76561199648916059 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 5:24
Steam failing to impress as a paid for game store , do more to make steam worthy of purchases
The title says it all. Steam is just lacking on all levels as a paid for game store, high resource hogging software, toppled with over priced games, and a complete lack of ethical or morally correct company employees.

Things like defective hardware, scammy early access game micro transactions, and inventory trade scamming and steam wallet theft plague steam users that spend money.

The suggestion is to people to consider just using steam for free, it's a ok service as free, but as a pay platform it's just a disappointment.
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76561199648916059 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:39 
I have to agree I've played many games and 9/10 times the best games I've played are already free, this is the inspiration for the topic, yes you could buy them all but even with purchased games in my game list I often find myself enjoying the free games more
MonkehMaster 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:41 
im not talking about free (f2p) games, i find most free games arent worth downloading and are filled with cash shops, just not my thing.

but you like what you like :)
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:43
76561199648916059 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:52 
Even the paid for games seem to be full of cash shops now, there is no escaping micro transactions
MonkehMaster 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:53 
none of mine do, i actively avoid them, but if it does or adds one later, i dont spend a dime.
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:53
Ferox_Stormdragon 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 6:57 
Even the paid for games seem to be full of cash shops now, there is no escaping micro transactions

i have plenty of paid games in my steam library that have zero microtransactions
Sleepy Yoshi 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:26 
Whether free games are better than paid games is irrelevant to the platform itself. I've played some free games that are the best in their niche (fishing planet recently for example though 'free' is up for debate there) and paid games that blow away anything I've seen offered for free if there's even a free equivalent. Factorio as an example, I don't think there's anything free out there that is remotely comparable that offers that style of game play with that complexity and quality.

As far as does Steam actually provide me with services, outside of buying/playing games ofc, that I personally care a significant amount about. Well the answer is yes. I do make use of the parental controls which have gotten better in the beta combined with family share. I also personally use the guides section quite a bit and while the forums aren't a deal breaker I can't sit here and pretend like I'm not regularly active on them.

It's not the only platform that provides these things, but it is all in one package and overall the software itself has rarely lessened my experience doing the main thing it's for i.e. purchasing and playing games. There is of course always room for improvement and Valve can move quite slow in that regard at times. They've also made some moves over the years that were boneheaded imo, but if I had to summarise my experience in a single word it wouldn't be disappointed, it would be content. Of course I'm similarly content with GOG as well. Epic is the only platform really that I'd say the features (or lack thereof) and performance for me have leaned more into the negative then positive.*shrugs*
76561199648916059 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:33 
Sounds like those are non online games, I don't know of a single online multiplayer or mmorpg that doesn't have some form of micro transaction shop

If you spending money on steam for some single player off line game it's questionable why buy it on steam where you need to have steam running to play it, if it's truly a game you can play without steam running in the back ground.
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But again I don't really consider top notch game a single player offline experience any more, I suppose it's different tastes but I am pretty demanding when it comes to game quality I didn't get a computer to play 8 bit indy games that look like Nintendo 1990 knock offs

That's weird I just looked at factorio and the graphics didn't look impressive to the point at a glance I wouldn't even consider it for 10 dollars let alone 35. Plenty of simulation games that offer better graphics and play style, again different likes.

But Im unimpressed if your easily impressed, could explain why my opinion differs with so many. I didn't get a new computer to pay 35 dollars for a mine sweeper game

最后由 Majestically Awkward 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:39
MonkehMaster 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:34 
id rather play single player games, then waste money for online games filled with cheaters, or toxic mic spammers, ect..

also pixel games to me look way better than most of these other games with over done graphics and bad gamplay.

but thats me.
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:37
Knee 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 7:54 
Sounds like those are non online games, I don't know of a single online multiplayer or mmorpg that doesn't have some form of micro transaction shop
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76561199648916059 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 8:00 
Most likely why b4b failed to impress and ultimately failed, no micro transaction left the customer with limited growth within the game, they should of offered more skins and zombie control units for purchase along with weekly stage map or additional act content,.

