Kanye X Gaben.

[FOXDUDE69]

As we all know, Valve used to make good games like Left 4 Dead 2, Portal and the other one, but in the last decade they've done nothing noteworthy on the game side of things. Updating DOTA 2 and CSGO from time to time might keep those specific fanbases relatively satisfied (even though the content Valve releases for those games pales in comparison to the quality and quantity of content other live service pvp games receive), but for the rest of Valve fans... We still waiting for that filet mignon.

Kanye, the most creative, talented and prolific artist of our time, would be just the right kind of person to kick Valve out of that state of lethargy they find themselves in.

Even though Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal are not absolute masterpieces the way The Life of Pablo and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are, Kanye's creative genius would be just the kinda of thing that Valve needs to elevate their next game(s) to the status of Masterpiece and finally have a Valve title that you can mention in the same sentence as the true greats like Super Mario Odyssey, Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 3.

To clarify, I'm not saying Kanye should just do the music, I'm saying he should have full creative control over story, gameplay, artstyle, everything.

Kanye justifiably considers himself the new Picasso.
Can he also be the new Kojima?
Valve has the ability to answer that question for us.

[Boblin the Goblin]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

brian9824 a écrit :

I'd disagree with you, you are suggesting Kanye would be good to represent Steam. You have also claimed Elon Musk has excellent leadership qualities and would be a great person to manage steam and be a new owner.

Go talk about Elon on the Elon thread then.

This thread is about Kanye. There is not a single mention of Elon on the original post.

Please stick to the topic. It's not hard.

Yes, let's stick to the topic.

Why so much support for a vocal anti-semite to work with Valve?

[Brian9824]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

Please stick to the topic. It's not hard.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63826675

Yep its not hard to stick to the topic

Elon Musk suspends Kanye West from Twitter for inciting violence

Kanye West has been suspended from Twitter and accused of "inciting violence" over offensive tweets - just two months after his last ban.

The US rapper, who now goes by the name Ye, posted a series of erratic tweets - one of which appeared to show a symbol combining a swastika and a Jewish star.

Twitter's new boss Elon Musk was asked by one user to "fix Kanye".

West had "violated our rule against incitement to violence", Musk tweeted.

"Account will be suspended," Musk wrote in a Twitter post.

So again, as you've been repeatedly asked, why would someone who is routinely banned for violence, hate speach, and supporting nazi's be a good person for steam to collaborate with?

[Mad Scientist]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

brian9824 a écrit :

I'd disagree with you, you are suggesting Kanye would be good to represent Steam. You have also claimed Elon Musk has excellent leadership qualities and would be a great person to manage steam and be a new owner.

Go talk about Elon on the Elon thread then.

This thread is about Kanye. There is not a single mention of Elon on the original post.

Please stick to the topic. It's not hard.

It's entirely contextually relevant as such previous advocating of 'musk should acquire twitter' aligns with the fact even musk removed kanye from his platform, plus they were clearly discussing the thread. This seems to be bad faith, they did stay on the topic and brought up that kanyes alignment with anti-semitic beliefs in addition to neo-nazi alignments is not a suitable fit to work with Valve, especially given they delete accounts that have so much as promoted such things for TF2 item names.

brian9824 a écrit :

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

President Trump and Mr. Musk have nothing to do with the suggestion of a partnership between Kanye and Valve.

I'd disagree with you, you are suggesting Kanye would be good to represent Steam. You have also claimed Elon Musk has excellent leadership qualities and would be a great person to manage steam and be a new owner. The two claims you have made contradict each other greatly.

So again, if Musk has such great leadership qualities why would you suggest someone he has banned from his sites to represent Steam? I mean even if you no longer feel Musk is a good person, Kanye's repeated violent and racist rhetoric is not a good fit for steam.

Musk and Kanye are both public figuires just like Kanye who all share the common trait of whatever they touch turns to crap and falls apart because just like Kanye they have made repeated racist and violent tirades that alienate users.

Again, I understand you don't like your suggestions having the flaws in them exposed but its a normal part of discourse. If you don't have anything to counter the points thats understandable as its hard to defend someone like kanyewho openly praises nazi's and spreads violent speech.

Kanye, Musk, Trump all share the common traits in that they will alienate a large portion of the Steam user base, hence why they are used in comparisons with each other do to their similarities. I am quite familiar with the rules, such as knowing there are no rules against political discussions which many users are unfamiliar with as they do not know the rules.

I'm curious as you've refused to answer the question. Why do you think someone who expresses his love of Nazi's and Hitler would be a good person to represent Steam. Don't you think that would offend a lot of users?

I highlighted where they were clearly on topic, so to continue;

They clearly were on-topic, I would strongly advise against trying to backseat moderate people multiple times that have remained entirely on topic as it may come across as trying to pick fights.

[FOXDUDE69]

I'm done engaging with people repeatedly attempting to derail the thread.

I tried to politely ask them to stay on point.

Anyway, I'd like to see Kanye try his hand at an open world RPG. What game genre would other users want to see him tackle?

[Brian9824]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

I'm done engaging with people repeatedly attempting to derail the thread.

I'd like to see Kanye try his hand at an open world RPG. What game genre would other users want to see him tackle? :smile_bod:

So again, why won't you answer the simple question.

