Steam, please start a Stream Service.

[xBCxRangers]

This a post not at all controversial, but really a question as much as a post.

People who do know me, know i play on Ge Force Now. Modern games on a Win 7 PC of course not gonna happen.

And, i play these games on such service thru an Xbox One. Works perfectly, and for about 60 a year (i tend to find sales) having the best gaming time of my life.

Low and behold i had to buy a product, and in that got a free code for Game Pass Ultimate. Of course, newer games can't play on Xbox One, but can Streamed via "their" Stream service.

I am playing the most up to date games, not upgrading anything and having a blast.

Of course, Mr Newell and Valve are partnered with GFN. However, we can only play selected games. Not our whole libraries.

That being said, even if i bought a NASA computer, i would still play games like Arma 3, American Truck and others on GFN, because i tend to like mods, and do not want to break my games. Or computer.

Needless to say, i would in fact recommend anyone using mod entailed games, though they have to be thru the Workshop, to play on GFN rather then their PCs, where crashes and problems are very common. Not on GFN.

What does this mean? Well, Streaming works.

Here are my speeds..

DOWNLOAD Mbps
315.87

UPLOAD Mbps
10.99

Good bad or indifferent, my streamed games run impeccably well.

So, given Xbox has their games on GFN, and Steam has a selected number on GFN, why does Mr Newell not come out with a Stream Service, that can access our WHOLE library?

Keep in mind, this a request for noobs, who want the benefits of PC gaming, without the expense of contraptions, and can be played on a simple gaming console.

Please make it happen, Mr Newell

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

They did. Steam link.

It died.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/353380/Steam_Link/

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

They did. Steam link.

It died.

Wasn't that just a mirror?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Developers choose which games to allow. Steam has no say in it since they do not own the games.

Steam creating a streaming service would have the same issues.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Developers choose which games to allow. Steam has no say in it since they do not own the games.

Steam creating a streaming service would have the same issues.

Why though? If it's on Steam its on Steam. All it does is have them stream the games, even thru their computers.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Developers choose which games to allow. Steam has no say in it since they do not own the games.

Steam creating a streaming service would have the same issues.

Why though? If it's on Steam its on Steam. All it does is have them stream the games, even thru their computers.

Which is exactly what GFN does. It used to allow all games, then publishers started threatening lawsuits claiming the license didn't cover streaming from a computer the user didn't own.

So again, if Steam did a streaming service, it would have the exact same restrictions.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Developers choose which games to allow. Steam has no say in it since they do not own the games.

Steam creating a streaming service would have the same issues.

Why though? If it's on Steam its on Steam. All it does is have them stream the games, even thru their computers.

A game being on Steam doesn't mean Valve has any say over it. You've been told this lots of times.

Valve cannot take $100 from devs and then control their game. Devs have control of their creation.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Why though? If it's on Steam its on Steam. All it does is have them stream the games, even thru their computers.

Which is exactly what GFN does. It used to allow all games, then publishers started threatening lawsuits claiming the license didn't cover streaming from a computer the user didn't own.

So again, if Steam did a streaming service, it would have the exact same restrictions.

Well GFN is another company, and so i understand that.

But here, when Developers put their games on Steam, they agreed to have it on Steam, no matter what makeup of peoples PCs. Same with just streaming it.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Which is exactly what GFN does. It used to allow all games, then publishers started threatening lawsuits claiming the license didn't cover streaming from a computer the user didn't own.

So again, if Steam did a streaming service, it would have the exact same restrictions.

Well GFN is another company, and so i understand that.

But here, when Developers put their games on Steam, they agreed to have it on Steam, no matter what makeup of peoples PCs. Same with just streaming it.

Valve has to agree to things too when a game is here. It's not a one-way street.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Well GFN is another company, and so i understand that.

But here, when Developers put their games on Steam, they agreed to have it on Steam, no matter what makeup of peoples PCs. Same with just streaming it.

Valve has to agree to things too when a game is here. It's not a one-way street.

I know that, but he's talking about a situation, where developers agreed to put their games on Steam, not Nvidia. And so of course they had a right to complain.

But why would a developer care "how" people are using Steam, on Steam. They agree to have their games on Steam, not how one may utilize their game on Steam.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Which is exactly what GFN does. It used to allow all games, then publishers started threatening lawsuits claiming the license didn't cover streaming from a computer the user didn't own.

So again, if Steam did a streaming service, it would have the exact same restrictions.

