It should be possible to delete threads that are locked...

[258789553873]

I'm trying to purge my presence from this platform to end the trolling. However, I keep finding that threads I've posted in are locked, preventing me from deleting posts from them, even if I wasn't the one that started the thread. If we can't hide them, give us some way to protect ourselves from freaking trolls. Why did they remove the ability to hide them? Trolling on here exploded the instant they did that, and now its forcing me off the platform. I have over 2000 posts on this site, and I'm having to manually delete them one by one just to save my mental health. This is so stupid. If that isn't bad enough, I can't even fully purge my presence from this site. This is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Why defend trolls? Why defend stalkers? I'm sick of posts I've made in the past being used as a weapon against me. Can I have no end to my suffering? Can't I even play my own games without having to live in fear? Surely I can't be the only one suffering from this. Why pander to trolls? What type of site does that, seriously?

[Seraphita]

I asked steam about this before. Their justification was "To keep the context intact". Because if posts could be deleted, it would apparently ruin contexts for other readers. Which is interesting (and silly) because locked threads should just really be wiped. Also, if you delete your account, your posts are deleted anyway. Not sure it makes sense.

[258789553873]

If I delete my account, I'll lose all my games. I could just make a new account, yeah, but must I sacrifice the literal hundreds of dollars of games I've bought on here? Why must we go to such extremes to protect outselves? This is beyond stupid.

I do like your idea though of purging locked threads. Its the greatest weapons trolls have. Info you can't remove in any shape or form. What must we do before steam protects its own freaking customers? Seriously? Why are we even having to make a thread about this? This should be built-in. As if that wasn't bad enough, it was in the system but later removed. Wtf?

[nullable]

I don't think there was ever the ability to hide publicly viewed posts. That being said, I wouldn't be against deleting posts in locked threads. But I guess they wouldn't really be locked if you could manipulate them.

I post a lot too, but I can't say my post history comes up too much. So it makes me wonder what we're doing differently from each other. Are your post usually more problematic or what? I'm sure I'm not everyone's favorite user, so that can't be it. So I wonder what the story is.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by IXBlackWolfXI:

If I delete my account, I'll lose all my games. I could just make a new account, yeah, but must I sacrifice the literal hundreds of dollars of games I've bought on here? Why must we go to such extremes to protect outselves? This is beyond stupid.

This is a good question but the logic remains... Let's not ask why we should delete our account, let's ask why deleting our account deletes our posts but we can't delete them ourselves. Why is context important while we exist but not if we delete ourselves?

Originally posted by nullable:

I don't think there was ever the ability to hide publicly viewed posts. That being said, I wouldn't be against deleting posts in locked threads. But I guess they wouldn't really be locked if you could manipulate them.

The idea isn't to edit our posts, though. That would be illegal. But deleting our posts does not cost anything. Mods delete our posts all the time for personal reasons. Either it's inappropriate or etc. So it's not about changing things but about deleting them.

[potato]

Originally posted by Seraphita:

This is a good question but the logic remains... Let's not ask why we should delete our account, let's ask why deleting our account deletes our posts but we can't delete them ourselves. Why is context important while we exist but not important if we delete ourselves?

deleting your account only deletes your data (your posts), the op wants to delete threads that have other people's data (their posts)

[258789553873]

You can't delete threads, but you can still edit them which is better than nothing, at least let us delete the starting post that trolls are using against you?

Also, deleting what I can, I find the locked threads, even if they're not my own, tend to make me look bad. What, are moderators locking threads that they see can cause you the most harm? That's what it feels like doing this. I'm afraid to even continue at this rate. Teach me for speaking my mind, calling out scams, crying in pain when I'm assailed (the most common posts that I can't delete it seems). I wish I never posted on here. I wish I never bought a game from here. I wish I could just leave this site behind, but I would lose too much. In that how insidious this site is? They trick you into investing money in it, so you'll lose your investment if you ever leave. This is the most vicious trolling site I've ever seen, and I've seen forums RUN BY TROLLS.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by potato:

deleting your account only deletes your data (your posts), the op wants to delete threads that have other people's data (their posts)

Well... I suppose that distinction is important. Our threads belong to steam once we post them and everyone have the right to post in them. It's true that deleting threads would be a bit strange. I'd like the ability to delete my posts but threads is another thing.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Seraphita:

Originally posted by nullable:

I don't think there was ever the ability to hide publicly viewed posts. That being said, I wouldn't be against deleting posts in locked threads. But I guess they wouldn't really be locked if you could manipulate them.

The idea isn't to edit our posts, though. That would be illegal. But deleting our posts does not cost anything. Mods delete our posts all the time for personal reasons. Either it's inappropriate or etc. So it's not about changing things but about deleting them.

Editing your posts wouldn't be illegal. What laws would that violate exactly.

Well you can argue semantics all you want. Deleting something by definition changes it, which is why I chose the word "manipulate" so as not avoid getting mired in quibbling over what everyone thinks "editing" entails.

