actually punish ban evasion/alt abuse

[Espejismo]

what's the point of moderation if people just immediately circumvent their ban within minutes by logging into one of their countless alts?

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Would you care to extrapolate on WHY the account MrNewell123 exists?

I would assume, because the account was started, if one is posting on it, and it don't have all those numbers (as seen above), it likely means, they spent 5 usd on a game on that account. And have unlimited access.

And there may be, three others or 10 others, or 20. It only matters how many email and how much you want to spend.

Therefore, the OP has made a suggestion as to how mitigate alt tags, circumventing bans.

The first way you may want to do it, is don't make the alt tags available, at all. Or better yet, make money on them.

If they cannot do that given tech issues, or folks using VPNSs, that is for all you techies to figure out.

Have you forgotten that we're all painfully aware who is in current possession of the account MrNewell123? Zero need to use the third party, here.

Fyi, you "blocked" me roughly 2 years ago, had you forgotten?

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by MrNewell123:

I would assume, because the account was started, if one is posting on it, and it don't have all those numbers, it likely means, they spent 5 usd on a game on that account. And have unlimited access.

And there may be, three others or 10 others, or 20. It only matters how many email and how much you want to spend.

Therefore, the OP has made a suggestion as to how mitigate alt tags, circumventing bans.

The first way you may want to do it, is don't make the alt tags available, at all. Or better yet, make money on them.

If they cannot do that given tech issues, or folks using VPNSs, that is for all you techies to figure out.

You avoided the question.

You expected a different outcome?

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Truth:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Except your repeatedly ignoring that the alt accounts are not an issue. What the issue is when users use them to circumvent and avoid bans/punishment on their account, something I believe you yourself have bragged about in the past.

Well this was the answer...

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Would you care to extrapolate on WHY the account MrNewell123 exists?

Therefore, the OP has made a suggestion as to how mitigate alt tags, circumventing bans.

The first way you may want to do it, is don't make the alt tags available, at all. Or better yet, make money on them.

If they cannot do that given tech issues, or folks using VPNSs, that is for all you techies to figure out.

[xBCxRangers]

And i hoped that helped, and wish the OP the best of luck.

Enjoy all

[Sondardo]

There's some ways to diminish alts accounts bypassing bans.

One of them could be, that for an account to have the privilege to post on the forums, they must provide a valid smartphone number, that will receive a prompt from Steam to verify the number. And to avoid people creating burner temporary numbers, Steam can audit phone numbers once or twice a year, and failure to do so could mean revoking posting privileges.

They could do something similar for banking information or adresses, but I thought phone numbers would be easier and a little less intrusive than banking info. And some places, like Discord, require a phone number for the account, so this is not something new.

The point is, if alt accounts are obligated to provide phone numbers, which will hopefully mean they will have to provide the same number used with their main accounts, if one account tied with the phone numbers gets hit by a ban, all other accounts tied will as well.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

And i hoped that helped, and wish the OP the best of luck.

Enjoy all

Cue the backpedal.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Truth:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Except your repeatedly ignoring that the alt accounts are not an issue. What the issue is when users use them to circumvent and avoid bans/punishment on their account, something I believe you yourself have bragged about in the past clearly showing that its an issue that should be addressed.

You believe correctly.

[Truth]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

And i hoped that helped, and wish the OP the best of luck.

Enjoy all

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4406291673458741379/?ctp=7#c4406291873006425317

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

In fact, i'm gonna start using an alt, in so that i can go back to a clean slate, and use this tag for gaming.

Yes. this does help, its a good example of the issues with alt accounts and how one shouldn't be able to use one to get a clean slate and avoid responsibility for ones actions.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I would assume, because the account was started, if one is posting on it, and it don't have all those numbers (as seen above), it likely means, they spent 5 usd on a game on that account. And have unlimited access.

And there may be, three others or 10 others, or 20. It only matters how many email and how much you want to spend.

Therefore, the OP has made a suggestion as to how mitigate alt tags, circumventing bans.

The first way you may want to do it, is don't make the alt tags available, at all. Or better yet, make money on them.

If they cannot do that given tech issues, or folks using VPNSs, that is for all you techies to figure out.

Have you forgotten that we're all painfully aware who is in current possession of the account MrNewell123? Zero need to use the third party, here.

Fyi, you "blocked" me roughly 2 years ago, had you forgotten?

Oh that is not true Mr Da Pinchi. After all that was two years ago, and matters change.

I enjoy your posts very much. And please, keep up the good work

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I enjoy your posts very much. And please, keep up the good work

I mean you've blocked me and constantly respond so....

[76561199559798421]

I want to clarify this for everyone and why buying an account is dangerous, because steam does link accounts automatically, if the bought account has a vac ban for example or a high near intolerant community ban escalation it could effect any account that is loaded on the same steam device.

that being that your outstanding 20 year service account could become vac banned or community banned with never being punished or banned simply because you loaded a vac banned or community banned account onto your steam.

also resist the urge to allow friends to log into steam on your computer because of these same reasons

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Truth:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

And i hoped that helped, and wish the OP the best of luck.

Enjoy all

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4406291673458741379/?ctp=7#c4406291873006425317

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

In fact, i'm gonna start using an alt, in so that i can go back to a clean slate, and use this tag for gaming.

Yes. this does help, its a good example of the issues with alt accounts and how one shouldn't be able to use one to get a clean slate and avoid responsibility for ones actions.

It's always fun asking questions when you know the answer.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I want to clarify this for everyone and why buying an account id dangerous, because steam does link accounts automatically, if the bought account has a vac ban for example or a high near intolerant community ban escalation it could effect any account that is loaded on the same steam device.

that being that your outstanding 20 year service account could become vac banned or community banned with never being punished or banned simply because you loaded a vac banned or community banned account onto your steam.

They don't VAC ban accounts on the same device. They only VAC ban the account that broke the rules.

They don't community ban an account for being in the same computer either.

Otherwise my brother-in-law's account would've gotten a community ban when we loaded it on my desktop to play a game he owned but I didn't.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I want to clarify this for everyone and why buying an account id dangerous, because steam does link accounts automatically, if the bought account has a vac ban for example or a high near intolerant community ban escalation it could effect any account that is loaded on the same steam device.

Incorrect, bans only spread across linked accounts/mobile numbers at the time of the ban for programs such as VAC.

Other devs use stuff such that HWID bans though, and may flag a banned account signing into a clean HWID as "evasion" and thus might flag that HWID as need to ban as well.


See why we need to crack down on misinformation, folks?

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Everyone is Invited:

I want to clarify this for everyone and why buying an account is dangerous, because steam does link accounts automatically, if the bought account has a vac ban for example or a high near intolerant community ban escalation it could effect any account that is loaded on the same steam device.

That is completely false, VAC bans do not effect other accounts that are used on the same PC. They spread if the accounts are linked via phone number for instance.