Why do you think someone who expresses his love of Nazi's and Hitler would be a good person to represent Steam. Don't you think that would offend a lot of users?

I mean if you can't even answer that basic question then it sounds like your idea is dead.

Asking why you'd support the person you want to represent steam is directly on topic, you just keep refusing to answer why Steam should work with a Nazi supporter who praises Hitler.

Someone who was so toxic they've been repeatedly banned from Twitter by Musk for inciting violence and racist posts

[Mad Scientist]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

I'm done engaging with people repeatedly attempting to derail the thread.

I tried to politely ask them to stay on point.

Anyway, I'd like to see Kanye try his hand at an open world RPG. What game genre would other users want to see him tackle? :smile_bod:

They are and have remained on topic, it seems bad faith to accuse them of being off-topic especially when I had to highlight numerous examples of them clearly discussing the subject, and bringing up relevant context related to that, then proceeding to take on the biggest issue with the suggestion.

So the question is, why would they want someone like kanye west to have anything to do with Valve if it would bring extreme negative press by aligning with anti-semitic and neo nazi beliefs when they ban anyone promoting neo-nazi beliefs from Steam?

[Boblin the Goblin]

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

I'm done engaging with people repeatedly attempting to derail the thread.

I tried to politely ask them to stay on point.

Anyway, I'd like to see Kanye try his hand at an open world RPG. What game genre would other users want to see him tackle? :smile_bod:

Still haven't addressed Kanye's anti-Semetic comments. Which are directly on topic since they are directly about Kanye.

[76561197960287930]

Mad Scientist a écrit :

So the question is, why would they want someone like kanye west to have anything to do with Valve if it would bring extreme negative press by aligning with anti-semitic and neo nazi beliefs when they ban anyone promoting neo-nazi beliefs from Steam?

Really? That's not what ADL ORG thinks about Steam 2020.
/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists

[Boblin the Goblin]

76561197960287930 a écrit :

Mad Scientist a écrit :

So the question is, why would they want someone like kanye west to have anything to do with Valve if it would bring extreme negative press by aligning with anti-semitic and neo nazi beliefs when they ban anyone promoting neo-nazi beliefs from Steam?

Really? That's not what ADL ORG thinks about Steam 2020.
/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists

Ah, the ADL.

Weird how when those groups were reported on, Valve removed them. Makes you think they people that had searching for those groups(because they were small) didn't bother to properly report them before releasing the article.

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

SlowMango a écrit :

FOXDUDE69 a écrit :

I'm done engaging with people repeatedly attempting to derail the thread.

I tried to politely ask them to stay on point.

Anyway, I'd like to see Kanye try his hand at an open world RPG. What game genre would other users want to see him tackle? :smile_bod:

Still haven't addressed Kanye's anti-Semetic comments. Which are directly on topic since they are directly about Kanye.

He's not going to address it because it's inconvenient to his suggestion.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

So in short from OP post, asking valve to hire Kanye to make a game for them, which why? And why does it have to be Kanye specifically?

[Mad Scientist]

76561197960287930 a écrit :

Mad Scientist a écrit :

So the question is, why would they want someone like kanye west to have anything to do with Valve if it would bring extreme negative press by aligning with anti-semitic and neo nazi beliefs when they ban anyone promoting neo-nazi beliefs from Steam?

Really? That's not what ADL ORG thinks about Steam 2020.
/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists

ADL has been known to wrongfully label people & companies, additionally they make accusations by material not being removed quickly enough for their liking or being present once.

I have reported actual neo-nazi accounts and they were deleted from minutes to hours. I can count the number of such accounts on a single hand, to give you an idea of the rarity of such on Steam.

This is still side-stepping that kanye is well known to make anti-semitic statements and align with neo-nazis, so the question still remains "Why should Valve associate with this?"

[Brian9824]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 a écrit :

So in short from OP post, asking valve to hire Kanye to make a game for them, which why? And why does it have to be Kanye specifically?

One can't help but wonder if Kanye's known ties and praise of Nazi and other hate groups is the actual reason why he wants a game from Kanye. I can't think of any other reason why the OP would keep ignoring honest discussion and refusing to acknowledge what is public knowledge in that he has routinely praised Nazi's and Hitler while insulting the jewish people.

Its sad because I can't help but think what jesus and other christians would say to something like that. I mean i'd love to hear the reasons why, but that would requier the OP actually answer the question as to why steam should work with someone who has ties to Nazi's and repeatedly praises them.

[FOXDUDE69]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 a écrit :

So in short from OP post, asking valve to hire Kanye to make a game for them, which why? And why does it have to be Kanye specifically?

Kanye has a remarkable creative mind and creativity is just what the AAA industry needs right now.

[FOXDUDE69]

76561197960287930 a écrit :

Mad Scientist a écrit :

So the question is, why would they want someone like kanye west to have anything to do with Valve if it would bring extreme negative press by aligning with anti-semitic and neo nazi beliefs when they ban anyone promoting neo-nazi beliefs from Steam?

Really? That's not what ADL ORG thinks about Steam 2020.
/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists

Yikes! Looks like Steam needs to clean up their image a bit.

A new videogame with Ye at the helm would be great for Valve's PR (and pockets).