Well GFN is another company, and so i understand that.

But here, when Developers put their games on Steam, they agreed to have it on Steam, no matter what makeup of peoples PCs. Same with just streaming it.

You didn't read.

The issue was that it wasn't on the users computer. It was on a computer the user didn't own.

So it doesn't matter if the computer is owned by Valve. It isn't your computer.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Well GFN is another company, and so i understand that.

But here, when Developers put their games on Steam, they agreed to have it on Steam, no matter what makeup of peoples PCs. Same with just streaming it.

You didn't read.

The issue was that it wasn't on the users computer. It was on a computer the user didn't own.

So it doesn't matter if the computer is owned by Valve. It isn't your computer.

Does Game Pass Ultimate stream thru others computers? Again, the GFN situation was explained, in that it was another company altogether. And developers did not agree to anything with GFN.

They agreed with Steam, and so if Mr Newell can implement his own stream service, i can;t see how developers can complain.

All you're doing is giving someone another tool, like Mr Guyver claimed they gave in lieu of mirror gaming. Obviously, developers had no say if you used Steam Link.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Valve has to agree to things too when a game is here. It's not a one-way street.

I know that, but he's talking about a situation, where developers agreed to put their games on Steam, not Nvidia. And so of course they had a right to complain.

But why would a developer care "how" people are using Steam, on Steam. They agree to have their games on Steam, not how one may utilize their game on Steam.

You are showing you don't even understand how the service works.

There are no games "on Nvidia". There are only games in Steam. Nvidia simply supplied the hardware and infrastructure for the streaming. They didn't supply the games, that was Steam.

So, if Steam provided the hardware and infrastructure for the streaming service, the result would be the same as it is for GFN.

Because it isn't your hardware being used.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I know that, but he's talking about a situation, where developers agreed to put their games on Steam, not Nvidia. And so of course they had a right to complain.

But why would a developer care "how" people are using Steam, on Steam. They agree to have their games on Steam, not how one may utilize their game on Steam.

You are showing you don't even understand how the service works.

There are no games "on Nvidia". There are only games in Steam. Nvidia simply supplied the hardware and infrastructure for the streaming. They didn't supply the games, that was Steam.

So, if Steam provided the hardware and infrastructure for the streaming service, the result would be the same as it is for GFN.

Because it isn't your hardware being used.

I repeat..

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

You didn't read.

The issue was that it wasn't on the users computer. It was on a computer the user didn't own.

So it doesn't matter if the computer is owned by Valve. It isn't your computer.

Does Game Pass Ultimate stream thru others computers? Again, the GFN situation was explained, in that it was another company altogether. And developers did not agree to anything with GFN.

They agreed with Steam, and so if Mr Newell can implement his own stream service, i can;t see how developers can complain.

All you're doing is giving someone another tool, like Mr Guyver claimed they gave in lieu of mirror gaming. Obviously, developers had no say if you used Steam Link.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

You didn't read.

The issue was that it wasn't on the users computer. It was on a computer the user didn't own.

So it doesn't matter if the computer is owned by Valve. It isn't your computer.

Does Game Pass Ultimate stream thru others computers? Again, the GFN situation was explained, in that it was another company altogether. And developers did not agree to anything with GFN.

They agreed with Steam, and so if Mr Newell can implement his own stream service, i can;t see how developers can complain.

All you're doing is giving someone another tool, like Mr Guyver claimed they gave in lieu of mirror gaming. Obviously, developers had no say if you used Steam Link.

You didn't read what Steam link actually was, did you?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

You didn't read.

The issue was that it wasn't on the users computer. It was on a computer the user didn't own.

So it doesn't matter if the computer is owned by Valve. It isn't your computer.

Does Game Pass Ultimate stream thru others computers? Again, the GFN situation was explained, in that it was another company altogether. And developers did not agree to anything with GFN.

They agreed with Steam, and so if Mr Newell can implement his own stream service, i can;t see how developers can complain. All you're doing is giving someone another tool, like Mr Guyver claimed they gave in lieu of mirror gaming. Obviously, developers had no say if you used Steam Link.

It does stream through other's computers. It Streams through computers owned by Nvidia.

Developer's didn't agree to have their games streamed from hardware not owned by the account owner. Hence why they restrict them.

Now, think carefully, would you own the hardware that is used to stream games if Valve ran a service like GFN?

The answer is the same as asking if you own the hardware that is used by Nvidia for GFN.