New tags for games, please

[bigbishounen]

Specifically, I would like to see tags related to the following:

1. Third Party Network Account
2. Third Party Launcher
3. Third Party DRM

This would allow gamers to filter out any games with these things present.

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

If we can filter out adult content or violent content, we should be able to filter out other potentially unwanted things in our games.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

New tags for games, please

Specifically, I would like to see tags related to the following:

1. Third Party Network Account
2. Third Party Launcher
3. Third Party DRM

This would allow gamers to filter out any games with these things present.

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

If we can filter out adult content or violent content, we should be able to filter out other potentially unwanted things in our games.

Those aren't Tags.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

Specifically, I would like to see tags related to the following:

1. Third Party Network Account
2. Third Party Launcher
3. Third Party DRM

This would allow gamers to filter out any games with these things present.

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

If we can filter out adult content or violent content, we should be able to filter out other potentially unwanted things in our games.

Third Party Network Account = Steam

Third Party Launcher = Steam

Third Party DRM = Steam

So every single game not made by Valve would have to have these meaning you would not be able to filter anything out, so this means Steam is the 3rd party.

External account
Extra Launcher
Alt DRM

Those are more what they should be, but users create the tags so start putting them on games and hope it catches on, but I doubt they will last long, they don't seem to allow tags that would be negative for a game, which these would be.

So best you can do is what we have now, look at the games store page, and then ignore any that has stuff that you don't want.

[Ogami]

Also all those things, "needs 3rd party client" "extra DRM" "needs additional account" and so on are already listed under game features on the store page.
Like here: https://prnt.sc/em8TiUgwLg9j

Adding them double with tags is not really useful.

[HikariLight]

They don't need tags as that info is displayed on the right side of the games store page.

[cheep crybabby hatter]

Good idea. Publishers are not always open about these things (e.g. Code:Vein still has Denuvo and doesn't disclose it). This is where user tags could come in handy, and indeed, filtering said tags could be useful.

[かぐや]

Originally posted by cheep crybabby hatter:

Good idea. Publishers are not always open about these things (e.g. Code:Vein still has Denuvo and doesn't disclose it). This is where user tags could come in handy, and indeed, filtering said tags could be useful.

They do. CODE VEIN have Denuvo "warning" in EULA.

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

New tags for games, please

Specifically, I would like to see tags related to the following:

1. Third Party Network Account
2. Third Party Launcher
3. Third Party DRM

This would allow gamers to filter out any games with these things present.

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

If we can filter out adult content or violent content, we should be able to filter out other potentially unwanted things in our games.

Those aren't Tags.

:winterbunny2023:

I know. They need to be. Thus the request.

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

Specifically, I would like to see tags related to the following:

1. Third Party Network Account
2. Third Party Launcher
3. Third Party DRM

This would allow gamers to filter out any games with these things present.

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

If we can filter out adult content or violent content, we should be able to filter out other potentially unwanted things in our games.

Third Party Network Account = Steam

Third Party Launcher = Steam

Third Party DRM = Steam

So every single game not made by Valve would have to have these meaning you would not be able to filter anything out, so this means Steam is the 3rd party.

External account
Extra Launcher
Alt DRM

Those are more what they should be, but users create the tags so start putting them on games and hope it catches on, but I doubt they will last long, they don't seem to allow tags that would be negative for a game, which these would be.

So best you can do is what we have now, look at the games store page, and then ignore any that has stuff that you don't want.

Well, third party other than Steam.

But whatever, as long as you support the general idea, we can work out the semantics later.

Cheers!

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

They don't need tags as that info is displayed on the right side of the games store page.

You...

you didn't read the WHOLE post, did you?

Yes, I realize that "you could just read the description" but you could do that for ANYTHING that has a tag for it. The filter system is there so you can either find things you want or remove things you don't want in a semi-automated manner.

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Also all those things, "needs 3rd party client" "extra DRM" "needs additional account" and so on are already listed under game features on the store page.
Like here: https://prnt.sc/em8TiUgwLg9j

Adding them double with tags is not really useful.

It is if you want to filter them out automatically.

You can only filter using tags. Listings under the game features aren't something you can auto-filter by.

I want to be able to make any games with those things just vanish from Steam as though they don't exist through the use of filters. That's why Steam has them. So you can include or exclude games based on various criterion.

As I noted previously. Anything that is currently a tag you could also just look up yourself by reading the description. They are ALL already a "duplication" using your metric.

The point is to be able to engage the filtration system in a way that we can't right now.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Those aren't Tags.

I know. They need to be. Thus the request.

They're not going to be appropriate approved tags.

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

I know. They need to be. Thus the request.

They're not going to be appropriate approved tags.

:cool_seagull:

I don't see why. Those are game features. You can already filter by game features using the tags. Fits perfectly.

We don't get something we don't ask for.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

They're not going to be appropriate approved tags.

I don't see why. Those are game features. You can already filter by game features using the tags. Fits perfectly.

We don't get something we don't ask for.

Those aren't game features.

[bigbishounen]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

I don't see why. Those are game features. You can already filter by game features using the tags. Fits perfectly.

We don't get something we don't ask for.

Those aren't game features.

:cool_seagull:

Yes, they are. They are in the features and description section.

It's weird how you are being so negative on this. Especially given your 0 level account.

Seems to me you are trolling. Please leave this discussion.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by bigbishounen:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Those aren't game features.

Yes, they are. They are in the features and description section.

It's weird how you are being so negative on this. Especially given your 0 level account.

Seems to me you are trolling. Please leave this discussion.

What you are referring to aren't Steamworks Features. That is the "3rd party DRM section" as shown at the 9 minute mark here...

https://youtu.be/lU1SFAa3QqM?si=NjcGMZgBG3O68N9O&t=540

Also, all friends only and private profiles hide levels due to the privacy settings.

Levels mean NOTHING!