Again I'm not against users being able to delete their posts. I wish there were some better management tools there. But ultimately it comes down to how Valve wants to treat locked threads. And if they don't want users making any additional changes to the topic, then deleting post might be off the table. If Valve changes their mind about it, I won't complain.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by nullable:

Editing your posts wouldn't be illegal. What laws would that violate exactly.

Well you can argue semantics all you want. Deleting something by definition changes it, which is why I chose the word "manipulate" so as not avoid getting mired in quibbling over what everyone thinks "editing" entails.

Again I'm not against users being able to delete their posts. I wish there were some better management tools there. But ultimately it comes down to how Valve wants to treat locked threads. And if they don't want users making any additional changes to the topic, then deleting post might be off the table. If Valve changes their mind about it, I won't complain.

Okay, I will reword what I meant... I meant that editing the post would definitely allow people to change the context of a discussion. But deleting posts means we still change the context, yet we can delete our posts anyway if we delete our account. So, um... Why?

[Gwarsbane]

No, you should not be able to delete your posts or even a thread thats been locked.

In fact I don't think you should be able to delete or even edit your posts after someone else has posted a reply. Well ok edit should be possible, but it should only be that the changes get added to the bottom, everything that was already in the post should not change.

Seen too many times someone scream "I didn't say that, you are making things up" then someone points them to the post where they said the thing they claim they didn't say, the post then gets edited or even deleted and the person then says, I didn't say it, look at my post again... or they even just ignore them cause the post has changed anyway and some people just ignore the edit tag thats been added.

So again, no we should not be able to edit/delete posts after a thread is locked.

[258789553873]

I had another user threaten me once on the Skyrim board. He was allowed to get away with it, and then really doubled down the trolling. I kept linkiing to his post to show what he had done, and that ended with the mods deleting the entire thread and banning me. Yes, mods defended someone who made threats to me. I seriously would've called the authorities on him if he lived in the US.

So no, not being able to delete threads doesn't save trolls; mods are more than happy to do so to defend them. That incident btw was the final straw for me. I never posted there again.

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by IXBlackWolfXI:

I had another user threaten me once on the Skyrim board. He was allowed to get away with it, and then really doubled down the trolling. I kept linkiing to his post to show what he had done, and that ended with the mods deleting the entire thread and banning me. Yes, mods defended someone who made threats to me. I seriously would've called the authorities on him if he lived in the US.

So no, not being able to delete threads doesn't save trolls; mods are more than happy to do so to defend them. That incident btw was the final straw for me. I never posted there again.

Didn't saying not being able to delete them would solve things, but it would make it harder for them to deny things.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by IXBlackWolfXI:

I'm trying to purge my presence from this platform to end the trolling. However, I keep finding that threads I've posted in are locked, preventing me from deleting posts from them, even if I wasn't the one that started the thread. If we can't hide them, give us some way to protect ourselves from freaking trolls. Why did they remove the ability to hide them? Trolling on here exploded the instant they did that, and now its forcing me off the platform. I have over 2000 posts on this site, and I'm having to manually delete them one by one just to save my mental health. This is so stupid. If that isn't bad enough, I can't even fully purge my presence from this site. This is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Why defend trolls? Why defend stalkers? I'm sick of posts I've made in the past being used as a weapon against me. Can I have no end to my suffering? Can't I even play my own games without having to live in fear? Surely I can't be the only one suffering from this. Why pander to trolls? What type of site does that, seriously?

Become a moderator and you can delete your threads.

[Seraphita]

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

Become a moderator and you can delete your threads.

That sounds paradoxal. If you become a mod, you still could not delete your threads because you would have to explain it to higher ups. Rules apply to everyone. Mods delete posts because they break rules but I rarely see them delete threads unless they're BAD.

[258789553873]

I would be willing to take a permanent irrevocable universal forum ban on my account just to have my posts purged. I have no intents on posting anywhere again, I'm not happy about even posting here. I haven't posted in months, I just got desperate to BE FREE. I regret every time I post here, I regret even making this stupid thread. What other choice do I have? What other choice do I have? I just want to be free, I'm sick of living in fear, I'm sick of being harrassed and targetted completely regardless of what I post. Even completely banal questions get me dog-piled by trolls that never post anything on-topic. At least a mod was willing to delete the last thread, for a game I was thinking of playing online which is why I was so desperate to have it removed. I'm so thankful they did that, too bad I can't do anything about the other locked threads.

Why do they tie our hands behind our backs just so we can't protect outselves? Anyone who posts here is putting themselves in danger, and there's nothing you can do about it once it starts. They smell blood, you'll never be able to use this platform in peace again. Is this place just made to attract victims for trolls? That's what it looks like, insane as that is. They defend trolls on every board, they prevent users from being able to do a damned thing to protect themselves, they don't even let us remain hidden so we can game in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ peace. It doesn't matter for offline games, granted, but I was thinking of playing online. I'm afraid I'll face harrassment if I do so though due to this platform. I'm scared to play games I freaking paid for because of this platform. What does that say?