Make Steam points useful

[ArcausObscur]

As for now, steam points can only be used to purchase avatars, emoticons and other useless items. EA lets us trade their coins for discounts. As big and popular as steam is, we could have the option to trade them for discount, or at the very least trade for in-game items, for example a legendary chest in baldurs gate or whatever. Customers are asking for this for a verly long time!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/s/f2SQ166GkI

[Knee]

you’ll have to get the developers to agree to that, but if they and Valve come to an agreement that would be cool

but the likelihood of this happening i wouldn’t hold out too much hope for

[Tito Shivan]

The fact Steam stopped granting discounts for vouchers during sales just at the same time they opened the points shop should send a strong message about Steam's opinion on trading Steam points for in-store credit.

I didn't know EA had a points per discount system. All I can find is related to FIFA. Could you point me to it?

[Cathulhu]

That will happen as soon as you accept that your employer pays you in Steam points.

[ArcausObscur]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

That will happen as soon as you accept that your employer pays you in Steam points.

No. Other stores provide that, more like a cashback system. Steam fees are a rip-off to developers, so they make such an absurd amount of money that they could spend some pennies and give a devent reward instead of these good-for-nothing profile pictures

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ArcausObscur:

As for now, steam points can only be used to purchase avatars, emoticons and other useless items. EA lets us trade their coins for discounts. As big and popular as steam is, we could have the option to trade them for discount, or at the very least trade for in-game items, for example a legendary chest in baldurs gate or whatever. Customers are asking for this for a verly long time!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/s/f2SQ166GkI

This sounded familiar. I'll repost what I said in your deleted thread...

I can easily farm points buying in game items and selling them on the Market, sometimes for a small loss and other times for profit.

Valve tried coupons a couple times with the Token system for a $5 coupon. Each time people exploited the crap out of it and Valve never brought it back when they switched to the points system.

The coupons that were used with the old Token system that users found ways to abuse/stack them to get free games worth over $100.

Either way you put it, Valve will definitely lose a ton of money offering discounts for points.

[ArcausObscur]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

The fact Steam stopped granting discounts for vouchers during sales just at the same time they opened the points shop should send a strong message about Steam's opinion on trading Steam points for in-store credit.

I didn't know EA had a points per discount system. All I can find is related to FIFA. Could you point me to it?

Last time I bought a game on EA, I got points that I could trade for a 10% discount (up to 30% on selected games). I bought a few games with this. But as Origin was too crappy and crashed all the time, I eventually stopped using it. Steam is now a monopoly. All the other plaftorms got weakened

[ArcausObscur]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by ArcausObscur:

As for now, steam points can only be used to purchase avatars, emoticons and other useless items. EA lets us trade their coins for discounts. As big and popular as steam is, we could have the option to trade them for discount, or at the very least trade for in-game items, for example a legendary chest in baldurs gate or whatever. Customers are asking for this for a verly long time!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/s/f2SQ166GkI

This sounded familiar. I'll repost what I said in your deleted thread...

I can easily farm points buying in game items and selling them on the Market, sometimes for a small loss and other times for profit.

Valve tried coupons a couple times with the Token system for a $5 coupon. Each time people exploited the crap out of it and Valve never brought it back when they switched to the points system.

The coupons that were used with the old Token system that users found ways to abuse/stack them to get free games worth over $100.

Either way you put it, Valve will definitely lose a ton of money offering discounts for points.

:winterbunny2023:

Oh come on, for every 100$ you pay, steam takes 30$, pays 70$ to the developers and gives you 2000 worthless fartcoins. If, instead, for every 10000 you could get a 10% coupon on a 60$ game, you would have spent 500$ to get a 6$ discount. 30% fee on 60$ is 18$. They would still get 12$, they would sell even more, and customers wouldn't feel like a clown

[Wolf Knight]

Originally posted by ArcausObscur:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

This sounded familiar. I'll repost what I said in your deleted thread...

I can easily farm points buying in game items and selling them on the Market, sometimes for a small loss and other times for profit.

Valve tried coupons a couple times with the Token system for a $5 coupon. Each time people exploited the crap out of it and Valve never brought it back when they switched to the points system.

The coupons that were used with the old Token system that users found ways to abuse/stack them to get free games worth over $100.

Either way you put it, Valve will definitely lose a ton of money offering discounts for points.

