Platinum achievement but for steam

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Old thread got shut down but the suggestion is still relevant. I like to play games on the hardest difficulty, explore 9/10ths of the map/alternate routes and collect most of the optional items but I wouldn't say that I'm drawn to nabbing 100% of the achievements because some of them can be so stupid and tedious.

Recently I was looking at my platinum achievements ( Zero at the time ) and that made me go back and play a few last gen games and polish them off. If there was a platinum in steam I know i'd be more inclined here to do the same.

A platinum achievement would also be nice to keep DLCs from removing your '100% completion' from the base game.

[nullable]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

A platinum achievement would also be nice to keep DLCs from removing your '100% completion' from the base game.

I wouldn't assume that a system on a different platform is going to work identically to the system you think Valve should copy. You don' really have much to base that assumption off other than whimsy.

[Lar Dass]

Or better yet, dont let dlc achievements be a part of the achievements

[Start_Running]

Whether you play your game or not is really no concern to Steam. Devs can add a platinum achievement basically an achievement fior unlocking all the other cheevos

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

A platinum achievement would also be nice to keep DLCs from removing your '100% completion' from the base game.

I wouldn't assume that a system on a different platform is going to work identically to the system you think Valve should copy. You don' really have much to base that assumption off other than whimsy.

Out of the hundreds of games and thousands of achievements on steam, can you tell me of a single achievement that has been rescinded?

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Originally posted by nullable:

I wouldn't assume that a system on a different platform is going to work identically to the system you think Valve should copy. You don' really have much to base that assumption off other than whimsy.

Out of the hundreds of games and thousands of achievements on steam, can you tell me of a single achievement that has been rescinded?

Ask that question on the Counter-Strike 2 forum and you'll get a definitive answer.

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Whether you play your game or not is really no concern to Steam. Devs can add a platinum achievement basically an achievement fior unlocking all the other cheevos

Ive been with steam since day one, and every step of the way has been about increasing engagement with their ecosystem. They don't just compete with the big 3, they also have to compete with epic, gog and others.

Having all your achievements under one pc roof is just one more reason to buy with steam. I looked at my psn achievements and was surprised to see it go as far back as ps3 around 2012.

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Out of the hundreds of games and thousands of achievements on steam, can you tell me of a single achievement that has been rescinded?

Ask that question on the Counter-Strike 2 forum and you'll get a definitive answer.

Cool. So one game. That's been around +20 yrs.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Ask that question on the Counter-Strike 2 forum and you'll get a definitive answer.

Cool. So one game. That's been around +20 yrs.

You asked for a single example and one was given. How many examples do you actually want?

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Cool. So one game. That's been around +20 yrs.

You asked for a single example and one was given. How many examples do you actually want?

I think one example was given because it's the only example, and you really didn't even give that one example, you just told me to post somewhere else.

I personally don't care if you provide more examples but you jumped into the convo mid-way and it was about assumptions. I think 72,999 out of 73,000 is a pretty damn good percentage to make an "assumption" off of

[Start_Running]

That's for publishers to implement.
They can already do so

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

That's for publishers to implement.
They can already do so

Clearly it depends on the platform as Sony has more involvement in it than Steam does and all it would take for Steam to change is for Gabe to see value in it.

The value is providing one more engagement point where people want to stay with Steam as opposed to say, Epic, EA, GoG, etc.

I swear, you guys like arguing for the sake of it. What is the downside to the suggestion?

[BJWyler]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

That's for publishers to implement.
They can already do so

Clearly it depends on the platform as Sony has more involvement in it than Steam does and all it would take for Steam to change is for Gabe to see value in it.

The value is providing one more engagement point where people want to stay with Steam as opposed to say, Epic, EA, GoG, etc.

I swear, you guys like arguing for the sake of it. What is the downside to the suggestion?

The downside is having yet another platform dictate minute details to developers and publishers. We don't need to make PC more like consoles. The PC is an open platform, and to stay true to that spirit is leaving as much to developers and publishers to decide what they implement for their products and where. And for the storefronts to focus on being storefronts, and not being awarders.

[FuNkDr.SpOt]

Originally posted by BJWyler:

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Clearly it depends on the platform as Sony has more involvement in it than Steam does and all it would take for Steam to change is for Gabe to see value in it.

The value is providing one more engagement point where people want to stay with Steam as opposed to say, Epic, EA, GoG, etc.

I swear, you guys like arguing for the sake of it. What is the downside to the suggestion?

The downside is having yet another platform dictate minute details to developers and publishers. We don't need to make PC more like consoles. The PC is an open platform, and to stay true to that spirit is leaving as much to developers and publishers to decide what they implement for their products and where. And for the storefronts to focus on being storefronts, and not being awarders.

Nothing you stated is a single downside. If PS already does it, it's not any type of relevant issue for the devs. Again, you're just arguing for the sake of it. This isn't an issue for devs. Hell, it's not even one they need to implement. Steam could and it wouldn't even take a day. Not like they're working on HL3. If the devs gave us a top 10 of their biggest issues, achievements wouldn't even be mentioned. #1 would be the hours and deadline grind, #2 would be Negative/toxic players like some of you.

PC being an open platform has nothing to do with this issue. They're already doing achievements. How does this make PC less open? It doesn't. Again, just a pedantic argument.

Steam has been more than a storefront for more than a decade. This forum. Friend lists. Personalized profile pages, etc. And again, they already have achievements.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Originally posted by BJWyler:

The downside is having yet another platform dictate minute details to developers and publishers. We don't need to make PC more like consoles. The PC is an open platform, and to stay true to that spirit is leaving as much to developers and publishers to decide what they implement for their products and where. And for the storefronts to focus on being storefronts, and not being awarders.

Nothing you stated is a single downside. If PS already does it, it's not any type of relevant issue for the devs. Again, you're just arguing for the sake of it. This isn't an issue for devs. Hell, it's not even one they need to implement. Steam could and it wouldn't even take a day. Not like they're working on HL3. If the devs gave us a top 10 of their biggest issues, achievements wouldn't even be mentioned. #1 would be the hours and deadline grind, #2 would be Negative/toxic players like some of you.

PC being an open platform has nothing to do with this issue. They're already doing achievements. How does this make PC less open? It doesn't. Again, just a pedantic argument.

Steam has been more than a storefront for more than a decade. This forum. Friend lists. Personalized profile pages, etc. And again, they already have achievements.

Chasing developers off of the platform by adding arbitrary requirements about what kinds of achievements a game is required to have doesn't sound like "not an issue" to me.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by FuNkDr.SpOt:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Whether you play your game or not is really no concern to Steam. Devs can add a platinum achievement basically an achievement fior unlocking all the other cheevos

Ive been with steam since day one, and every step of the way has been about increasing engagement with their ecosystem. They don't just compete with the big 3, they also have to compete with epic, gog and others.

Having all your achievements under one pc roof is just one more reason to buy with steam. I looked at my psn achievements and was surprised to see it go as far back as ps3 around 2012.

Yeah but your achievements aren't going to be under one big roof. As said. This feature already exists. Developers need to be the ones to implement it. and to be fair the idea is pretty pointl;ess in the PC gameing sphere. I mean You couyld have a plat achievement for a game today and it could go poof when you wake up tomorrow because the released a dlc, or hjust plain up and decided to add a couple dozen more achievements to the base game.

This is why that's better implemented on the dev side of things since they can better account for that.

If Valve does it then Valve has to deal with the headache of people whining about the platinum, trophy going bye bye because the stupid dev hade the NERVE to add MORE CONTENT.