Bring back Steam Greenlight

[Jepeto]

Steam Greenlight was one of Steam's best options to include games approved by the community and was a major reason Steam skyrocketed during those years the initiative was active. Steam Direct didn't solve any problems but mostly introduced lot's of rubbish content thus reducing the overall quality of the service. Bringing it back and giving power back to the community would make Steam a nice place again.

More info on Steam Greenlight: https://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/

[Crazy Tiger]

"Approved by the community" means little when the community voted for garbage. Besides, all games in Greenlight were supposed to get onto the store including the rubbish, it was a waiting line, not curation. All voting did was decide the order of the line.

Personally I'm much more in favor of Steam Direct. No waiting lines for games I like is a good thing in my book.

[Knee]

Steam skyrocketed during those years and for those reasons?

[Garbage]

God no

I campaigned 10 years ago to get rid of that garbage. I was celebratory when it was gone.

Do you know what happened during the first weeks of Greenlight? Half of the games which were approved were of the zombie shooter genre. Anything with an anime aesthetic was shot down. Later on, developers managed to bribe steam users with free copies of a game if they upvoted it on Greenlight.

It wasn't "by the people for the people"; it was a stupid committee of stupid people making stupid decisions on the behalf of everyone on Steam.

I'd rather a million more shovelware games than Greenlight back in action.

[Jepeto]

Maybe because the community wanted zombie shooters and not anime games at the time? Maybe because those so called anime game were rubbish? QoS is very important and I think Steam changed for the worse after introducing the 'let's add everything if they pay us 100$' mechanic.

[Zarineth]

I mean, last Steam Awards are a perfect example, why users shouldn't be able to vote on anything meaningful. Every such vote would be turned into popularity contest. I doubt there would be any increase in quality of games. Quite a contrary.

[Gwarsbane]

No thanks.

What happened was groups connected to the game made giveaways. "vote for our game in greenlight and we'll give a you a free key." or "a chance at a free key.

It wasn't because people wanted zombie shooters or anything like that.... the majority of stuff that got in was because of free game bribes. Its as simple as that.

Yes there was some that got in just because they were good, but more junk got in then good stuff.

The games were not curated by steam, they were suppose to be curated by the users voting yes or no. Never worked out that way though.

[Garbage]

No lie I think it'd be funny if Greenlight were brought back but only for AAA developers.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Ah yes Steam Greenlight, the only platform in existence that became the only place selling a anime-style game by a deranged man who got kicked off of all art sites at that time called School Shooting Simulator which basically involved more gore, death and blood then freaking Yandari Simulator or whatever that pedo game is called now and freaking Doomguy let loose in a school house combined could...

Ya no thanks.

[Jepeto]

From a developer's standpoint the existence of Steam Greenlight made you put lot's of effort on your content, in order to attract the community's attention. Now, you don't have to try at all because your game will get included anyway. This hurts us, players, in the long run since the amount of quality games is being reduced over time, many users are already complaining about not being able to find good games on the platform anymore. I understand that most people are quantity over quality but try to remember which years were your best on this platform. :)

[Garbage]

Originally posted by Jepeto:

From a developer's standpoint the existence of Steam Greenlight made you put lot's of effort on your content, in order to attract the community's attention. Now, you don't have to try at all because your game will get included anyway. This hurts us, players, in the long run since the amount of quality games is being reduced over time, many users are already complaining about not being able to find good games on the platform anymore. I understand that most people are quantity over quality but try to remember which years were your best on this platform. :)

Clearly not a single good game came out in 2023 ever.

Not a single one.

Records weren't broke by Palworld and Baldur's Gate 3. 2023 never happened.

[Jepeto]

Yeah, but only a handful of good games released on a single year isn't making the overall argument invalid, on the contrary, it proves that not many good games were released in 2023 and basically not after 2017 when Steam Direct got introduced. Valve gave in, under the pressure of all those wannabe developers that their games got rejected by the community because of low effort, and with a good reason I might add. For me, though, they shot themselves in the foot with Steam Direct and it definitely shows. Hundreds of rubbish content, hundreds of so-called devs, hundreds of wasted money by the end users. Steam Greenlight solved all this. Could Valve have improved upon it? Yes they could, but chose otherwise and either you like it or not this had a huge negative effect on the quality of games on the platform. :)

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Originally posted by Jepeto:

Yeah, but only a handful of good games released on a single year isn't making the overall argument invalid, on the contrary, it proves that not many good games were released in 2023 and basically not after 2017 when Steam Direct got introduced. Valve gave in, under the pressure of all those wannabe developers that their games got rejected by the community because of low effort, and with a good reason I might add. For me, though, they shot themselves in the foot with Steam Direct and it definitely shows. Hundreds of rubbish content, hundreds of so-called devs, hundreds of wasted money by the end users. Steam Greenlight solved all this. Could Valve have improved upon it? Yes they could, but chose otherwise and either you like it or not this had a huge negative effect on the quality of games on the platform. :)

It had thankfully zero impact because GameJolt and ItchIO exist for those people now and they don't have trolls who think an Active School Shooter game is the tops. That and Steam nukes stolen asset games along with stuff like that.

Saw some good games, to bad they were stolen from ItchIO and even a few from GameJolt..

[Jepeto]

Originally posted by Mischievous Sly Succubus:

Ah yes Steam Greenlight, the only platform in existence that became the only place selling a anime-style game by a deranged man who got kicked off of all art sites at that time called School Shooting Simulator which basically involved more gore, death and blood then freaking Yandari Simulator or whatever that pedo game is called now and freaking Doomguy let loose in a school house combined could...

Ya no thanks.

Maybe Steam Curators should had a bigger role to play in Steam Greenlight? This could have been an improvement to avoid such incidents. But one incident doesn't mean that they should have ditched the mechanic altogether. Now, any deranged man can put anything on the platform by just paying 100$. How is this more safe than the previous system?

[Garbage]

Originally posted by Jepeto:

Originally posted by Mischievous Sly Succubus:

Ah yes Steam Greenlight, the only platform in existence that became the only place selling a anime-style game by a deranged man who got kicked off of all art sites at that time called School Shooting Simulator which basically involved more gore, death and blood then freaking Yandari Simulator or whatever that pedo game is called now and freaking Doomguy let loose in a school house combined could...

Ya no thanks.

Maybe Steam Curators should had a bigger role to play in Steam Greenlight? This could have been an improvement to avoid such incidents. But one incident doesn't mean that they should have ditched the mechanic altogether. Now, any deranged man can put anything on the platform by just paying 100$. How is this more safe than the previous system?

Because Valve moderates what's put forth. Heck, there have been perfectly legitimate games such as Chaos;Head Noah which were rejected from Steam initially, despite games like Sex With Hitler being put on here.

Vote with your wallet and just let things fly.

[Jepeto]

Valve moderated stuff back when Steam Greenlight was active, as well. The game in question was taken down even after it was greenlit. The real question here is why should we, as end users, accept the reduction of the QoS without voicing any concerns...?