Get rid of Lolis and Lolicons

[Amaterasu]

I know that I'm opening a hell of a can of worms, I know that a lot of people are going to come out of the wood works and try to defend it and all. I know that I'm gonna get accused of being a closeted lolicon(I'm not, I don't even like kids in general). But it's something I've been feeling has been needed to be said for a long while.

Loli is an art style that took hold in Japan after a book known as the Lolita Complex, which was a book about someone wanting to [CENSORED] a child was released there. It became a viral hit and spawned the Lolita style, which in and of itself is just Victorian England dress turned up to 11. But... it also normalized the idea that it was okay for people to be attracted to kids. Yes, literal kids.

Japan didn't have laws against any sort of [CENSORED] until 2014, which it was finally made illegal and they gave people an entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ year to get rid of it. And even so, they still try to [CENSORED] children in animation and manga. Yes, really, this is a thing that still happens. Yes, that's what the entire art style of Loli is actually about. If it was supposed to be cute, it'd be Kawaii. If it was supposed to be childlike it'd be Chibi. If it was supposed to be a normal child, it'd just be a child. Yes, there are actual terms for every type of defense that people make.

Also the "800 year old Vampire" defense is just the "Legal" Loli defense. They're still coded to be a child. It's still wrong. And according to laws in the US at least having Loli material and being a Lolicon(Which derives from Lolita Complex, you know, that book which someone wanted to [CENSORED] a kid. Yeah, you can get an idea of what they're really about. It's not about cute things, it's about kids)... is illegal and falls under the definition of simulated [CENSORED].

And to counter the, "It's just a fantasy" defense... why specifically the childlike character? Why specifically them? There are plenty of adult coded people in anime, manga, and games. Plenty of them, such as Tae Takemi from Persona 5(Early 20s, looks it), Nami from One Piece(18 pre-time skip, 20 post. Looks it), wanna go with short and cute? Shiori Katase from My Tiny Senpai(In her 20s, looks it), want flat? Ms. Kobayashi from Ms. Kobayashi's Dragon Maid(At least 20s, looks it), Zebiantes from Chillin in my 30s after getting Fired from the Demon Lord's Army(Unknown, looks and acts like an adult), Hana Uzaki from Uzaki-chan wants to hang out(College student, looks it). Why not any of those examples or more? Because it's not about a petite woman. It's about the fact the character is coded as a child and it's being used in place of materials that more overtly known as being illegal, but as I said before, Loli material still counts in the same boat under US Law.

As such, I believe Steam should rid itself of these things. Give this kind of thing one less platform of legitimacy. And that it should very much be a ban on sight kind of thing.

P.S. Not relevant, but I don't watch One Piece, I have a dislike of Shounen Anime, especially Battle Shonen, I just know Nami because my little brother is a Shounenhead. SEINEN FOR LIFE! Also all the [CENSORED] was so that someone couldn't just report this to the mods and get it taken down.

Edit: Thanks for the points.

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

I strongly agree with this suggestion. The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lily McFluffy Butt:

I strongly agree with this suggestion. The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

I've noticed that for those who tend to make a fuss about loli/lolicon more than people who defend it.

[76561199559798421]

Ursprungligen skrivet av The Commendatore:

Oh, please. Adult content is turned off and hidden by default so minors see F all.

Try again.

these are kids your talking about , kids are smart they want to play games most games have a age verification to access them, they get around them for even games like counter strike or COD

adult content turned off is a click for a kid with any intelligence to turn it on, by having the content accessible , filter or not, its giving access to young children the same as adults.

adults don't need it any more then children, the immoral complications of graphical porn in video games hurts both adults and children steam should consider removing the content and being protective to the protection of both its customers, its users, its adults and the children that use the platform.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Everyone is Invited:

Ursprungligen skrivet av The Commendatore:

Oh, please. Adult content is turned off and hidden by default so minors see F all.

Try again.

these are kids your talking about , kids are smart they want to play games most games have a age verification to access them, they get around them for even games like counter strike or COD

adult content turned off is a click for a kid with any intelligence to turn it on, by having the content accessible , filter or not, its giving access to young children the same as adults.

adults don't need it any more then children, the immoral complications of graphical porn in video games hurts both adults and children steam should consider removing the content and being protective to the protection of both its customers, its users, its adults and the children that use the platform.

Your morality is irrelevant to other adults and customers.

[76561199559798421]

morality however is not irrelevant to the law

if children can access it its consider illegal , age filter or not, its accessible, there is no way from stopping a young children from making a steam account, removing the age filter and turning on the adult section of steam and downloading and playing numerious adult content full nudity games for free.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Everyone is Invited:

morality however is not irrelevant to the law

if children can access it its consider illegal , age filter or not, its accessible, there is no way from stopping a young children from making a steam account, removing the age filter and turning on the adult section of steam and downloading and playing numerious adult content full nudity games for free.