:winterbunny2023:

Oh come on, for every 100$ you pay, steam takes 30$, pays 70$ to the developers and gives you 2000 worthless fartcoins. If, instead, for every 10000 you could get a 10% coupon on a 60$ game, you would have spent 500$ to get a 6$ discount. 30% fee on 60$ is 18$. They would still get 12$, they would sell even more, and customers wouldn't feel like a clown

use the search, what you have posted is not a new idea and we have seen plenty of posts from people. you got the points for free, steam does not sell them. if steam wants to make a loyalty program, they will decide how to design it, not the customer. customers dont have the stores best interest in mind, they only have their own interest and will bankrupt a store if they could.

[Pscht]

"Not doing what you want" is not the same as "not useful". And if you think other stores are so great, go do business with them. Valve is not going to fall for your negging.

[nullable]

Originally posted by ArcausObscur:

Oh come on, for every 100$ you pay, steam takes 30$, pays 70$ to the developers and gives you 2000 worthless fartcoins. If, instead, for every 10000 you could get a 10% coupon on a 60$ game, you would have spent 500$ to get a 6$ discount. 30% fee on 60$ is 18$. They would still get 12$, they would sell even more, and customers wouldn't feel like a clown

Well $20-$30 depending on the specifics. also no one is forced to sell their games on Steam. And it's not a monopoly because it's the only launcher you choose to use.

And yeah, Valve could do a hundred different things with points and discounts. But what they've chosen is their current system and all your spaghetti at the wall arguments where you seem to entertain the position that because Valve is dominant PC platform they're somehow beholden to give you free stuff is your own invention.

If shopping on Steam makes you feel like a clown and you refuse to use other launchers, of which there are many, well that's a self-inflicted injury if there ever was one. No one is forcing you to use Steam either.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ArcausObscur:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

This sounded familiar. I'll repost what I said in your deleted thread...

I can easily farm points buying in game items and selling them on the Market, sometimes for a small loss and other times for profit.

Valve tried coupons a couple times with the Token system for a $5 coupon. Each time people exploited the crap out of it and Valve never brought it back when they switched to the points system.

The coupons that were used with the old Token system that users found ways to abuse/stack them to get free games worth over $100.

Either way you put it, Valve will definitely lose a ton of money offering discounts for points.

Oh come on, for every 100$ you pay, steam takes 30$, pays 70$ to the developers and gives you 2000 worthless fartcoins. If, instead, for every 10000 you could get a 10% coupon on a 60$ game, you would have spent 500$ to get a 6$ discount. 30% fee on 60$ is 18$. They would still get 12$, they would sell even more, and customers wouldn't feel like a clown

I have banked over 300k points any any given point and that is after I purchase the Seasonal badge on the points shop.

I make tens of thousands of points per dollar using in game items and flipping them on the Market and sometimes make money on those flips, earning free points and wallet funds.

[HikariLight]

All games on the Origin store belong to EA.
That means EA can use a points system to buy games.
Steam sells games from many developers and cannot give discounts on games they do not own.

[Ethanol]

Depends on if developers agree to be paid with digital nothingness that won't be putting food on their tables.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

I have banked over 300k points any any given point and that is after I purchase the Seasonal badge on the points shop.

This is the most plausible reason why we're not seeing discount vouchers for points. Or in the event we ever see one the rate of exchange is going to be so ridiculous it won't even be worth it.

How many Steam points do we have laying around? I sure do have quite a lot.

Start multiplying available Steam points per active Steam users per discount and numbers start skyrocketing real fast.

What for users is a cool idea, at a business scale results in a very awful lot of money.

[DiceDsx]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

I have banked over 300k points any any given point and that is after I purchase the Seasonal badge on the points shop.

This is the most plausible reason why we're not seeing discount vouchers for points. Or in the event we ever see one the rate of exchange is going to be so ridiculous it won't even be worth it.

How many Steam points do we have laying around? I sure do have quite a lot.

Start multiplying available Steam points per active Steam users per discount and numbers start skyrocketing real fast.

What for users is a cool idea, at a business scale results in a very awful lot of money.

To be fair, a solution could be to make a second type of points available only during sales and usable on discounts and such.

It doesn't change the fact that points being usable only for cosmetic was a conscious choice by Valve, though.