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Afterall, we still haven't seen the specific material the OP is complaining about, so without a specific example we can't tell if they're reacting to a pile of nothing which is the likely scenario here. A lot of people seem to come on here asking that things specifically offensive to them be removed, controlled, or pre-moderated including those not long ago that suggested all posts be screened to see if anything could be offensive to anyone; if we played by that ridiculous rule, there'd be no unbanned forum users.
You damn well know that if I showed an example, I would be banned.
https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/c/home/cluster/9/reward/112314
Most people that make threads like this don't really understand that their personal tastes do not equate to some anti-child, x-rated thing. Do you know how easy it is to make a black bar in paint and upload somewhere?
"an avatar with ankles showing! pornography!" - That is how some people think as well, if you think there's an issue with an avatar all you do is report it; it'll be removed and they are either temporarily or permanently banned from changing it again. Most users can be trusted, there are only a small amount of users that will just put questionable things up.
That is to say, again, nudity, overt violence, and hate speech.
Nudity does not mean 'they show some skin'. I'll caveat that with "unless it's very clear that the postures and surrounding context of the avatar is clearly meant as sexual intent". I have reported those.
Again, though, none of the ones I've seen with that sort of content in them *is from a game hub*.
And before you continue on the erroneous path of "well Steam should, because the ESRB even though I don't really understand how that works..."
You don't understand what the ESRB is for. You are the one who brought it up repeatedly and use it as a shining example of some kind of ... protective shield. it's not. It is designed ONLY to be used by COMPLETED, SHIPPED GAMES, in the USA. other countries have their own policies, their own levels of ratings, and they vary WILDLY.
Second point, though, regarding the ESRB and what constitutes 'a game' - this isn't a game. This is Steam's store front.
It would be like me working my comic store and telling people "you can't have any t-shirts with nasty words on them!! we sell to children!!" Because for one thing: *I* wore t-shirts with 'nasty' words on them to work, it was expected, because some of those things were literally in the comics I sold. My main customer base, like Steam's, were *ADULTS*, 20-40. And yes, I did demographics on my customership, so I do know. "protecting the children" is the last resort of the desperate hypocrite. Children weren't allowed to see the actually-adult and actually-pornographic materials that we sold. I checked ID for people before they were even allowed to glance at those shelves.
But we also had plenty of 'concerned' non-customers that would occasionally wander by my store, up in arms about "the children". They, like you, had done exactly no research and had exactly zero experience in what goes into a store's shelving behaviors. Certainly mine - I had 3 schools *directly* near the store. I was well aware of those kids who DID shop at my store, and they were given the easy-finds of 'all ages' comics right at the front of the store where I could keep my eye on them.
But then there's the chick that walked in with her maybe 9 or 10 year old kid, glanced at the wall behind me at the calendars. There were comic ones, spider man, xmen, whatever, but also the popular sports, kittens, and *gasp* Sports Illustrated. whose calendar always featured attractive women wearing stylish swimwear, performing sports on the beach or wherever. And this lady had a H I S S Y F I T, about "that porn right there where my delicate child can seeeee it!"
It was literally a clothed woman, wearing a fairly modest bikini. Not a sign of any nudity anywhere, even on the surrounding Frazetta calendar which by any means WOULD certainly have been what she could have said had nudity in it. (it did not however, have it anywhere on the front, which was displayed.)
Her highly subjective reasoning was flawed from the start. First because of course, "the children" didn't give a rat's hind end about said stuff in the first place and wouldn't for several years when their hormones started kicking in, and second because *it was literally not at all porn*.
So please, dude.
Report things if you need to. But don't ever go claiming that it's for anything other than YOUR OWN eyes. Your kid? They've already seen tons worse, everywhere they go. They have 100% guaranteed seen things online that would probably make your granny blush. And if they are participating in online games with other players in ANY context, but *PARTICULARLY* in the context of PVP games...
I *guarantee* you they curse like a sailor when you aren't there, they definitely hear 'bad words', they are definitely participating in bloodsport which... in my opinion is a million times worse than nudity.
Holy cow dude, how many times do I have to say this, I only used it as a descriptor, and not talking about the system itself. I used it as a descriptor just like how someone will say "Grocery list" instead of telling someone "here is the bacon, eggs, peppers, salt, salsa, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, cheese, milk, oil, salad dressing, ketchup, ground beef, chicken list"
Didn't even bother reading the rest of what you said because if you can't even get the idea what a descriptor is, then I can't trust what you said is relevant to the conversation.
Or overly political stuff too, I suppose.
Not to mention the cool 90s gore prone stuff, Deadpool, etc. People seem to think it needs to basically be..... my little pony.
Nothing like non customers to try forcing their views on a business let alone its workers.
Like the last thread of this kind lol
Well most parents do seem to just let the kids do whatever online as they're not annoying them personally, and based off of a lot of games so far, this appears very accurate. Let alone general knowledge of the current gens. The furry stuff is likely way worse than what the op sees anyway.
You were given the answer to report any perceived wrongdoing of avatars. That is all you can do, making a fuss out of it isn't very productive.
Other than myself, you are literally the only other person in this thread that actually said something that is valid and relevant, thank you.
Yes, that would also be a good idea. have default in game avatars be one that is the equivalent of what would be allowed in rated G, rated Y, ESRB E type content, or first letter of users name. I think this is something that would be tied to Steam works, and it would be a setting in Steam that you choose to see default avatars or custom avatars, and the setting would be something that would be blocked by Family view and would be at default in family view. With this kind of system, it would not matter if a game is still be updating or not because it would be Steamworks that would be sending what avatars to use, it wouldn't be a game setting it would be a Steam setting.
I can't help you if you do not understand what porn is.
If you have issues with content, report the avatar, there is no need to suggest locking down all users ability to use custom avatars for something that likely isn't even bad to begin with, that one person may or may not have done. As stated many times before, they will be temp or permanently banned from changing it, if actually doing something awful with an avatar.
Else, extremely doubt, nor did you need to make a thread about the possibility of having seen something.
It's a counter-productive idea based upon something that again, is likely not actual 18+ "porn" but of what someone considers such, as we have experienced before in this section has never been such. We've seen a good number of people suggest censorship, pre-approval, and otherwise total control of anything users can do before it is fully live for everyone.
The idea is not original in its essential basics of "dont let users have this existing feature" over a perceived offense.
The proper thing to do is report, that's it. There is zero reason to suggest removing one of the most popular features of Steam. Instead, you should suggest turning off avatars entirely for the persons client.
Or, even better, if you're so worried; firewall or adblock the specific domain for steam image content, problem solved while not removing others abilities to enjoy the feature as-is.