be separate from the game.

Sometimes the game is cheap but it has got three or four very expensive DLCs. Its not fair to most costumers if they cant 100% the base game because of those.

Achievements a valueless bonus objectives.
They have no worth.
DLC content is ALSO part of them game, so thus there is no need to bother separating them.
Doing the base game and not the dlc, you still haven't earned all the achievements for the game.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Originally posted by Moacir Santos:

I agree.
Achievements for the DLC should exist and be separate from the game.

Sometimes the game is cheap but it has got three or four very expensive DLCs. Its not fair to most costumers if they cant 100% the base game because of those.

Achievements a valueless bonus objectives.
They have no worth.
DLC content is ALSO part of them game, so thus there is no need to bother separating them.
Doing the base game and not the dlc, you still haven't earned all the achievements for the game.

And more importantly, unless the DLC is literally "you get an achievement and nothing else", you're not really "100%ing" the game if you haven't played most of it.

A game I'm working on will eventually end up having a free to play base game with workshop support as a kind of demo-plus, with official content sold as DLCs. If Steam adds actual support for associating achievements with DLCs before then, it'll definitely use that feature. If not, (and this is probably part of the reason they still haven't done it), the achievements are going to be part of the base game and it's going to be a pain to convert them over, with the very real possibility of just having to say "sorry, you need to earn the achievements again".

[Start_Running]

Not Valve's call to make.
Devs control that and while the do indeed separate the cheevos, the standard party is to add the dlc cheevos to the base game. Sometimes this is done regardless of whether you own the DLC or not. Technically they aren't DLC cheevos, they are base game cheevos that can only be triggered by DLC content.

Why do they do this? Becauise they know it makes you more likely to buy the DLC>