Vaios 2024 年 3 月 20 日 下午 4:57
Add option to automatically shutdown computer when updates finish downloading
it's been asked a lot
最後修改者:Vaios; 2024 年 3 月 23 日 上午 1:54
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nullable 2024 年 3 月 20 日 下午 5:19 
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?

The fact that it's 2024 doesn't make random programs ordering the PC to shut down a good idea. Being able to do it doesn't make it a good idea. A bunch of people demanding it without considering the problems doesn't make it a necessity to implement.

If you want to admin your PC in a certain way that's fine. But that's your job, not Valve's and not Steam's.

Can your web browser shut down your PC? Or any media player? Why not? Someone's asked for VLC to shut the PC off when a movie is done playing. Someone has demanded Mozilla add a feature to shut down the PC when a download finishes. I'd wager most software you run doesn't have random system administration features. Why do you think that is?
Vaios 2024 年 3 月 20 日 下午 5:27 
引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?

I want it to shutdown immediately after it finishes because its the only thing running at night when i can use all my bandwidth

The fact that it's 2024 doesn't make random programs ordering the PC to shut down a good idea. Being able to do it doesn't make it a good idea. A bunch of people demanding it without considering the problems doesn't make it a necessity to implement.

What problems ? Please explain.

If you want to admin your PC in a certain way that's fine. But that's your job, not Valve's and not Steam's.

Yes i can admin my PC in a way that i have the option to allow steam to shutdown my pc.

Can your web browser shut down your PC? Or any media player? Why not? Someone's asked for VLC to shut the PC off when a movie is done playing. Someone has demanded Mozilla add a feature to shut down the PC when a download finishes. I'd wager most software you run doesn't have random system administration features. Why do you think that is?

Yes i have several much simpler software that gives me that option.
Satoru 2024 年 3 月 20 日 下午 5:40 
引用自 Vaios
Yes i have several much simpler software that gives me that option.

Note that its fairly easy to come up with a dozen edge cases where the system would reboot on you as an unintened event and you'd be extermely mad steam suddenly rebooted your system 'wihtout your permission'
Vaios 2024 年 3 月 23 日 上午 1:53 
引用自 Satoru
引用自 Vaios
Yes i have several much simpler software that gives me that option.

Note that its fairly easy to come up with a dozen edge cases where the system would reboot on you as an unintened event and you'd be extermely mad steam suddenly rebooted your system 'wihtout your permission'

I wouldn't be mad Satoru. :)
I am willing to trust a platform like this to shutdown my computer.
Unless of course there are other security risks that a developer could explain.

I can build i use case around me which i assume would relate to at least some of the millions of users here but that would take me an hour to write down professionally and i don't see the point.
My post was more of a wish than it was an expectation,since no valve developer will ever answer.

But to make a long story short
i practically sleep,work and game in the same room
my bandwidth is limited and shared with the rest of the house (16 mbps dl/ 1 mbps up)
most games nowadays are ~50gb and more.
So, an option like that (for me) would be
1.a healthier benefit (less dust in the air, less noise)
2.cost effectiveness from a power consumption point of view
3.less complaining from every other family member when they want to watch subscription based television)
4.being able to download and enjoy games faster
Phénomènes Mystiques 2024 年 3 月 23 日 上午 2:02 
引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?
With cold boot times being 1s - 20s in 2024, who tf uses sleep mode?
how bout i do anyway 2024 年 3 月 23 日 上午 2:50 
引用自 Cosa Nostra
引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?
With cold boot times being 1s - 20s in 2024, who tf uses sleep mode?
Shutting down the computer closes all your programs. Sleep mode doesn't.
aiusepsi 2024 年 3 月 24 日 上午 6:56 
The way some people here are talking, you'd think a shutdown-after-download-complete feature snuck into their home in the dead of night and murdered their family. This feature simply existing wouldn't hurt you.

It's not a system administration feature. Programs don't need system administrator rights to shut down the system.

A simple solution to the "I'm using the system and I forgot that I earlier told Steam to shut down when downloads are complete" problem: Steam pops up a dialog which says "Downloads complete, system shutting down in 30 seconds" with a "Cancel shutdown" button.

By default, the Windows API for causing a shutdown doesn't force applications to close, so there's no risk of unsaved data being lost by mistake.
nullable 2024 年 3 月 24 日 上午 8:23 
引用自 Cosa Nostra
引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?
With cold boot times being 1s - 20s in 2024, who tf uses sleep mode?

Almost everyone. There's no particular benefit to shutting the PC down. Fast boot times are convenient, but not a benefit. The amount of electricity to keep RAM active is inconsequential. Even if you only want to use sleep once in a while, and shut the PC down most of the time, nothing wrong with using sleep in instances where you won't be there to shut the PC down yourself.

Be careful about projecting your habits onto a billion other people, or assuming your use cases are the only ones that exist or matter.

You not using sleep doesn't negate the utility of the feature.
最後修改者:nullable; 2024 年 3 月 24 日 上午 8:27
Vaios 2024 年 4 月 5 日 上午 6:49 
引用自 nullable
引用自 Cosa Nostra
With cold boot times being 1s - 20s in 2024, who tf uses sleep mode?

