Full block needed when blocking a user

[❄️The Last Frontier 😊]

So I had this player the other day that I let join my world in a game I play. Turned out was a mistake as the user became annoying very fast so I told him I was going to remove him and after that he got abusive in nature so I blocked him fully.

Shortly after that I started getting alot of clown rewards given to alot of my posts and have to assume being it is the same game and the number of rewards that is being given that it is this same user now abusing the reward system to harass me.

Being I have the guy blocked there really needs to be a way to fully 100% block the user that includes their ability to send rewards to the person that blocked them.

So I suggest that rewards be added to the blocked features when a user blocks a player that player can't communicate including sending rewards of an abusive nature to the user.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

I don't see an issue with extending the block feature to prevent people that you've blocked from giving your content awards. I'm also in the 'awards removed entirely' camp as the most preferable solution though.

[Ettanin]

Awards yes, topics/replies, no. You shouldn't be able to control what someone else posts.

[Pipe]

Originalmente postado por Elation:

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if you really want to get that last word, you can just edit your last comment to them before they blocked you. I see that happen often over there

also thankfully, unlike here, spreading misinformation is actually against the rules. they'll get reported by other users

I don't think I understand your last point. you can't interact with someone you blocked. and I don't know how they're avoiding moderation

[Nx Machina]

If you deem the Jester as being:

Originalmente postado por ❄️The Last Frontier 😊:

of an abusive nature to the user.

And:

Originalmente postado por ❄️The Last Frontier 😊:

as the clown icon is pretty much the insult icon on steam.

Why did you give 2 Jester awards?

[Tito Shivan]

Originalmente postado por Pipe:

the block feature over there teaches people to behave, and it does a better job at that than the steam mods here

The Steam mods aren't here to teach people.

Originalmente postado por Elation:

I really don't think it teaches people to behave at all.

For a large amount of people, blocking someone is some sort of 'gotcha' movement. A punch back to the person they're blocking and with whom they're still going to interact in the future despite being 'blocked'.

Originalmente postado por Elation:

I can argue in the opposite direction. When you have a block feature like this that prevents the other person from participating, they are free to block you and then start using that same tactic to avoid moderation to continue "harassing" you, except this time there is literally no recourse for you because you are blocked from responding at all.

This is one piece of info I've been trying to get through some people's thick skulls with no avail.
It's asymmetrical warfare and you're on the losing end of the stick. You're bound to be blocked (thus forbbiden) from more places than you are forbidding people to.

"But I don't care if people block me from their threads..." oh boy will you.

Originalmente postado por Sleepy Yoshi:

I don't see an issue with extending the block feature to prevent people that you've blocked from giving your content awards.

I would remove awards completely if it depended on me. It's the second most toxic angagement mechanic since Steam asked people to post on the forums for a badge.

[Elation]

Originalmente postado por Pipe:

Originalmente postado por Elation:

snip

if you really want to get that last word, you can just edit your last comment to them before they blocked you. I see that happen often over there

True, you can do that.

Originalmente postado por Pipe:

also thankfully, unlike here, spreading misinformation is actually against the rules. they'll get reported by other users

Yeah, it isn't against the rules here which is my point against allowing people to have that power here.

Originalmente postado por Pipe:

I don't think I understand your last point. you can't interact with someone you blocked. and I don't know how they're avoiding moderation

My point is that whatever you mean by "harassing" someone on here while doing it in a way that avoids moderation means that someone could continue to attack you indirectly without you being able to reply if they block you. And sure, in a specific thread you can edit your post to mention that they blocked you but that obviously wouldn't work in future threads or if the person blocking you created a thread themselves.

[bluesky66621]

Originalmente postado por Tito Shivan:

Originalmente postado por ?legit:

Agreed. I also think that blocked persons should entirely disappear from each other, so that they can't reply anymore.

As long as one of them has a public profile or posts content publicly there's no real way to achieve it.

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

If you see the way twitter and Facebook style of blocking. You would understand why. I support the OP's suggestion. It's time for steam to have a fully blocking figure in line with other social media on the internet.

Note the only really effective way to block people out of your content on Twitter is for you to actually go full locked/private account. People routinely go around blocks on Twitter by reading the content not logged or through alt accounts and quoting blocked user's tweets through screenshots.

As long as the content you post is public, you're not going to effectively be able to block people from reading and interacting with that content. Only making your content private and you being the sole individual who decides who sees what is

I dont understand the pushback of blocking figure for steam. Facebook, Twitter and Reddit had it almost 20 years now without a problem.

