Steam Achievements for Games/DLC I Own Only

[Jarhem]

As the title suggests:

Can we keep achievements for games for only the part of the base game/DLCs that we own?

For example: If I own a base game, then I shouldn't have to see or do the DLC achievements for that game if I don't own those DLCs to get 100% on that game.

It becomes kind of a p2w system to pay for certain DLCs just to get 100% on a game, at least for those of us who legitimately try to get 100% completion on games.

[JPMcMillen]

If you want to 100% the game, you need to own the whole game. It's done that way to try and encourage those that care about achievements to purchase the DLC so they can try to get them all.

[Princess Luna]

Originally posted by Jarhem:

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For example: If I own a base game, then I shouldn't have to see or do the DLC achievements for that game if I don't own those DLCs to get 100% on that game.

Steam not going to hide DLC achievements is you dont have DLC
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Originally posted by Jarhem:

It becomes kind of a p2w system to pay for certain DLCs just to get 100% on a game, at least for those of us who legitimately try to get 100% completion on games.

Why you play for achievements and not for gameplay?

[Ben Lubar]

It's done this way because Steam does not currently support any way for third party developers to group achievements or associate them with a DLC.

If you want to play all of a game's content and some of that content is distributed via DLC, achievements don't even enter into the decision for whether that logically means you want to play the DLC.

If you want to mark achievements as completed even though you did not play the associated content, there's well-known software out there that can do that for you.

[Jarhem]

Originally posted by JPMcMillen:

If you want to 100% the game, you need to own the whole game. It's done that way to try and encourage those that care about achievements to purchase the DLC so they can try to get them all.

You don't buy 50% of the game as the base game and then pay for the other 50% as DLCs to get the full game. DLCs are always additional/extra content that gets added on top of the base game.

When you're going for a game completion it's supposed to be completing the "base game" that's initially released or any updates solely for the "base game".

If you go into DLC completion that's going into "content" completion and not just "game" completion.

Seems to me what you're saying that this is a sales strategy to encourage people to buy more, which is of course understandable as well.

[Jarhem]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

It's done this way because Steam does not currently support any way for third party developers to group achievements or associate them with a DLC.

If you want to play all of a game's content and some of that content is distributed via DLC, achievements don't even enter into the decision for whether that logically means you want to play the DLC.

Even sites like "steamhunters" have this data available, so I assume it wouldn't be too difficult for Steam to at the very least mark the DLC/Update specific achievements. Would be a nice QoL update on the app itself without needing 3rd party browser extensions.

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

If you want to mark achievements as completed even though you did not play the associated content, there's well-known software out there that can do that for you.

I'm aware of this, but as I originally mentioned legitimacy, this would be a moral choice and I don't want to go down that path.

[BJWyler]

Originally posted by Jarhem:

As the title suggests:

Can we keep achievements for games for only the part of the base game/DLCs that we own?

For example: If I own a base game, then I shouldn't have to see or do the DLC achievements for that game if I don't own those DLCs to get 100% on that game.

It becomes kind of a p2w system to pay for certain DLCs just to get 100% on a game, at least for those of us who legitimately try to get 100% completion on games.

First of all, that's not remotely close to what P2W actually means, but we all know people love to misuse terms to suit their own weak viewpoints.

Secondly, did you bother doing a search for this topic before posting?
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/search/?gidforum=882959061469928464&include_deleted=1&q=Separate+dlc+achievements+

And finally, if you want 100%, then you 100% ALL the content. There is no issue with how Steam handles achievements. You either have done ALL the content in a game or you have not.

I am a completionist and I find it completely fair that one needs to do ALL the content in a game to get 100%. You know what I find unfair? Those who want to "cheat" and manipulate the system to pretend to have done 100% of a game's content when they really haven't done 100% of a game's content. You know, maybe Steam should get involved and make sure people can't cheat like that.

Here's another point to ponder, why should someone get to have 100% for a game without the DLC content when someone else got a true 100% by doing it with all the extra content?

[On Vacation]

Steamhunter's gets the games achievements and anything added after release is put under "update month/year". Tying the achievements to a specific dlc is done manually by moderation.

Valve could have considered this early on, but at this point the database is so large with no flag or other marker to differentiate between base/dlc achievements, that the ship has sailed, gone over the horizon, and fell off the Great A'Tuin by this point.

[BJWyler]

Originally posted by On Vacation:

Steamhunter's gets the games achievements and anything added after release is put under "update month/year". Tying the achievements to a specific dlc is done manually by moderation.

Valve could have considered this early on, but at this point the database is so large with no flag or other marker to differentiate between base/dlc achievements, that the ship has sailed, gone over the horizon, and fell off the Great A'Tuin by this point.

Additionally an absolute no thanks to having a thousand separate entries for games with literally a thousand dlc achievements, like Train Simulator.

[Jarhem]

Originally posted by On Vacation:

Steamhunter's gets the games achievements and anything added after release is put under "update month/year". Tying the achievements to a specific dlc is done manually by moderation.

Valve could have considered this early on, but at this point the database is so large with no flag or other marker to differentiate between base/dlc achievements, that the ship has sailed, gone over the horizon, and fell off the Great A'Tuin by this point.

Yes, this is understandable. I assume there won't be any collaboration either with any 3rd party like steamhunters at this point with the number of games available as you mentioned.

Oh well, could've been a nice to have.