Almost everyone. There's no particular benefit to shutting the PC down. Fast boot times are convenient, but not a benefit. The amount of electricity to keep RAM active is inconsequential. Even if you only want to use sleep once in a while, and shut the PC down most of the time, nothing wrong with using sleep in instances where you won't be there to shut the PC down yourself.

Be careful about projecting your habits onto a billion other people, or assuming your use cases are the only ones that exist or matter.

You not using sleep doesn't negate the utility of the feature.

On the matter of sleep ,speaking for me, i have already tried it long time ago, and because i use my computer for a hell of a lot of things i am not willing to change my power settings so often just to accommodate Steam. So your solution FOR ME is not optimal.

The way you speak(or write) to this and from what i saw, other posts as well, says a lot about you ,random,arrogant, non-friend.You can simply ignore my post and move on instead of your need to dictate what is wrong or right for me or my computer.
At the end of the day,best i can hope for is a conversation on a subject in here, am not asking for your opinion, especially one that does not put any value.

Seek local therapy.
最後修改者:Vaios; 2024 年 4 月 5 日 上午 7:13
[N]ebsun 2024 年 4 月 5 日 下午 1:58 
Updates take time depending on your internet speed - if it takes long enough that you need to do it overnight then it will probably take all night.. and if it's fast enough to not take all night, then you can just do it in the background or quickly during the day..

Doesn't seem like something that would be worth having - either the download is fast enough to not require it, or the download is too long for it to be useful, especially when you can just make your PC shutdown by itself with a simple command like "shutdown /s /t xxx" or "/sbin/shutdown -P xxx"

引用自 Vaios
because i use my computer for a hell of a lot of things i am not willing to change my power settings so often just to accommodate Steam. So your solution FOR ME is not optimal.
Changing Steam for everyone just to accommodate you is not optimal for me.
最後修改者:[N]ebsun; 2024 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:01
Vaios 2024 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:57 
I think the requirement here is very clear.


Changing Steam for everyone just to accommodate you is not optimal for me.

Giving one more option that is optional is not changing steam imo.

I guess i'll have to wait.
Kewne 1 月 19 日 下午 3:45 
Necro bumping this tread (it's the most recent one I found) because this would not only be a useful feature for desktops but also for Steam Deck (especially when it's a large download)

引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?
For the Steam Deck you have to leave it on to update games/programs (sadly doesn't have a background download like the Switch which automatically updates in sleep mode) - this means it has to be fully powered up to download; which could cause screen burn in if left on a static screen (ESPECIALLY on the OLED model; ask anyone who owned a Super AMOLED phone like the Galaxy S10; this is especially true if you use an OLED display monitor display too)
This is a standard feature on torrent clients (Quit program/log off/shut down when downloads are complete)
You could jury rig something up like a terminal command in GREP or BASH to do this - but it would be nice if it was included natively in Steam client/SteamOS

Plus, there are people who prefer it the old fashioned way of not leaving their PCs on 24/7 if not being used :conwayshrug:
最後修改者:Kewne; 1 月 19 日 下午 3:53
FrazIPrazI 1 月 21 日 下午 7:17 
引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?

The fact that it's 2024 doesn't make random programs ordering the PC to shut down a good idea. Being able to do it doesn't make it a good idea. A bunch of people demanding it without considering the problems doesn't make it a necessity to implement.

If you want to admin your PC in a certain way that's fine. But that's your job, not Valve's and not Steam's.

Can your web browser shut down your PC? Or any media player? Why not? Someone's asked for VLC to shut the PC off when a movie is done playing. Someone has demanded Mozilla add a feature to shut down the PC when a download finishes. I'd wager most software you run doesn't have random system administration features. Why do you think that is?

Why is bro so pressed, it's a suggestion, and a good one at that. Letting your computer download a big game overnight then automatically turn off instead of running and straining your hardware is a damn good idea, so stop with the whining you look childish.
Ben Lubar 1 月 21 日 下午 9:28 
引用自 Kewne
Necro bumping this tread (it's the most recent one I found) because this would not only be a useful feature for desktops but also for Steam Deck (especially when it's a large download)

引用自 nullable
What's wrong with your PC going to sleep when there's no activity?
For the Steam Deck you have to leave it on to update games/programs (sadly doesn't have a background download like the Switch which automatically updates in sleep mode) - this means it has to be fully powered up to download; which could cause screen burn in if left on a static screen (ESPECIALLY on the OLED model; ask anyone who owned a Super AMOLED phone like the Galaxy S10; this is especially true if you use an OLED display monitor display too)
This is a standard feature on torrent clients (Quit program/log off/shut down when downloads are complete)
You could jury rig something up like a terminal command in GREP or BASH to do this - but it would be nice if it was included natively in Steam client/SteamOS

Plus, there are people who prefer it the old fashioned way of not leaving their PCs on 24/7 if not being used :conwayshrug:

Does your Steam Deck's screen not turn off when you leave it alone for a while?
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