Force steam moderators to carry moderation tags

[76561199648916059]

Yes we are all aware of steam Moderators engaging dishonestly with steam customers and trying to chime into topics to slander and destroy them, mainly suggestions that would improve the moderation and allow steam to better control it's wild West gun slingers.

I mainly see well thought topics on this suggestion forum, however most topics are continuously ,attacked over and over again daily by the same groups of individuals, which to our overwhelming surprise seem to have formed some hidden agenda to control and manipulate steam forums.


Why I ask, who would do that, and is steam really to blame? My thoughts is yes, cause nobody else has anything to lose except steam, we are aware you do this steam, we just now simply want you to stop trying to hide it, be advised that the deceit creates a lack of trust, it's understandable you need to create a image for steam that empowers users to spend, however being honest with customers empowers the platform.

Steam you know who your undercover moderator accounts are, you remove bans from them all the time, start by having a little accountability and customers will applaud you for it.

[mldb88]

Mad Scientist の投稿を引用：

Nx Machina の投稿を引用：

Propaganda?

Ah! Conjecture, speculation and conspiracy threads. They definitely exist.

I notice a lot of conspiracies come from sources with huge amounts of earned moderation, or have a primary account that has a permanent community ban :BL3Shrug:

Yup, those with a revolving door relationship with moderation, or self proclaimed 50+ ban history, or mutliple sockpuppets used for ban evasion, the list goes on...

[76561197963519852]

eram の投稿を引用：

redacted の投稿を引用：

So when you were a vol. mod, were you ever aware of "sock" accounts made by other mods or users?

You mean killer having a 2nd account with the exact same name? Because there were no hidden alts.

What was the purpose of the second account?

[xBCxRangers]

redacted の投稿を引用：

eram の投稿を引用：

You mean killer having a 2nd account with the exact same name? Because there were no hidden alts.

What was the purpose of the second account?

To post here of course, to hide their identities, as they moderate us.

The reason you get these nonsensical bans, is not because you did anything wrong, but as a harassment technique to keep you off the forums.

[eram]

redacted の投稿を引用：

eram の投稿を引用：

You mean killer having a 2nd account with the exact same name? Because there were no hidden alts.

What was the purpose of the second account?

i honestly dont know and i never asked. Maybe he just wanted an account away from the normal moderation stuff. Seeing as it was the exact same name as the original and never tried to hide the fact i never saw it as an issue. None of the valve staff or the mods at the time were running about the forum on hidden alts.

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

redacted の投稿を引用：

What was the purpose of the second account?

To post here of course, to hide their identities, as they moderate us.

The reason you get these nonsensical bans, is not because you did anything wrong, but as a harassment technique to keep you off the forums.

this is of course nonsense. hiding their identities by using the same name.. Genius, almost.

My alt is called mare, its eram backwards.. or is mare backwards eram?

[mldb88]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

redacted の投稿を引用：

What was the purpose of the second account?

To post here of course, to hide their identities, as they moderate us.

The reason you get these nonsensical bans, is not because you did anything wrong, but as a harassment technique to keep you off the forums.

Again blatant lies with no evidence to support. Mods are legit call center equivalent working off tickets. All of this undercover mod nonsense is just smoke and mirrors to distract from the fact the ones spreading it refuse to acknowledge that their own consistent behavior is the problem.

[Mr. Smiles]

Another one of these?

Damn, forums be boring and trite lately.

Wake me when the next batch of alts drops.

[xBCxRangers]

We also have to be cognizant, you don't have to be going back and forth with them. They may not even be posting. They lurk our fora, and report what they see.

It seems Steams saves money by not having to hire proactive moderators as they do on the Hubs, and just use them as a way to proactively moderate us.

[Nx Machina]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

To post here of course, to hide their identities, as they moderate us.

Do you have any evidence to backup that claim?

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

The reason you get these nonsensical bans, is not because you did anything wrong, but as a harassment technique to keep you off the forums.

Ah! Yes the age old "I am not responsible for the words I choose to post, let me point the finger elsewhere".

[mldb88]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

We also have to be cognizant, you don't have to be going back and forth with them. They may not even be posting. They lurk our fora, and report what they see.

