Account resale is out of control

[76561197963519852]

I was checking the many, many websites showing accounts for sale.

To my surprise, I came across a "pro" CS2 account that has actual "Major Medals" for sale.

I also came across someone selling a bulk of 500x CS2 prime accounts for pennies compared to a Prime account.

When is Valve going to do something?

There is at least 20x websites doing this. It's obviously very profitable considering the amount doing it and the giant inventory they have.

It's totally tainted the player base because you can't trust literally ANYONE if the can spoof all the credentials that make an account look legit.

Please, guys, do something about this.

UPDATE 3/26/24: Here is from my latest match in CS2 with at least 8 out of 10 players on bought accounts: https://streamable.com/lx78g7

[мусульманго]

yes

[fluxtorrent]

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

And yet here you are, playing pretend with us.

Anyone else wanna bet that the accounts beating this scrub aren't bought?

Check for yourself

https://csstats.gg/match/170932178

Plenty of them.

playing pretend still I see, that link doesn't show you being beaten by purchased accounts

[76561199559798421]

wuddih님이 먼저 게시:

Valve can not prevent stupid people to buy accounts
Valve can not prevent slightly less stupid people to scam those people that buy those accounts.

lemme talk real for a second about the underlying personal issue ... you are likely 30+ and you try to play competitive games and you are grasping for every straw to find an excuse for yourself underperforming.
it is cheating, it is the other people on your team, it is foreigners playing in the wrong region, it is people buying accounts and it will only be a matter of time until you even blame the clouds in the sky.

i would say: if you need a reality skill check, pick your best buddies and go on a LAN but you already have an excuse for that too ... sooo ... just stop, find something else.

competitive games are no longer for you.

you're welcome.

i liked this comment,

of course its cheating, of course its foreigner regions with bad ping, of course its bad coding and improper system settings , of course its faulty IP and Bottle neck wifi from all the devices trying to access streaming at once.

over all Of course its just a game where people are marketed to buy pointless skins to look cool and often cheat to get case drops.

of course its steam that easily wants to deny any chance that the blame is on.

"A horse is a horse of course of course, unless of course That horse is the famous MR. ED"

Talking horse is more likely then steam ever doing anything about its issues or protecting is customers from fraud and scams, account theft, or black market trading

[76561197963519852]

Death Stalker님이 먼저 게시:

Hello Karen...???
Scream, Cry, or Throw a Temper Tantrum all you want, It still won't change the fact that Steam,,, IS NOT THE WORLD POLICE...!!!

Some people, my god, WTF,,,!?!?!?!?

They actually have "police" capability on their own platform.

They can investigate and they can automate bans.

Clearly, they're not doing enough if there's a giant resale market of farmed accounts.

[76561197963519852]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

Check for yourself

https://csstats.gg/match/170932178

Plenty of them.

playing pretend still I see, that link doesn't show you being beaten by purchased accounts

Then you aren't very good at investigating.

[fluxtorrent]

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

playing pretend still I see, that link doesn't show you being beaten by purchased accounts

Then you aren't very good at investigating.

I mean it shows you have a skill issue, thats for sure, didn't take much investigating to find THAT though

[76561197963519852]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

Then you aren't very good at investigating.

I mean it shows you have a skill issue, thats for sure, didn't take much investigating to find THAT though

If everyone is reliant on using cheats to be half as good as me, there's a problem when you *need* cheats to be better than me.

It's clear there's more people cheating in this game than once thought and it's sad because people are actually missing out on something fun, which is being reliant on solely your own skill.

Cheaters will never understand that. All they know is how to dodge cool downs/bans/low trust running multiple accounts while pretending everything they're doing is "normal" for a "gamer" to do.

They don't realize they're not gamers. They're cheaters and the more dumb their bought accounts look the harder they put on the act.

[fluxtorrent]

Oh please, even on the matches you've played that clearly have no cheaters you don't do any better. Hell thats one of your BETTER matches.

But I guess you need to huff that copium.

[76561197963519852]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

Oh please, even on the matches you've played that clearly have no cheaters you don't do any better. Hell thats one of your BETTER matches

Except they are closet cheaters and anyone who invest time in the game can spot them with ease.

