Get rid of Lolis and Lolicons

[Amaterasu]

I know that I'm opening a hell of a can of worms, I know that a lot of people are going to come out of the wood works and try to defend it and all. I know that I'm gonna get accused of being a closeted lolicon(I'm not, I don't even like kids in general). But it's something I've been feeling has been needed to be said for a long while.

Loli is an art style that took hold in Japan after a book known as the Lolita Complex, which was a book about someone wanting to [CENSORED] a child was released there. It became a viral hit and spawned the Lolita style, which in and of itself is just Victorian England dress turned up to 11. But... it also normalized the idea that it was okay for people to be attracted to kids. Yes, literal kids.

Japan didn't have laws against any sort of [CENSORED] until 2014, which it was finally made illegal and they gave people an entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ year to get rid of it. And even so, they still try to [CENSORED] children in animation and manga. Yes, really, this is a thing that still happens. Yes, that's what the entire art style of Loli is actually about. If it was supposed to be cute, it'd be Kawaii. If it was supposed to be childlike it'd be Chibi. If it was supposed to be a normal child, it'd just be a child. Yes, there are actual terms for every type of defense that people make.

Also the "800 year old Vampire" defense is just the "Legal" Loli defense. They're still coded to be a child. It's still wrong. And according to laws in the US at least having Loli material and being a Lolicon(Which derives from Lolita Complex, you know, that book which someone wanted to [CENSORED] a kid. Yeah, you can get an idea of what they're really about. It's not about cute things, it's about kids)... is illegal and falls under the definition of simulated [CENSORED].

And to counter the, "It's just a fantasy" defense... why specifically the childlike character? Why specifically them? There are plenty of adult coded people in anime, manga, and games. Plenty of them, such as Tae Takemi from Persona 5(Early 20s, looks it), Nami from One Piece(18 pre-time skip, 20 post. Looks it), wanna go with short and cute? Shiori Katase from My Tiny Senpai(In her 20s, looks it), want flat? Ms. Kobayashi from Ms. Kobayashi's Dragon Maid(At least 20s, looks it), Zebiantes from Chillin in my 30s after getting Fired from the Demon Lord's Army(Unknown, looks and acts like an adult), Hana Uzaki from Uzaki-chan wants to hang out(College student, looks it). Why not any of those examples or more? Because it's not about a petite woman. It's about the fact the character is coded as a child and it's being used in place of materials that more overtly known as being illegal, but as I said before, Loli material still counts in the same boat under US Law.

As such, I believe Steam should rid itself of these things. Give this kind of thing one less platform of legitimacy. And that it should very much be a ban on sight kind of thing.

P.S. Not relevant, but I don't watch One Piece, I have a dislike of Shounen Anime, especially Battle Shonen, I just know Nami because my little brother is a Shounenhead. SEINEN FOR LIFE! Also all the [CENSORED] was so that someone couldn't just report this to the mods and get it taken down.

Edit: Thanks for the points.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Everyone is Invited님이 먼저 게시:

its still a good idea for steam to distance itself from selling or providing this type of content on its platform.

Nah.

They aren't morality police.

[76561199559798421]

i just can't believe that steam is this type of place , my view of steam has shifted from corrupt company seeking profit to one of vulgar predators that seek to demoralize the youth of the world with pornographic video games

[Boblin the Goblin]

Everyone is Invited님이 먼저 게시:

i just can't believe that steam is this type of place , my view of steam has shifted from corrupt company seeking profit to one of vulgar predators that seek to demoralize the youth of the world with pornographic video games

Oh, that's the new schtick you're going with?

[Zarineth]

SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

Everyone is Invited님이 먼저 게시:

i just can't believe that steam is this type of place , my view of steam has shifted from corrupt company seeking profit to one of vulgar predators that seek to demoralize the youth of the world with pornographic video games

Oh, that's the new schtick you're going with?

He already tried that in a thread about GoG. He just forgot, that GoG also have a lot of AO games and they are even easier to access, than on Steam...

[The Commendatore]

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

Oh, that's the new schtick you're going with?

He already tried that in a thread about GoG. He just forgot, that GoG also have a lot of AO games and they are even easier to access, than on Steam...

That's funny.

[Amaterasu]

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

Oh, that's the new schtick you're going with?

He already tried that in a thread about GoG. He just forgot, that GoG also have a lot of AO games and they are even easier to access, than on Steam..