It seems Steams saves money by not having to hire proactive moderators as they do on the Hubs, and just use them as a way to proactively moderate us.

Again, any actual evidence of this? You’ve been spouting the same nonsense for months and have been unable to provide any proof, even pointing to specific users as “undercover mods”. Do you know what some might consider that? Slander.

Got some real McCarthyism going on in these boards, and we all know how well THAT turned out…

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Mr. Smiles の投稿を引用：

Another one of these?

Damn, forums be boring and trite lately.

Wake me when the next batch of alts drops.

Amen and hallelujah

[Angry Old Man]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

We also have to be cognizant, you don't have to be going back and forth with them. They may not even be posting. They lurk our fora, and report what they see.

It seems Steams saves money by not having to hire proactive moderators as they do on the Hubs, and just use them as a way to proactively moderate us.

Amen, they are everywhere and are friends with moderators and never are punished for their frequent rule violations

[76561199648916059]

I also have noticed a overly desperate attempt by some questionable steam accounts looking to discriminate and ban people for the most silliest of reasons , it really creates speculation into what kinda platform steam really is, it's not a game store, game stores wouldn't manipulate reviews and try to deceive customers for profits, at least not any game store making millions in profit.

Nobody needs steam, at the end of the day steam needs its contributing customers and enthusiastic gamers. As it always is the tighter steam clenches a fist the more it loses ahold on the situation.

I would suggest that anyone investing aggressively on steam avoid the forums all together, chances are if you have purchased 1000s or 10,000 games on steam it's very likely nothing said on this forum is going to change the excessive spending.

The forums are for people to converse about gaming, it shouldn't even be a place where we bring up questions into steam incompetence with moderation.

Absolutely nonsense that a company like valve can't get it together, and a platform like steam is trying to be so guarded over its customers opinions.

[Boblin the Goblin]

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

We also have to be cognizant, you don't have to be going back and forth with them. They may not even be posting. They lurk our fora, and report what they see.

It seems Steams saves money by not having to hire proactive moderators as they do on the Hubs, and just use them as a way to proactively moderate us.

No place has proactive moderation.

Unless of course someone tips off a mod about a user evading a permanent ban. Even then, they have to wait for that user to post on an alt before they can ban.

;)

[eram]

Majestically Awkward の投稿を引用：

I also have noticed a overly desperate attempt by some questionable steam accounts looking to discriminate and ban people for the most silliest of reasons , it really creates speculation into what kinda platform steam really is, it's not a game store, game stores wouldn't manipulate reviews and try to deceive customers for profits, at least not any game store making millions in profit.

Nobody needs steam, at the end of the day steam needs its contributing customers and enthusiastic gamers. As it always is the tighter steam clenches a fist the more it loses ahold on the situation.

I would suggest that anyone investing aggressively on steam avoid the forums all together, chances are if you have purchased 1000s or 10,000 games on steam it's very likely nothing said on this forum is going to change the excessive spending.

The forums are for people to converse about gaming, it shouldn't even be a place where we bring up questions into steam incompetence with moderation.

Absolutely nonsense that a company like valve can't get it together, and a platform like steam is trying to be so guarded over its customers opinions.

most of my games wont run without steam so yeah i kinda need it. :)

[xBCxRangers]

Boblin the Goblin の投稿を引用：

xBCxRangers の投稿を引用：

We also have to be cognizant, you don't have to be going back and forth with them. They may not even be posting. They lurk our fora, and report what they see.

It seems Steams saves money by not having to hire proactive moderators as they do on the Hubs, and just use them as a way to proactively moderate us.

No place has proactive moderation.

Unless of course someone tips off a mod about a user evading a permanent ban. Even then, they have to wait for that user to post on an alt before they can ban.

;)

The Hubs do. The moderators interact over there, and so they're proactive and not necessarily relying on reports, as compared to what they see.

That's what they had to do here, but that means hiring much more Valve personnel. And so, this doing things on the cheap.

But the gig is up, and moderation having to overturn their undercovers nonsensical bans. Being these hub moderators trying to treat these fora, as they do their game hubs, and one size don't fit all.