Enforce a non launcher policy on steam store

[UbioZur]

I believe that steam is big enough to be able to change the market and enforce a an increase user experience on their store (and hopefully will snowball to the other stores)

When a user press play on the game, the game should start so the user can play the game. There should be a policy for that by steam for their store!
No more playing play to start another store to start a launcher to start a daemon to start a game.

Having a second button to start a game launcher as an addition is fine to add also, but the play button should be to play the game, not to be redirected to another window that is not the game (either it's a launcher or downloader or store).

Yes it would annoy many big publisher and other store, and some contracts may be lost and gone from steam because their greedy publisher don't care about their players.
But I believe the player experience will increase and more player would be keen on staying with steam as a store then.

Bonus, it may also help a lot to get many games and experiences being fluid and smooth on the deck and deck ui and big picture!

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

A no-launcher policy in Steam will mean games with launchers won't be in here. Just like GOG's no-drm policy means games with DRM are not in their store.

True, basically this mreans goodbye to all of the Warthunder and sister games, goodbye to Runescape, goodbye to Planetside 2, goodbye to basically most free to play games (most dont know they have their own hidden launcher platforms), goodbye to all EA products here and above all of that...

Goodbye Fallout, The Elder Scrolls and even Borderlands.

[Brian9824]

Tiny Birb Heavy and Tiny Birb He eredeti hozzászólása:

Tito Shivan eredeti hozzászólása:

A no-launcher policy in Steam will mean games with launchers won't be in here. Just like GOG's no-drm policy means games with DRM are not in their store.

True, basically this mreans goodbye to all of the Warthunder and sister games, goodbye to Runescape, goodbye to Planetside 2, goodbye to basically most free to play games (most dont know they have their own hidden launcher platforms), goodbye to all EA products here and above all of that...

Goodbye Fallout, The Elder Scrolls and even Borderlands.

Not to mention many MMO's, Rockstar games, etc.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Yep, which would result in the exact same outcome as simply not buying it on steam if you don't want a 3rd party launcher. Makes no sense to remove games from EVERYONE on steam because SOME don't want a 3rd party launcher...

Nobody wants a 3rd party launcher in steam. Just because people buy 3rd party launcher games doesn't mean they're fine with that practice.

I disagree with you entirely, sorry to say but I 100% prefer the gaming launchers especially for Runescape, Tower of Fantasy and even freakin PlanetSide and their ability to remember my log ins to spend less time logging in, I can say more to the point that most of PlanetSide, a huge community on Steam would also beg to differ with this claim

[Mad Scientist]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Yep, which would result in the exact same outcome as simply not buying it on steam if you don't want a 3rd party launcher. Makes no sense to remove games from EVERYONE on steam because SOME don't want a 3rd party launcher...

Nobody wants a 3rd party launcher in steam. Just because people buy 3rd party launcher games doesn't mean they're fine with that practice.

I'm ok with a launcher within Steam. It's not my preference, but I understand the importance or multi-role aspect of a launcher from older games and even software patching in general via launchers.

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Not to mention many MMO's, Rockstar games, etc.

Especially MMOs.

[[?]legit]

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

You don't speak for everyone, having an extra launcher has absolutely no impact with me and its fine.

On this matter, I'll gladly claim that I do speak for everyone.

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Again your free to enforce a no launcher policy, just don't buy it, but enforcing your views on everyone else is never a good scenario and removing titles that steam makes millions of dollars off of, and that millions of people enjoy just makes no sense.

I don't see any problem with games not being released on steam anymore. This is already happening anyways, and I'd rather fully enjoy a real steam without compromises, than a "fals labeled" steam full of non-steam games.

[Brian9824]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

You don't speak for everyone, having an extra launcher has absolutely no impact with me and its fine.

On this matter, I'll gladly claim that I do speak for everyone.

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Again your free to enforce a no launcher policy, just don't buy it, but enforcing your views on everyone else is never a good scenario and removing titles that steam makes millions of dollars off of, and that millions of people enjoy just makes no sense.

I don't see any problem with games not being released on steam anymore. This is already happening anyways, and I'd rather fully enjoy a real steam without compromises, than a "fals labeled" steam full of non-steam games.

Cool, then your free not to buy them, considering quite a few people have already said that they have no issue with the 3rd party launchers then clearly you do not in fact speak for everyone.

Your entitled to your opinion, but there is no logical sense in removing titles from steam simply because people aren't capable of not buying them if they have a 3rd party launcher.

Now if anything they should just add a filter on profile to exclude them from the store like they do for EA games. This way those who don't want them can pretend they don't exist, and those who don't care can buy them as normal and steam doesn't lose millions of dollars.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

You don't speak for everyone, having an extra launcher has absolutely no impact with me and its fine. Again your free to enforce a no launcher policy, just don't buy it, but enforcing your views on everyone else is never a good scenario and removing titles that steam makes millions of dollars off of, and that millions of people enjoy just makes no sense.

On this matter, I'll gladly claim that I do speak for everyone.

I don't see any problem with games not being released on steam anymore. This is already happening anyways, and I'd rather fully enjoy a real steam without compromises, than a "fals labeled" steam full of non-steam games.

I want to just note I dont think you understand how many games Steam has released and how many of those are no longer for sale or were just prototypes they did with technology mate. Like Half Life Alyx was literally a prototype game so Valve could get their VR coding feet wet, hence why it never went anywhere, or how Counterstrike 2, Half-life 2, Team Fortress 2 and Portal 2 were just remakes of the first games in the Source Engine and how Dota 2 is literally just a MOBA modded Warcraft 3, Valve makes things that people prize as games, their honestly not when you understand largely their all just prototype toys they made while playing with technology...