Also It didn't help the fact it was left4deads repeated stages, witch really brought back some dejavu with users who realized the stages where comparison the same thing we all played in 2003 or 2004 when left 4 dead released
最后由 Majestically Awkward 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 8:03
Start_Running 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 8:25 
It's understandable that some of the games might be good, but the service under which they are offered is in question. While I will agree that some stop quality games appear on steam, I will also question as to why. The top quality games aren't coming from steam or valve, and steam as a store front seems to over all lack the real market for those top quality games to succeed.
if a game does well in sales, then it can reasonably considered 'top quality'.
That's basically the only objective measure of quality. And funnily enough, the only measure that matters to Valve, Developers, and Publishers.

I can't speak for a majority of people in the industry but steam is my last place I go looking to spend money on games. Truth be told there is already a large quality of free games both on steam and other platforms.
SO.. you can enjoy games without spending money, and the rest of us can enjoy those SAME games PLUS the ones you actually have to pay for. Seems alright from my end.

The big issue isn't with the games, it's with the service trying to sell them, I fail to see a reason to give steam money when the service is perfect as a free to use experience. If I'm trying to convince anyone it's myself, cause I don't see a lot of people on the platform. Those that I do see, seem to all play the same song and dance.
Yeah. Plenty of people on the platform m8. Sales figures don't lie. I mean Helldivers sold what 8 million copies on steam ...so there's at least 8 million peeps on the store.

Countless threads all over steam indicate something is wrong with the platform, it's a fair warning and one should know what they are getting involved in seeking a game from steam
There is nothing people won't complain about. L The thing is. Those are the minority. The Majority of the steam user base are having fun enjoying their games and the interactions with their friends in those games.

Does youre Mileage vary? That's YOUR issue and no one elses.
Sleepy Yoshi 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 8:34 

That's weird I just looked at factorio and the graphics didn't look impressive to the point at a glance I wouldn't even consider it for 10 dollars let alone 35. Plenty of simulation games that offer better graphics and play style, again different likes.

But Im unimpressed if your easily impressed, could explain why my opinion differs with so many. I didn't get a new computer to pay 35 dollars for a mine sweeper game

There aren't plenty of simulation games within that niche though. In fact I can only name 3 (of which one is Factorio) that are of a high enough quality you could compare them favourably to one another. As far as being easily impressed, that's not the case. It's a differing of perspective where I'm not as concerned with graphics as I am with the overall mechanics of a game and the complexity of those mechanics, particularly within simulation games.

Dwarf Fortress is another example that graphically....is very, very far from impressive yet, no matter how many colonist style sim's or god games I've played (and its a lot) I've never found anything remotely close to it's level of depth and complexity. There is an artistry in that, that I can appreciate. Don't get me wrong though I like graphically good looking games as well, it's just not my primary motivator for picking up a game.

As far as why buy games on Steam that are single player. I buy games wherever has the best deal. Sometimes that's Steam at the time I'm looking sometimes it's not. I personally don't care whether Steam, GoG Galaxy, Epic Game Store, Origin etc. are running in the background when I play a game. None of these make a noticeable difference in performance for me.
Ben Lubar 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 8:57 
Given that the OP hasn't spent $5 on Steam yet, I find it very unlikely that they have actually purchased "scammy early access games with microtransactions" or "defective hardware" and they're just trying to stir up trouble from nowhere.
Mad Scientist 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 9:12 
引用自 Ben Lubar
Given that the OP hasn't spent $5 on Steam yet, I find it very unlikely that they have actually purchased "scammy early access games with microtransactions" or "defective hardware" and they're just trying to stir up trouble from nowhere.
Given a previous stated intention, that would be correct.
Knee 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 9:29 
Most likely why b4b failed to impress and ultimately failed, no micro transaction left the customer with limited growth within the game, they should of offered more skins and zombie control units for purchase along with weekly stage map or additional act content
They did do that. There's 33 base maps. DLC added 11 more maps making it 44 in total + 7 non-campaign dependent hives making it 51, which includes more characters, a new difficulty, and a new mode that picks a random 4 maps in case a single campaign is too long.

This previous spring sale it was $6.99. The 3 DLC included with the base game was $10.
最后由 Knee 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 31 日 下午 9:32
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