Keep Windows 7/8 Support or Create A Legacy Client

[XPho3nixRisingX]

Not everybody can switch because some hardware, software, and games just don't work well or run at all on newer versions of Windows.

[Cathulhu]

Yeah, just like the legacy clients for Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Any PC running Windows 7 can run Windows 10. And you had almost a decade to upgrade for free. And i haven't found a game i can't run on Windows 11 i could run on Windows 7.

That includes games from the 90s, without the use of emulators of course, running natively. And no, the games were not updated for modern systems.

Not to mention you are several months late for the great outcry. That already happened. You can already see Valve's response. There was none. The plans are unchanged.

[XPho3nixRisingX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cathulhu:

Yeah, just like the legacy clients for Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Any PC running Windows 7 can run Windows 10. And you had almost a decade to upgrade for free. And i haven't found a game i can't run on Windows 11 i could run on Windows 7.

That includes games from the 90s, without the use of emulators of course, running natively. And no, the games were not updated for modern systems.

Not to mention you are several months late for the great outcry. That already happened. You can already see Valve's response. There was none. The plans are unchanged.

Lmao I've been here the whole time. And no while the OS "a literal downgrade" itself runs fine, many pieces of essential hardware can be problematic at best. If you can't find games that won't run on 8 or newer you haven't been looking at all. As for the rest of the systems mentioned, they all deserved the same treatment I am requesting for 7. And Valve should've been punished for locking them out as well.

[Cathulhu]

Please name a few examples. Ideally ones i own so i can verify for myself.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cathulhu:

Please name a few examples. Ideally ones i own so i can verify for myself.

id like some examples too so i can test

[XPho3nixRisingX]

The hardware issues and garbage telemetry are bad enough on their own for me to never touch 8,10, or 11 ever again. As for the games I "have personally" had trouble with DOOM 3 : BFG Edition, Dead Space 1 & 2. Grid 1 & 2, Assassins Creed 1 & 2, Fallout 3 and NV, Bejeweled Twist, Age of Empires II: (Gold Edition) , Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, and UNO for some random reason. Some of them have fixes that work, but frequently updates will change/break them "and even other games." And I'm not going to keep messing with them every time...

[Cathulhu]

Fallout 3 and New Vegas work fine on Windows 11. The use of fan made patches is recommend with any OS involved and partially fixes the mess the devs made.
So does UNO which i own on an Ubisoft account.

Seems to be something on your end.

[XPho3nixRisingX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cathulhu:

Fallout 3 and New Vegas work fine on Windows 11. The use of fan made patches is recommend with any OS involved and partially fixes the mess the devs made.
So does UNO which i own on an Ubisoft account.

Seems to be something on your end.

How did I know that was coming? "Must be a problem on your end" should be a banner on steem's discussions/forums. I wasn't asking for help, I simply suggested keeping support for 7 or offering an alternative so that they don't screw millions of customers out of their purchases.

[Pscht]

You are NOT "screwed out of your purchase". You can switch over to Windows 10 (no idea what the cost is now, if any) OR switch to dozens of Linux distributions (FREE). Your INACTION is "screwing you out of your purchase", nothing else.

https://distrochooser.de/ <- take that test, there are Linux distros striving to look as much as Windows as possible to pick up users where they are coming from, like ZorinOS.

[Cathulhu]

Want me to prove those games work?

[XPho3nixRisingX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Pscht:

You are NOT "screwed out of your purchase". You can switch over to Windows 10 (no idea what the cost is now, if any) OR switch to dozens of Linux distributions (FREE). Your INACTION is "screwing you out of your purchase", nothing else.

https://distrochooser.de/ <- take that test, there are Linux distros striving to look as much as Windows as possible to pick up users where they are coming from, like ZorinOS.

Free to interpret however you like lmao.

I have games and hardware that will not work, and I have games I play that will not run on linux regardless of distro... I know tons of others that have run into those issues. Just because you don't see it on your end does not mean it isn't happening to others.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cathulhu:

Want me to prove those games work?

Go ahead, prove every single one of those games work without issue... Even if you could "you can't" it doesn't make screwing 2+ million people out of their games right.

[Cathulhu]

They don't lose their games, they can still access their account and games from supported hard and software.

[XPho3nixRisingX]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cathulhu:

They don't lose their games, they can still access their account and games from supported hard and software.

If they don't work, they lose their games. If they get locked, out they lose their games. Either way, they lose their games...

[Pscht]

Nobody is LOSING anything. There is no "interpretation" either. You are given options and you are not taking any of them. This is YOUR fault if you can't play your games.

[Cathulhu]

No, they do not lose their games as they are not bound to a single system. They can still access their games from a PC with supported hard and software.

[Zarineth]

How it is always "these games don't work for me" turned into "doesn't matter if they work for you"? How is it, that 97% have no problems with upgrading, but the 1% (and falling) will spam the forums with how opressed they are?

I've played 7/11 games you have named on win10/11 machines and had 0 problems with them. And I've spend a lot of time playing games as old as from 1998 on a windows 10 PC. I am really starting to wonder if people using working games as examples even know what they are doing. And the moment you turn "prove it" into "it doesn't matter if you prove it", this whole thread is a huge waste of space.