Games requiring third party accounts: A big no-no

[󠀡󠀡]

As a Steam user, I want to buy a game and play it right away. The last thing I want to do is having to give out my email and other personal information to a third party, create an account on some third party service, and having to keep track of the separate credentials.
Steam/Gabe/whoever, please, if you are listening, can you make it so that games can't require you to create a third party account?

[potato]

that will never happen

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by potato:

that will never happen

Not with that attitude.

[potato]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by potato:

that will never happen

Not with that attitude.

attitude has nothing to do with it

[Zarineth]

You can just not buy them. Adding artificial requirments would just make developers abandon Steam. You will still need the account to play those games, but you will have to aquire them on different stores.

I prefer those games to be here, so I can choose if I want to buy them or not.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Not with that attitude.

that will never happen please and thank you very much.
what will happen is each store page says if it requires another account.

Example
"Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/

Sony reversed the decision(you can see the update in the account linking announcement) and is supposedly working on getting that removed from the page.

[GodestLust]

I VOUCH FOR THIS IDEA IM TIRED OF LOGGING IN WITH UBISOFT OR ROCKSTAR GAMES!

[Zarineth]

Originally posted by poe-:

I VOUCH FOR THIS IDEA IM TIRED OF LOGGING IN WITH UBISOFT OR ROCKSTAR GAMES!

I am sure lack of GTA 5 on Steam would make you feel better... Especially that Rockstar hardly need more reach with how much people wait for GTA 6.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Not with that attitude.

attitude has nothing to do with it

It kind of does. If Valve had a different attitude, they might be willing to chase a huge quantity of games off of Steam in pursuit of something like this. GOG doesn't allow games with DRM, for example. That doesn't mean games remove their DRM to release on GOG, that means games with DRM simply don't go on GOG.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Sony reversed the decision(you can see the update in the account linking announcement) and is supposedly working on getting that removed from the page.

i dont care what a tweet says, i go by what they decided to use on the store page. maybe they will remove it, maybe not.

Considering the Tweet was from Sony themselves and gave the developers permission to strike out the original update text and put the tweet text at the top, it's pretty set in stone.

[potato]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

It kind of does.

it doesn't

these games would still require an account/launcher, you just won't be able to buy it on steam, like some ubisoft games that aren't on steam right now

valve restricting it would do nothing

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

It kind of does.

it doesn't

these games would still require an account/launcher, you just won't be able to buy it on steam, like some ubisoft games that aren't on steam right now

valve restricting it would do nothing

If you had to go directly to the third party, they're no longer a third party.

[cursed monkey's paw curls]

[potato]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by potato:

it doesn't

these games would still require an account/launcher, you just won't be able to buy it on steam, like some ubisoft games that aren't on steam right now

valve restricting it would do nothing

If you had to go directly to the third party, they're no longer a third party.

[cursed monkey's paw curls]

ok then op is free to buy those games on their respective stores

problem solved

[nullable]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

As a Steam user, I want to buy a game and play it right away. The last thing I want to do is having to give out my email and other personal information to a third party, create an account on some third party service, and having to keep track of the separate credentials.

Then do your research when buying games to see that the requirements are. If you feel that strongly and would rather not play an amazing game because of additional account requirements, that's your choice. No one need accommodate you.

Also adding a new entry in a password manager isn't some unbearable chore. Exaggerating the amount of effort doesn't make a lame argument a strong argument.

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Steam/Gabe/whoever, please, if you are listening, can you make it so that games can't require you to create a third party account?

No. Valve doesn't control other developer/publisher projects, and they've built a very successful platform based on that premise. Asking them to throw that out for your benefit is a non-starter. You can't leverage Steam to control publishers to behave the way you like. Everyone floats the idea because that's what they want, but Valve isn't playing that game and it's not likely to start.

[Shoobflops]

Non-steam games and console games don't belong on Steam in the first place and it would be a perfect scenario if they are just banned (sooner, rather than waiting for further disasters). But if these things are being wastefully welcomed on steam

We should be able to set a permanent filter so they do not even show up on steam in the first place.

Or steam should take charge and force these companies to align their product to be an actual steam game. No 3rd party agreements, No 3rd party anti-cheats VAC is superior and does not funnel data away from steam, and absolutely No 3rd party accounts.

We as customers should not have to manually clean up our own market pages.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

As a Steam user, I want to buy a game and play it right away. The last thing I want to do is having to give out my email and other personal information to a third party, create an account on some third party service, and having to keep track of the separate credentials.
Steam/Gabe/whoever, please, if you are listening, can you make it so that games can't require you to create a third party account?

As mentioned in many other threads about this same topic that you could have searched for and read before making this post, this won't happen because if Valve did it, every single game that requires it would just up and leave Steam for some other platform or sell on their own.

You can just simply read the store page BEFORE buying and not buy those games. If game adds it after the fact, raise a stink about it and ask for a refund even if you have lots of hours in the game. Don't be rude, to the Valve people, its not up to them in the end after the 14 days and 2 hour limit is hit. After that point all you can do is stop playing.

As someone who has been hit by something like this already, I stopped playing the game I really enjoyed. It means nothing to do as I'm only one person... but if 10s of thousands of people join in and follow through, maybe something would happen... I still doubt it.