The real way to combat cheaters in modern gaming.

[AftermathTheOG]

There's a really simple solution to stopping cheaters, that companies just don't seem to use. that's HWID/IP bans. Yes, I know some people can spoof their IP, but doing it to a HWID is a bit harder and usually involves voiding any warranty your system has. It's also really hard to do for modern cheaters, since they're breastfed on a touch screen device.

Also, why don't people queued with a cheater get punished. A couple wins removed from their total isn't much of a punishment. People playing with a cheater should be punished as equally to the cheater, regardless of whether they knew or not. This way, not only does it prevent players from getting boosted by cheaters, it also makes them consider the types of players they queue together with.

[Crazy Tiger]

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Since when are consoles cheater free?

The most recent consoles are cheater free. Even the the PS4 is still cheater free in call of duty.

If only that was true.

[[?]legit]

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The most recent consoles are cheater free. Even the the PS4 is still cheater free in call of duty.

If only that was true.

It is true.

[Cathulhu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6oAfLlWYQ
Seems there is quite a cheater issue on consoles.

[Brian9824]

Escrito originalmente por Cathulhu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6oAfLlWYQ
Seems there is quite a cheater issue on consoles.

Yep, its harder to cheat on consoles, but its still an issue. The most common way they do so is via 3rd party controller modifications that do stuff like eliminate recoil giving cheaters an unfair advantage.

Others use jail broken or modded consoles to cheat as well.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por Cathulhu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6oAfLlWYQ
Seems there is quite a cheater issue on consoles.

This is a clickbait video that doesn't show any cheating.

Sony does not consider mouse and keyboard adapters cheating. They even had their own adapter.

Go ahead and show me someone aimbotting in a public call of duty game. Spoiler: You won't find one.

[Crazy Tiger]

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If only that was true.

It is true.

In that case I have a bridge to sell ya.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Escrito originalmente por Cathulhu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6oAfLlWYQ
Seems there is quite a cheater issue on consoles.

Yep, its harder to cheat on consoles, but its still an issue. The most common way they do so is via 3rd party controller modifications that do stuff like eliminate recoil giving cheaters an unfair advantage.

Others use jail broken or modded consoles to cheat as well.

Not even remotely comparable to wallhack or aimbot cheaters on the pc. Almost all "no recoil devices" are useless gimmicks to rip off clueless customers who buy into that logic...

[Brian9824]

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Escrito originalmente por Cathulhu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po6oAfLlWYQ
Seems there is quite a cheater issue on consoles.

This is a clickbait video that doesn't show any cheating.

Sony does not consider mouse and keyboard adapters cheating. They even had their own adapter.

Go ahead and show me someone aimbotting in a public call of duty game. Spoiler: You won't find one.

The game developers DO consider it cheating and have been updating their cheat detection to combat it. They use 3rd party devices like the Chronus Zen which has built in aimbots and other functionality I won't link to because that would be against the rules.

That device and others like it have been specifically called out by Activision where there flat out say its use is cheating and they are banning for using it

[[?]legit]

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thers use jail broken or modded consoles to cheat as well.

Nope, you can't. Once you go online with your modded console you are instantly getting banned and will never be able to play online with that console again.

[Brian9824]

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Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

thers use jail broken or modded consoles to cheat as well.

Nope, you can't. Once you go online with your modded console you are instantly getting banned and will never be able to play online with that console again.

Your getting confused between modding and jail breaking.... You can mod the console without jail breaking it.

[Brian9824]

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2023/04/call-of-duty-will-ban-cronus-and-xim-hardware-users.html

Again straight from the developer, using such devices are indeed cheating, so the statement there are no cheaters is unequivocally false. What is accurate to say is there are LESS cheaters, but console cheats are very much a thing and have been for years and just like their PC counterparts get more sophisticated every year.

[Crazy Tiger]

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thers use jail broken or modded consoles to cheat as well.

Nope, you can't. Once you go online with your modded console you are instantly getting banned and will never be able to play online with that console again.

That's not true. One of the teens in the street has modded both his PS5 and Series X and has been playing, and cheating, online for over a year with both now. I'd have to ask him what he exactly did for specifics, no idea on that.

And let's not talk about the Switch, that one is so easily to mod and remain online, it's a joke.

[Brian9824]

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Nope, you can't. Once you go online with your modded console you are instantly getting banned and will never be able to play online with that console again.

That's not true. One of the teens in the street has modded both his PS5 and Series X and has been playing, and cheating, online for over a year with both now. I'd have to ask him what he exactly did for specifics, no idea on that.

And let's not talk about the Switch, that one is so easily to mod and remain online, it's a joke.

Yeah you can mod systems to access features or bypass some of the protections without jailbreaking it. Jailbreaking it and modifying the OS is what prevents online play. Its harder to mod consoles and its less prevalent to find cheats, but its still very much a thing.

Borderlands on consoles was a common game to see cheats for as people would hack it like crazy.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

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This is a clickbait video that doesn't show any cheating.

Sony does not consider mouse and keyboard adapters cheating. They even had their own adapter.

Go ahead and show me someone aimbotting in a public call of duty game. Spoiler: You won't find one.

The game developers DO consider it cheating and have been updating their cheat detection to combat it. They use 3rd party devices like the Chronus Zen

That device and others like it have been specifically called out by Activision where there flat out say its use is cheating and they are banning for using it

I really don't care about that, if they see it as cheating, fine.

Such adapters have exactly 0 impact on other peoples gaming expereience.

I'm personally totally fine with that, people can use an adapter, an ultimate scuff elite gaming controller or a steering wheel, it really doesn't affect me in any negative way.

Wallhacks or aimbots are cheating, something like an adapter is just laughable. You can't even tell if someone uses one.

[[?]legit]

Escrito originalmente por brian9824:

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

That's not true. One of the teens in the street has modded both his PS5 and Series X and has been playing, and cheating, online for over a year with both now. I'd have to ask him what he exactly did for specifics, no idea on that.

And let's not talk about the Switch, that one is so easily to mod and remain online, it's a joke.

Yeah you can mod systems to access features or bypass some of the protections without jailbreaking it. Jailbreaking it and modifying the OS is what prevents online play. Its harder to mod consoles and its less prevalent to find cheats, but its still very much a thing.

Borderlands on consoles was a common game to see cheats for as people would hack it like crazy.

Again, feel free to show me how people are using wallhacks and aimbots on a console...