It's long overdue for steam to provide the same figure as those social media websites. In respect to twitter and Facebook, it alot harder to just create another account or using alts.

Not at all, full blocking figure prevents you from even seeing the person's comments. It as if the user never existed.

There's also legal liabilities and a reason why blocking figure is so important to any social media, newspaper, news sites, and etc. As other said, stalking, harassment, threats, scams, spams, and etc is the major reasons why those sites provide full blocking figure to protect users while using their website.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

Originalmente postado por Tito Shivan:

As long as one of them has a public profile or posts content publicly there's no real way to achieve it.


Note the only really effective way to block people out of your content on Twitter is for you to actually go full locked/private account. People routinely go around blocks on Twitter by reading the content not logged or through alt accounts and quoting blocked user's tweets through screenshots.

As long as the content you post is public, you're not going to effectively be able to block people from reading and interacting with that content. Only making your content private and you being the sole individual who decides who sees what is

I dont understand the pushback of blocking figure for steam. Facebook, Twitter and Reddit had it almost 20 years now without a problem.

It's long overdue for steam to provide the same figure as those social media websites. In respect to twitter and Facebook, it alot harder to just create another account or using alts.

Not at all, full blocking figure prevents you from even seeing the person's comments. It as if the user never existed.

There's also legal liabilities and a reason why blocking figure is so important to any social media, newspaper, news sites, and etc. As other said, stalking, harassment, threats, scams, spams, and etc is the major reasons why those sites provide full blocking figure to protect users while using their website.

There is no legal liability.

[bluesky66621]

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

I dont understand the pushback of blocking figure for steam. Facebook, Twitter and Reddit had it almost 20 years now without a problem.

It's long overdue for steam to provide the same figure as those social media websites. In respect to twitter and Facebook, it alot harder to just create another account or using alts.

Not at all, full blocking figure prevents you from even seeing the person's comments. It as if the user never existed.

There's also legal liabilities and a reason why blocking figure is so important to any social media, newspaper, news sites, and etc. As other said, stalking, harassment, threats, scams, spams, and etc is the major reasons why those sites provide full blocking figure to protect users while using their website.

There is no legal liability.

Yes there is. I just commented that above.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

There is no legal liability.

Yes there is. I just commented that above.

Doesn't mean there is.

If there was, Valve would've gotten in legal trouble long ago.

[bluesky66621]

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

Yes there is. I just commented that above.

Doesn't mean there is.

If there was, Valve would've gotten in legal trouble long ago.

Take this for example, When someone was stalked on the social media website then report the stalking to the local police department. The law enforcement has to contact the website where the stalking came from. Then a site has to either cooperate with the law enforcement or fight it in court. Most social media websites now do comply and provide evidence that the law enforcement requested. Facebook in particular would then terminates the user account due to legal violations.

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

Doesn't mean there is.

If there was, Valve would've gotten in legal trouble long ago.

Take this for example, When someone was stalked on the social media website then report the stalking to the local police department. The law enforcement has to contact the website where the stalking came from.

You do realize that the definition of stalking is rather tightly defined?

My advice OP.
Take the points from those clown awards and vbuy something fun from the points shop.
Offense can only be taken, not given.
Don't take it and all they're doing is wasting their points.

[MonkehMaster]

100% agreed, blocking a user should make them not be able to interact with each other at all, basically they dont exists for each other.

some day soon, maybe valve will overhaul the function and make it worth using and work properly and i will be happy with the end result, ie... blocking block both blocker and blocked person from interacting at all.

as for comments against said suggestion, im not interested and we all know why one would want to keep it as is... anywho, point stands and valve needs to fix it and no amount of argument will change that it needs an overhaul.

as for "self control" seems it isnt the person wanting to block that requires it, more like the person who cant control their behavior, who needs to learn self control.

also, no replies needed, im not interested in bait comments/arguments, so dont bother.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por bluesky66621:

Originalmente postado por SlowMango:

Doesn't mean there is.

If there was, Valve would've gotten in legal trouble long ago.

Take this for example, When someone was stalked on the social media website then report the stalking to the local police department. The law enforcement has to contact the website where the stalking came from. Then a site has to either cooperate with the law enforcement or fight it in court. Most social media websites now do comply and provide evidence that the law enforcement requested. Facebook in particular would then terminates the user account due to legal violations.

That isn't how it works.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originalmente postado por MonkehMaster:

100% agreed, blocking a user should make them not be able to interact with each other at all, basically they dont exists for each other.

some day soon, maybe valve will overhaul the function and make it worth using and work properly.

It does work properly. Just requires self control.