Not true.

[MonkehMaster]

Ursprungligen skrivet av sungoddess14:

Ursprungligen skrivet av The Commendatore:

OP doesn't really care. Their first shtick was moderation, now the flavour of the week is lolicon... up next? Who knows.

Hey look, a deflection. :slimetabby:

Besides, I've figured out that I can add custom tags that steam doesn't have on it thanks to eram. So... so much for me not caring, I guess. :MillaThink:

true, but hopefully they arent incorrect tags.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lily McFluffy Butt:

I strongly agree with this suggestion. The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true considering there has been a clear pattern of people who go out of their way to demonize lolicon/shotacon that then end up getting outted, there are many examples of this such as vaush, edp, meatcanyon, that women who went off on gura and was caught telling minors to show tits on stream (sorry i don't remember this e-girls name) etc. That is just youtubers too. The amount of "your likes are public moments" on twitter is honestly staggering.

The reality is when if someone goes out of their way to scream about drawings it is usually projection.

[MonkehMaster]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Everyone is Invited:

morality however is not irrelevant to the law

if children can access it its consider illegal , age filter or not, its accessible, there is no way from stopping a young children from making a steam account, removing the age filter and turning on the adult section of steam and downloading and playing numerious adult content full nudity games for free.

i remember when those dns servers that supposedly blocked sites came out back in the day... and they were so easy to bypass.

turning of parental features is just as easy.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lily McFluffy Butt:

I strongly agree with this suggestion. The people defending loli crap tend to just be closeted pedos.

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true considering there has been a clear pattern of people who go out of their way to demonize lolicon/shotacon that then end up getting outted, there are many examples of this such as vaush, edp, meatcanyon, that women who went off on gura and was caught telling minors to show tits on stream (sorry i don't remember this e-girls name) etc. That is just youtubers too. The amount of "your likes are public moments" on twitter is honestly staggering.

The reality is when if someone goes out of their way to scream about drawings it is usually projection.

Vaush is the most recent one.

Spent years calling people who like loli pedos. Gets busted with loli on his own stream.

Not just loli either. Horse ♥♥♥♥ Loli.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true considering there has been a clear pattern of people who go out of their way to demonize lolicon/shotacon that then end up getting outted, there are many examples of this such as vaush, edp, meatcanyon, that women who went off on gura and was caught telling minors to show tits on stream (sorry i don't remember this e-girls name) etc. That is just youtubers too. The amount of "your likes are public moments" on twitter is honestly staggering.

The reality is when if someone goes out of their way to scream about drawings it is usually projection.

Vaush is the most recent one.

Spent years calling people who like loli pedos. Gets busted with loli on his own stream.

Not just loli either. Horse ♥♥♥♥ Loli.

The funniest part was it was of Matsuri a well known lolicon of hololive vtuber group.

[Amaterasu]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

Ironic because the opposite tends to be true considering there has been a clear pattern of people who go out of their way to demonize lolicon/shotacon that then end up getting outted, there are many examples of this such as vaush, edp, meatcanyon, that women who went off on gura and was caught telling minors to show tits on stream (sorry i don't remember this e-girls name) etc. That is just youtubers too. The amount of "your likes are public moments" on twitter is honestly staggering.

The reality is when if someone goes out of their way to scream about drawings it is usually projection.

Vaush is the most recent one.

Spent years calling people who like loli pedos. Gets busted with loli on his own stream.

Not just loli either. Horse ♥♥♥♥ Loli.

And yet this defense falls flat against me. I'd rather have a terabyte of Mancubus porn than one lolicon image.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Vaush is the most recent one.

Spent years calling people who like loli pedos. Gets busted with loli on his own stream.

Not just loli either. Horse ♥♥♥♥ Loli.

The funniest part was it was of Matsuri a well known lolicon of hololive vtuber group.

They also found his private Twitter which liked lolicon and showed a commission he had his girlfriend do of Kanna from Dragon Maid doing and aheago face.

[Amaterasu]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SlowMango:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

The funniest part was it was of Matsuri a well known lolicon of hololive vtuber group.

They also found his private Twitter which liked lolicon and showed a commission he had his girlfriend do of Kanna from Dragon Maid doing and aheago face.

... I do not have an emote that conveys my sheer disgust at this. Nor words that wouldn't violate ToS... That's just... sickening

[76561199559798421]

its still a good idea for steam to distance itself from selling or providing this type of content on its platform.