"Build your own class" tag please?

[Prismwind]

Something I've noticed is that the "Character Customization" tag is way too broad, and there's a certain type of game that has no tag for it right now. The "Class based" tag feels like it implies the opposite of this type of game as well, even though it gets applied often, and Character Customization can often literally just mean their appearance and little to nothing for their skill set.

There are a number of good and well known games a "Build your own class" tag would describe a lot better than what we are using now... to list a few, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Dungeons of Dredmor, Enshrouded, Path of Exile, Starcrawlers: Chimera, Stolen Realm, and Dungeonmans. They all involve meaningful skill choices that inform what equipment you use and either your abilities or major factors in how your abilities work, but they also all give total freedom in how you build your character, allowing you to essentially "Build your own class".

I would love to see more users start applying this tag to games, it would make finding more of these kinds of games a lot easier both to buy and in my library.

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You can tag games.

[Nx Machina]

Start tagging and hope other users also do it although character customisation is inclusive of builds.

[Prismwind]

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

You can tag games.

I have been tagging. The problem is Steam won't show the tag until enough people also tag the game with it. If I'm the only one using this tag, the tag will never show up in lists or on store pages, enough other people have to apply it before Steam shows it. So I'm posting here, hoping people will use it now.

[Prismwind]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Start tagging and hope other users also do it although character customisation is inclusive of builds.

A) I have been tagging, but Steam won't show the tag on store pages until enough users start using it.
B) I mentioned Character Customization, and the problems with that tag. It doesn't help for every single game where I can make my character look different to be lumped together with the games where you're meaningfully creating a build of skills and abilities unrestricted by class.

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by Prismwind:

A) I have been tagging, but Steam won't show the tag on store pages until enough users start using it.

Obviously it needs to be popular.

Originally posted by Prismwind:

B) I mentioned Character Customization, and the problems with that tag. It doesn't help for every single game where I can make my character look different to be lumped together with the games where you're meaningfully creating a build of skills and abilities unrestricted by class.

Is customisation also not builds? Of course it is as you are defining what you want your character to be.

https://rpgoverload.com/18-rpgs-with-character-creation-and-customisation/

[Prismwind]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Obviously it needs to be popular.

Which is why I made the forum post, to try and get others to use it.

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Is customisation also not builds? Of course it is as you are defining what you want your character to be.

I feel like you're missing the point. It is, but it's also games where the only customization is appearance, or where you are locked into a narrow set of abilities by a class even though you get to chose what class to play. It includes games like Aska and Return to Moria, where all characters are functionally identical but you get to change your appearance. It includes most MMOs, where you do have builds but your available abilities are class locked and so is your equipment.

Your argument is basically "We don't need the Turn Based tag, we already have the RPG tag", or "We don't need the MOBA tag, we already have the PVP tag". Yes, we do, because DOTA is a VASTLY different experience from Team Fortress 2.

[Alexandra Lorular]

I mean I see the use cases, Character customization is to broad for what Prism is wanting, Dragon Age and Tales of Maj'eyal are two very different customization schemes.

If I was looking for a game where I pick skill trees instead of classes, I'd like a tag for that.

I honestly don't know what the tag could be, Build your own class sounds good. Might be to long for people though. Don't most tags take a Single or two Word approach?

[AustrAlien2010]

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

You can tag games.

Yes.
You can tag them. And we've never had so many editors frown at strange words, such as "zombies," "dragons," "anime" and what else not.
Before people start tagging anything, they need to think about it for a long, very long time.

But you are correct. The tag-system is made by you. Everybody can add tags, even if those tags don't make sense to you. It's a community effort. By the community, for the community.
I haven't added a single tag yet.