I don't always play AO games, but when I do, it's on my main account

[eram]

sungoddess14님이 먼저 게시:

The Commendatore님이 먼저 게시:

OP doesn't really care. Their first shtick was moderation, now the flavour of the week is lolicon... up next? Who knows.

Hey look, a deflection. :slimetabby:

Besides, I've figured out that I can add custom tags that steam doesn't have on it thanks to eram. So... so much for me not caring, I guess. :MillaThink:

There is an option in the steam client that says block store adult content ,it blocks only porn games

[Zarineth]

sungoddess14님이 먼저 게시:

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

He already tried that in a thread about GoG. He just forgot, that GoG also have a lot of AO games and they are even easier to access, than on Steam..

I don't always play AO games, but when I do, it's on my main account

Me too. I also have my favourite one displayed on profile, along with few more I have 100% achievements on.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

sungoddess14님이 먼저 게시:

I don't always play AO games, but when I do, it's on my main account

Me too. I also have my favourite one displayed on profile, along with few more I have 100% achievements on.

The friends I have on Steam are either family(who know what I play) or people from the forums. There is literally no reason to hide the multiple porn games I own.

Hell, even my wife saw me playing Huniepop and that it looked fun. She saw me doing one of the date levels where the girl gets undressed as you get bigger combos.

[76561197963519852]

SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

Me too. I also have my favourite one displayed on profile, along with few more I have 100% achievements on.

The friends I have on Steam are either family(who know what I play) or people from the forums. There is literally no reason to hide the multiple porn games I own.

Hell, even my wife saw me playing Huniepop and that it looked fun. She saw me doing one of the date levels where the girl gets undressed as you get bigger combos.

Nothing wrong with adults doing adult things.

The issue is when the content is geared towards soft-pedophilia which is exactly what OP is on about.

The fact is steam should recognize their civic responsibility to society and that means acting as censors when it comes to these kinds of things, less it spirals and you develop a culture of pushing *this* specific boundary to the point there *are* open pedophiles on this platform who flaunt their sickness for everyone else to be disgusted by.

[Pipe]

Lily McFluffy Butt님이 먼저 게시:

The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼님이 먼저 게시:

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true

I feel like both of you might be victims of your own biases

[76561197963519852]

What was the name of Epstein's plane?

[Thermal Lance]

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

What was the name of Epstein's plane?

The Loli Express

Sorry, had to.

[Seraphita]

SlowMango님이 먼저 게시:

𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼님이 먼저 게시:

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true considering there has been a clear pattern of people who go out of their way to demonize lolicon/shotacon that then end up getting outted, there are many examples of this such as vaush, edp, meatcanyon, that women who went off on gura and was caught telling minors to show tits on stream (sorry i don't remember this e-girls name) etc. That is just youtubers too. The amount of "your likes are public moments" on twitter is honestly staggering.

The reality is when if someone goes out of their way to scream about drawings it is usually projection.

Vaush is the most recent one.

Spent years calling people who like loli pedos. Gets busted with loli on his own stream.

Not just loli either. Horse ♥♥♥♥ Loli.

I did say it before. The antis are the ones who are more concerning than actual "lolicons". OP is trying to defend themselves by spouting their own fetish, as if it made things better. We can note that nobody who is against it in this thread seems rational or reasonable.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

Pipe님이 먼저 게시:

Lily McFluffy Butt님이 먼저 게시:

The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼님이 먼저 게시:

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true

I feel like both of you might be victims of your own biases

Not really considering there is direct evidence of what I have said being true and the examples that I have given while he only goes off of bias with no direct evidence.

Cosa Nostra님이 먼저 게시:

Just tell it like it is, anyone into "Lolli, Lollicon, Lolly, or anything in the mix", is a wannabe, or is in fact, a child molester or at least supports it.

Good thing that "lolli, lollicon, and lolly" are not what we are discussing here then lol. The fact you can't even spell it correctly proves how uneducated you are on even the most basic level of the subject.

redacted님이 먼저 게시:

What was the name of Epstein's plane?

I like how this dude is trying to bring up the fact that epstein's plane's name was called the "lolita express" to try and act as a gotcha because they have no actual arguments to stand on (while it also frankly being disgusting they are trying to bring a real world pedo ring where real victims suffered to try and say why the dumb hentai drawings are bad talk about using real peoples suffering to win an internet argument...). It really goes to show that yall don't have anything legitimate to stand on because even the laws (in the usa at least considering this is where steam is) disagree with you.