[Boblin the Goblin]

Tiny Birb Heavy and Tiny Birb He eredeti hozzászólása:

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

On this matter, I'll gladly claim that I do speak for everyone.

I don't see any problem with games not being released on steam anymore. This is already happening anyways, and I'd rather fully enjoy a real steam without compromises, than a "fals labeled" steam full of non-steam games.

I want to just note I dont think you understand how many games Steam has released and how many of those are no longer for sale or were just prototypes they did with technology mate. Like Half Life Alyx was literally a prototype game so Valve could get their VR coding feet wet, hence why it never went anywhere, or how Counterstrike 2, Half-life 2, Team Fortress 2 and Portal 2 were just remakes of the first games in the Source Engine and how Dota 2 is literally just a MOBA modded Warcraft 3, Valve makes things that people prize as games, their honestly not when you understand largely their all just prototype toys they made while playing with technology...

This is a great oversimplification of what those games are.

[[?]legit]

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Cool, then your free not to buy them, considering quite a few people have already said that they have no issue with the 3rd party launchers then clearly you do not in fact speak for everyone.

Your entitled to your opinion, but there is no logical sense in removing titles from steam simply because people aren't capable of not buying them if they have a 3rd party launcher.

Now if anything they should just add a filter on profile to exclude them from the store like they do for EA games. This way those who don't want them can pretend they don't exist, and those who don't care can buy them as normal and steam doesn't lose millions of dollars.

Is the revenue of a company really more important for you than your own principals and user experience? Sure, some people are completely undemanding, you claim to be fine with 3rd party launchers (which doesn't really sound credible to me tbh )

Keep in mind that if steam decided to enforce a no launcher policy, not every game would get removed. Some games will adapt, some will leave steam. Steam is not the middle of the gaming universe. But I get that one can get biased and a steam fanboy after almost two decades on this platform.

[Boblin the Goblin]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Cool, then your free not to buy them, considering quite a few people have already said that they have no issue with the 3rd party launchers then clearly you do not in fact speak for everyone.

Your entitled to your opinion, but there is no logical sense in removing titles from steam simply because people aren't capable of not buying them if they have a 3rd party launcher.

Now if anything they should just add a filter on profile to exclude them from the store like they do for EA games. This way those who don't want them can pretend they don't exist, and those who don't care can buy them as normal and steam doesn't lose millions of dollars.

Is the revenue of a company really more important for you than your own principals and user experience? Sure, some people are completely undemanding, you claim to be fine with 3rd party launchers (which doesn't really sound credible to me tbh :D:)

Keep in mind that if steam decided to enforce a no launcher policy, not every game would get removed. Some games will adapt, some will leave steam. Steam is not the middle of the gaming universe. But I get that one can get biased and a steam fanboy after almost two decades on this platform.

Even with me not liking 3rd party launchers, Steam shouldn't force devs to remove them.

[Brian9824]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

Is the revenue of a company really more important for you than your own principals and user experience?

Nope, as a former software developer I can understand the value a 3rd party launcher provides, and having a 3rd party launcher has absolutely no impact on my user experience.

If I have an issue with them, i'm capable of expressing self restraint and not buying them. I don't need a platform to remove them in order to not buy them.

[[?]legit]

KittenGrindr eredeti hozzászólása:

Even with me not liking 3rd party launchers, Steam shouldn't force devs to remove them.

But it's okay that devs force their adware on my PC after I made the purchase in steam? Take GTA V as an example, the game was fine, intil the devs forced the r* launcher in the steam version.

I wouldn't make such a new policy applying to already existing games though, so only for upcoming releases. Nothing will get removed from steam.

[Brian9824]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

KittenGrindr eredeti hozzászólása:

Even with me not liking 3rd party launchers, Steam shouldn't force devs to remove them.

But it's okay that devs force their adware on my PC after I made the purchase in steam? Take GTA V as an example, the game was fine, intil the devs forced the r* launcher in the steam version.

I wouldn't make such a new policy applying to already existing games though, so only for upcoming releases. Nothing will get removed from steam.

Or as previously stated don't buy them if they have a 3rd party launcher, you get what you want, and everyone who DOESN'T care about the 3rd party launcher can buy them and get what they want. Everyone wins

[Boblin the Goblin]

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

KittenGrindr eredeti hozzászólása:

Even with me not liking 3rd party launchers, Steam shouldn't force devs to remove them.

But it's okay that devs force their adware on my PC after I made the purchase in steam? Take GTA V as an example, the game was fine, intil the devs forced the r* launcher in the steam version.

I wouldn't make such a new policy applying to already existing games though, so only for upcoming releases. Nothing will get removed from steam.

Still a no. They aren't forcing anything. You aren't required to play their game.

[Brian9824]

KittenGrindr eredeti hozzászólása:

legit eredeti hozzászólása:

But it's okay that devs force their adware on my PC after I made the purchase in steam? Take GTA V as an example, the game was fine, intil the devs forced the r* launcher in the steam version.

I wouldn't make such a new policy applying to already existing games though, so only for upcoming releases. Nothing will get removed from steam.

Still a no. They aren't forcing anything. You aren't required to play their game.

I really don't get why the solution of individuals not liking something is to take it away from everyone else who doesn't have an issue with it.

It's like I don't like spicy food, it doesn't mean resteraunt shouldn't carry it, I just don't order it and let those who like it enjoy it.