Add an IQ test when registering a new account in Steam.
The proposal to add an IQ test when registering a new account in the Steam platform deserves attention. As a player who has multiple accounts both on Steam and other gaming services, I am faced with a situation where allies are not able to play as a team and communicate appropriately with fellow players. It is assumed that in case of an unsatisfactory result of the IQ test, Steam will prohibit the download of online games where the ability to play in a team is valued, such as Dota 2 and CS:GO (Valorant is not included in this category). At the same time, battle royales will be available, such as PUBG, and other similar games where a high level of intelligence is not required. This system will help players with low IQ avoid humiliation and additional stress in the gaming environment, allowing ordinary gamers to enjoy the game comfortably. I expect diverse opinions and comments on my statement. Every opinion is important and interesting to me. ❤️
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IQ tests tell us little about a person’s ability to communicate or cooperate.

Also, it is not exactly unusual for highly intelligent individuals to be socially withdrawn and problematic. Isaac Newton would never get in your game if it was possible to check for team and social skills with a predefined test.

Why so sure you would achieve the arbitrary baseline score anyway? People tend to overestimate their own intelligence, after all.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: metamec; 2024. máj. 15., 1:24
ai software like chatGPT can be used for IQ test questions

OP's suggestion is plainly full of loopholes
TimFrosti eredeti hozzászólása:
Add an IQ test when registering a new account in Steam.

The proposal to add an IQ test when registering a new account in the Steam platform deserves attention. As a player who has multiple accounts both on Steam and other gaming services, I am faced with a situation where allies are not able to play as a team and communicate appropriately with fellow players. It is assumed that in case of an unsatisfactory result of the IQ test, Steam will prohibit the download of online games where the ability to play in a team is valued, such as Dota 2 and CS:GO (Valorant is not included in this category). At the same time, battle royales will be available, such as PUBG, and other similar games where a high level of intelligence is not required. This system will help players with low IQ avoid humiliation and additional stress in the gaming environment, allowing ordinary gamers to enjoy the game comfortably. I expect diverse opinions and comments on my statement. Every opinion is important and interesting to me. ❤️
Gaming supposedly enhance one's ability to think and process, or at least maintain it. If someone was able to maneuver PC to get to playing a game, it is enough IQ to start and play it.

Valve is a company that wants to make money, not block people from paying them.

What you want OP, is not "help players with low IQ avoid humiliation and additional stress in the gaming environment", but purely on self-interest. Play ranked, you will still face such people regardless. IRL, you will face such people regardless. Just go live out on the woods. Problem solved.
Whether one thinks the IQ test gives insights into cognitive abilities or not doesn't really matter here, because what was put forth isn't in the domain of what the IQ tests for to begin with.

The IQ test does not test for things like interpersonal skills, emotional intelligence (putting aside the debate whether this is or isn't 'intelligence'), the ability to communicate socially, cooperate effectively with others etc. All that is to say an IQ score would have no bearing on whether someone was a good teammate, is toxic, and likely whatever else you're wanting to eliminate from your games.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: On Vacation; 2024. máj. 15., 4:36
I dont think my 86 would pass the test if steam forced us to do one :(
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Imagine thinking IQ and "playing nice" are linked...
facts, agreed tiger, even if this is a serious suggestion its super toxic... not at all playing nicely in my opinion.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Shinoskay; 2024. máj. 16., 12:00
"DCM" REAPER WOLF eredeti hozzászólása:
who is the instructor,and who grades the test and what happens if you fail,and how many times are you allowed to take the test?
Well, if the test is not passed, the person will not have access to online games. They will not be available. They will not show up in the Steam launcher.
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Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:
Imagine thinking IQ and "playing nice" are linked...
facts, agreed tiger, even if this is a serious suggestion its super toxic... not at all playing nicely in my opinion.
Sometimes you need to look at the world more soberly and fairly assess people's capabilities.
I find it funny you complaining about people lacking in IQ but you type a wall of text...
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"DCM" REAPER WOLF eredeti hozzászólása:
who is the instructor,and who grades the test and what happens if you fail,and how many times are you allowed to take the test?
Well, if the test is not passed, the person will not have access to online games. They will not be available. They will not show up in the Steam launcher.
Then when they sue Valve under the Americans with Disabilities Act, what happens next?
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Shinoskay eredeti hozzászólása:
facts, agreed tiger, even if this is a serious suggestion its super toxic... not at all playing nicely in my opinion.
Sometimes you need to look at the world more soberly and fairly assess people's capabilities.

Looking at the world more soberly doesn’t change the fact an IQ test does not test for the things you’re proposing are a supposed problem. Plain and simple.

What you’re really saying is “I don’t have a counter argument so I’m going to make this a you issue instead of admitting my idea to deal with being butthurt and blaming everyone else for my losses in team games is ♥♥♥♥”
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Shinoskay eredeti hozzászólása:
facts, agreed tiger, even if this is a serious suggestion its super toxic... not at all playing nicely in my opinion.
Sometimes you need to look at the world more soberly and fairly assess people's capabilities.
I think you should consider your own advice....

remember the golden rule, do unto others what you would have done unto you. And before you take that literally ("oh, I have high IQ so im good" I mean, by whos metric?) I mean consider how it would feel if there was a filter system for popularity or social generosity... would you want to be filtered out because of someone elses idea of what it takes to interact with others? Especially after you paid money for something thats suppose to allow you to interact with others as a standard feature?

thats the sober reality here.
TimFrosti eredeti hozzászólása:
Well, if the test is not passed, the person will not have access to online games. They will not be available. They will not show up in the Steam launcher.
The fact you're still entertaining the idea that people over a set IQ won't mess your online gaming experience is as charming as it is naive...
guys, I get its a toxic post but you all dont need to gang up and be toxic in turn. please consider being more kind.
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Shinoskay eredeti hozzászólása:
facts, agreed tiger, even if this is a serious suggestion its super toxic... not at all playing nicely in my opinion.
Sometimes you need to look at the world more soberly and fairly assess people's capabilities.

You haven't been able to put forth though how you're assessing people's capabilities in a manner that matters for gaming though. I already mentioned this, but I'll make elaborate further. The IQ test does have a verbal section. That includes verbal comprehension and working memory.

Verbal comprehension is made up of vocabulary, similarities, and overall comprehension. What it doesn't test for at all, is your ability to actually communicate with another human being. You can have an extensive vocabulary and understanding of a given language while still being an extremely poor communicator and/or socially inept. It's not hard to find extremely intelligent people, famous or otherwise, who fall into this category. You can also look at autism here. Now autism is a wide spectrum so this is not absolute and 100% varies in degree, however individuals that struggle with social interaction on the spectrum do not tend to do so because of their vocabulary which in some cases can be quite extensive. It's really the social cues, adherence to routines etc. that cause issue.

That leads to how you can have a limited vocabulary and still communicate very well in social settings, because your average conversation, especially in a game, doesn't require the level of verbal expertise that would be required in say an academic setting. A lot of communication is understanding social cue's, empathy, active listening etc. something which is not tested for at all through an IQ test.

There are in fact a long list of skills that the IQ test does not measure for that translate to doing well in a game like Dota. Teamwork, reflexes, fine motor skills, hand-eye coordination, adaptability, performance under varying levels of stress, attitude, experience, emotional resilience (this is a big one cause damn do people tilt), and on and on.
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