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Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 2:51am

Limit multiple accounts

Steam should limit multiple account on steam platform because cheaters use it to bypass game bans. Trolls use it harras people.

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Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Again, when you make claims, you have to back them up. Making loose claims without back up is not something anyone can work with. You can keep hammering "you and your proof", but it doesn't change that you made a suggestion based on assumptions without even giving a second thought to the execution of it. You want something changed that isn't against the rules and is inherent to the internet, so you'll have to provide a good reason and elaboration to get that changed.

Valve is a company that bases decisions on data, not on assumptions. If in actuality it could be seen and proven that many alt accounts would be used for cheating or trolling, they would act on that. As a business you don't act on feelings, you act on data, facts, evidence and other hardlined information.

Nobody in this thread is asking you pointless questions, everybody is asking you questions related to the suggestion you make. That you want to make people out as if they don't, just further shows that you came with a half-baked idea and now don't want to admit that. There is nothing wrong with admitting you had a flash of an idea that isn't thought through. People question your idea because it's not a strong idea and you don't elaborate on it. You can battle people all you want, it doesn't change that.

It also doesn't help you that you make baseless accusations. I've never denied that cheaters/hackers exist. I even stated in my previous post that they exist a lot and are part of human nature. It does show that you don't actually read and rather try a vendetta path.

You talk about maturity, yet you act like a spoiled teen who can't handle that people question their "grand" idea.

I admit that idea is rushed and half baked but still difficult for me to proof to make my point.

That's ok. It's also ok to not like cheaters and trolls, most people don't like them. It's just something that is very hard to battle. As with everything in software, when you create tools to battle things, the other side will find ways to circumvent those tools. We usually call it an uphill battle.

It's easy to make throwaway email accounts, it's not that hard to change ones IP or use a VPN, there are people in the world who have more than one computer. If people really want to, they can have multiple accounts without looking like they came from the same owner.
Most legitimate users will have multiple accounts on 1 "address" without too much hiding (for example for trading, or to separate certain games from the rest, or families with each member their own account, etc) and one has to question whether they should be inconvenienced for something that very likely won't hurt the ones you're after.

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BloodShed Dec 19, 2020 @ 2:55am

And how do you propose they do that?

Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:05am

Originally posted by BloodShed:
And how do you propose they do that?

Steam should create seperate moderators department which only concentrate on trolls and multiple account on steam. I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts and forum banned players and multiple offenders should give the same treatment like "vac" banned players.

Last edited by Hellfox; Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:17am

BloodShed Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:20am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by BloodShed:
And how do you propose they do that?

In steam profile if you click on that persons profile name some has played under multiple names means he/she has multiple accounts. Steam knows that but allow it which give question why "vac" ban people if they allow them create multiple account and start over again.

So your insane logic is if a profile has gone under multiple names, they have multiple accounts?

Last edited by BloodShed; Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:20am

Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:21am

Originally posted by BloodShed:
Originally posted by Hellfox:

In steam profile if you click on that persons profile name some has played under multiple names means he/she has multiple accounts. Steam knows that but allow it which give question why "vac" ban people if they allow them create multiple account and start over again.

So your insane logic is if a profile has gone under multiple names, they have multiple accounts?

Read my post again I remove it because is not logic for answer.

Last edited by Hellfox; Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:28am

Crazy Tiger Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:27am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts

That's a big assumption. Any proof for that?

BloodShed Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:34am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by BloodShed:

So your insane logic is if a profile has gone under multiple names, they have multiple accounts?

Read my post again I remove it because is not logic for answer.

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by BloodShed:
And how do you propose they do that?

Steam should create seperate moderators department which only concentrate on trolls and multiple account on steam. I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts and forum banned players and multiple offenders should give the same treatment like "vac" banned players.

Stil doesn't give a clear answer.

And as Crazy Tiger has said, got any proof of that?

Gilga ™ |Yonaguni| Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:40am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Steam should create seperate moderators department which only concentrate on trolls and multiple account on steam. I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts and forum banned players and multiple offenders should give the same treatment like "vac" banned players.

You`re aware thats allowed to have as many accounts as you want, right?

And you really think your suggestion would stop trolling/cheating?

Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:40am

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Originally posted by Hellfox:
I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts
That's a big assumption. Any proof for that?

You expect people who is going said "i have multple account on steam". Having multple account on steam is not against the rules. Finding proof is difficult because people can share they account between familiy members or alt account for other reason.

Originally posted by Gilga ™:
Originally posted by Hellfox:
Steam should create seperate moderators department which only concentrate on trolls and multiple account on steam. I'm sure must players on discussions have multiple accounts and forum banned players and multiple offenders should give the same treatment like "vac" banned players.

You`re aware thats allowed to have as many accounts as you want, right?

And you really think your suggestion would stop trolling/cheating?

Nop because if you choose between money from cheaters/troll or limit the accounts. Steam will choose for the first and close they eyes for cheaters and trolls.

Last edited by Hellfox; Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:53am

Crazy Tiger Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:47am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
That's a big assumption. Any proof for that?

You expect people who is going said "i have multple account on steam". Having multple account on steam is not against the rules. Finding proof is difficult because people can share they account between familiy members or alt account for other reason.

So no proof and merely assumptions.

How do you propose Steam limits having multiple accounts? Without being a burden for people in the same household, for example.

Last edited by Crazy Tiger; Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:49am

Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 3:58am

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Originally posted by Hellfox:

You expect people who is going said "i have multple account on steam". Having multple account on steam is not against the rules. Finding proof is difficult because people can share they account between familiy members or alt account for other reason.
So no proof and merely assumptions.

How do you propose Steam limits having multiple accounts? Without being a burden for people in the same household, for example.

Je vraag altijd bewijzen. Ik verspil geen tijd aan mensen die domme vragen blijven stellen.

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Crazy Tiger Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:00am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
So no proof and merely assumptions.

How do you propose Steam limits having multiple accounts? Without being a burden for people in the same household, for example.

Je vraag altijd bewijzen. Ik verspil geen tijd aan mensen die domme vragen blijven stellen.

You know people can use translaters to know what you say, right?

When you make claims, you have to provide proof.

It also doesn't change that your suggestion is half-baked. So again, how do you propose Steam limits people having multiple accounts, without it being a burden to "legit" people? I know various people with multiple accounts and none of them partake in cheating or trolling, for example.

Last edited by Crazy Tiger; Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:03am

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BloodShed Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:01am

Originally posted by Hellfox:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
So no proof and merely assumptions.

How do you propose Steam limits having multiple accounts? Without being a burden for people in the same household, for example.

Je vraag altijd bewijzen. Ik verspil geen tijd aan mensen die domme vragen blijven stellen.

Then don't make stupid suggestions, if you don't like people asking for clarity and generally questioning the logic behind it.

Last edited by BloodShed; Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:02am

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Hellfox Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:09am

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Originally posted by Hellfox:

Je vraag altijd bewijzen. Ik verspil geen tijd aan mensen die domme vragen blijven stellen.
You know people can use translaters to know what you say, right?

When you make claims, you have to provide proof.

It also doesn't change that your suggestion is half-baked. So again, how do you propose Steam limits people having multiple accounts, without it being a burden to "legit" people?

Keep asking the same thing again and again. Proof for something you difficutl to proof. Same with cheaters and you need to claim that person she/he cheat otherwise no ban.

Last edited by Hellfox; Dec 19, 2020 @ 4:09am

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