They'll be the first to use one of three defenses:

1. "I play Valorant"

2. "I am a Smurf"

3. "You're just mad because I'm better"


It's a clear pathological response to being exposed that they all hive-mind around the same replies.

There are no "smurfs" left when there's no place for new players to actually have a match. I was stuck in Silver 1 for months during CSGO and I had 3k+ hours. Say what you want about my skill, it's not going to be fair for new players to play someone with 3k hours.

The only *new* "players" are cheaters because there is no on-ramp for them to actually have a fair match. Actual smurfs circa 2016 ruined that for them. I remember encountering hordes of derankers that year and it was so they could play in the bottom ranks destroying new players for their own enjoyment.

So yeah, there's no where to "smurf" left. There's just cheaters on new accounts and closet cheaters on older accounts still living the dream that they're going to get picked up to be "pro" one day. lol

The pipedream of faking it til you make it is alive and well in this community. Unfortunately, at the expense of things like truth and that painful thing known as "reality".

[fluxtorrent]

The absolute lack of selfawareness is astounding lol "you must be cheating because I couldnt possibly lose since I'm better than you!"

[Ben Lubar]

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

I mean it shows you have a skill issue, thats for sure, didn't take much investigating to find THAT though

If everyone is reliant on using cheats to be half as good as me, there's a problem when you *need* cheats to be better than me.

The only way you could think that is if you were cheating and assuming that everyone else must be but just not getting caught.

People can be better than you at a video game. More than one first person shooter exists.

[76561197963519852]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

The absolute lack of selfawareness is astounding lol "you must be cheating because I couldnt possibly lose since I'm better than you!"

Again, the same pathological response I already outlined which can be boiled down to "mad cuz bad"

The only person with a lack of self-awareness is you.

Cheaters think they are "smarter" than the people they are cheating against. It's a clear mental illness and probably related to deeper character issues like narcissism, selfishness, lack of empathy for others, etc.

The truth is, you're not smart. If you were, you'd have never been caught and on a fraudulent account purporting to be "better".

All it takes is pressing tab and clicking on your profile to see your medals, commends, hours, etc. there's a clear pattern to the people who are cheating and you can tell before the match even starts.

[Piston Smashed™]

So, we finally went and changed subject from accounts being sold to the real reason for the thread of I see too many cheaters in every game I play in...

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

Death Stalker님이 먼저 게시:

Hello Karen...???
Scream, Cry, or Throw a Temper Tantrum all you want, It still won't change the fact that Steam,,, IS NOT THE WORLD POLICE...!!!

Some people, my god, WTF,,,!?!?!?!?

They actually have "police" capability on their own platform.

They can investigate and they can automate bans.

Clearly, they're not doing enough if there's a giant resale market of farmed accounts.

Imagine fires broke out, then you blame the city for not having fire fighters come out in time then you say they're bad at their job while not one person REPORTED the fires that broke out, with no way for anyone to know, but those watching the fire happen that choose not to REPORT it.

Imagine saying police are bad at their job because they didn't come to solve a crime that happen, while not one person REPORTED for them to come, and YOU EXPECTED them to have some kind of god like powers to predict the future, and know when something happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0GNS6F44wE

No human can mindread, nor predict the future that what you keep failing to understand.

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

playing pretend still I see, that link doesn't show you being beaten by purchased accounts

Then you aren't very good at investigating.

I watch the demo, and mate you're not good to put it nicely basically you're rookie rank from your play style I mean you ran out into the open in the middle of the room for whole squad gun you donw, and you trying to bunny hop wasn't good either, and I checked each player that lead up to killing you so it's shows you're not even good you're trying to make it out to be, and one of them I know they're smurfing because knows the strats to holding points, but you oh man you just go running in gun blazing dying yeah cheaters alright...

[76561197963519852]

Piston Smashed™님이 먼저 게시:

So, we finally went and changed subject from accounts being sold to the real reason for the thread of I see too many cheaters in every game I play in...

The main vector for defeating trust factor is the usage of resold accounts.

They are advertised for "green trust" and "high hours" in order to bypass all the obstacles Valve puts in place to limit cheaters from just hopping on their next account and getting right back into MM where they are ruining the experience for people like me.

Its side-stepping all the good things Valve has done to stop cheaters.