Add "Monster Taming" as a tag!

[Noah Lewin Dev]

Never once in a real conversation have I said, "Did you play that new creature collector game?". I have and have always heard them referred to as monster taming games. Creature Collector has no precedent and fans of the genre have been using "Monster Taming" for years. Official reddit page, discords, yearly direct, etc all use it. The community and devs like my self would really appreciate the tag added.

[GymLeaderEd]

Publicado originalmente por Backer5:

Tamer is a better definition that Monster Tamer, which I feel gives the connotation of excluding games with decidedly "non-Monsters", like Dinosaurs, Robots, etc.

Monster taming is a step in the right direction, but Taming I feel is the best answer to this problem.

All the reasons pertaining to use in the YouTube community I think are gross; trying to shift the community to match their brand instead of vice versa feels very greedy, manipulative, and self-aggrandizing, but I think creature collection is archaiac and that Monster Taming is a superior term with Taming alone being the best end state for the genre.

I've been covering the genre for four years and we've been all using this term. I picked up the term, BECAUSE it was being used by my predecessors on the subreddit, and creators like Xorrunt and devs such as Zack, from Siralim and Jason, from Monster Crown. I'm the only bigger creator in the space, so yes obviously this would bennefit myself, but ultimately, time and time again, i pick the genre over my youtube "career" if i can call it that. I do this part time as a hobby, and have continously covered games that do not benefit my channel, just to give them an extra bump. There's nothing manipulative about it, i literally say in my post my reasons for the tag being superior.

As for "tamer" it's too broad imo, but I understand why you'd want it to include robots, I'd still say medabots is a monster tamer even if it doesnt exactly fit the definition of (monster) the same way there are robot digimon and stuff like that.

[Marleene]

"Monster taming" is a better representation of the genre than the actual one. +1 for the suggestion.

[Beautiful Doubt]

Monster Taming is a better representation than creature collecting. They arent all about "gotta catch em all"

[NJSJAMEZ]

yes, I agree

[Rideps]

Publicado originalmente por Backer5:

Tamer is a better definition that Monster Tamer, which I feel gives the connotation of excluding games with decidedly "non-Monsters", like Dinosaurs, Robots, etc.

Monster taming is a step in the right direction, but Taming I feel is the best answer to this problem.

All the reasons pertaining to use in the YouTube community I think are gross; trying to shift the community to match their brand instead of vice versa feels very greedy, manipulative, and self-aggrandizing, but I think creature collection is archaiac and that Monster Taming is a superior term with Taming alone being the best end state for the genre.

The problem with Tamer is that it will almost certainly get added incorrectly in things, because it's also an adjective for "less exciting" in addition to being, you know, the noun for the person that does the verb of taming.

You can't get away with that kind of ambiguity in a genre that already has troubles being called by a name instead of "xyz clone".

[GymLeaderEd]

Publicado originalmente por Rideps:

Publicado originalmente por Backer5:

Tamer is a better definition that Monster Tamer, which I feel gives the connotation of excluding games with decidedly "non-Monsters", like Dinosaurs, Robots, etc.

Monster taming is a step in the right direction, but Taming I feel is the best answer to this problem.

All the reasons pertaining to use in the YouTube community I think are gross; trying to shift the community to match their brand instead of vice versa feels very greedy, manipulative, and self-aggrandizing, but I think creature collection is archaiac and that Monster Taming is a superior term with Taming alone being the best end state for the genre.

The problem with Tamer is that it will almost certainly get added incorrectly in things, because it's also an adjective for "less exciting" in addition to being, you know, the noun for the person that does the verb of taming.

You can't get away with that kind of ambiguity in a genre that already has troubles being called by a name instead of "xyz clone".

Exactly, we can allow for nuance. We can still include animals, robots and others into "monster" it's not a big deal. Most Monster Taming Games already include "monsters" that aren't really monsters. Angewoman is literally a lady with wings lol. And there's a ton of non "monster" species in SMT, etc. We don't have to be literal, but I think think Monster Taming does a good job of saying what it is, isn't too broad, but is broad enough. This is why the term has been used longer than I've even been around and why I adopted it from the beginning.

[Xelophant]

Make it happen!

[Ryterex]

I agree. It includes more games that should be associated with the term. Add the tag steam!

[Tippun]

Genuinely agree with the fact that I have never said, “have you ever played that creature collector game”. Not only that but I’d rather not see more games like “chair ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sim” when I’m looking for some monster taming games

[Terminator_5232]

In full support lets do this!

[VrexViking]

This would be great to unify and expand the genre!!

[TwilightBahamut]

Agreed I usually watch gym leader ed for news on new monster taming games and whenever I go to steam and search the term to find new and exciting games for this genre steam either changes the tag or doesn't show relative content to what I'm searching for.

[PlatiPete]

Yes! Monster Taming works on a lot of levels, and is the general...used term for a while. Lets do it!

[Twilord]

Whenever people talk about this genre they immediately discuss Pokémon and Digimon. If they know their stuff Yokai Watch and Shin Megami Tensei follow not long after... but Pokémon and Digimon are the go-to examples.

Despite including it in some of the RPGs it's fair to say Digimon largely ignored collection to focus on raising, to the point that many would argue that influence in all it's variations is it's biggest contribution to the genre. In fact Pokémon only added happiness after the explosive popularity of Digimon V-Pets.

The current name you're using for the genre is therefore equivalent to using a name for Metroidvania that actively disqualifies Metroid or Castlevania from being part of it...

[GymLeaderEd]

Publicado originalmente por Twilord:

Whenever people talk about this genre they immediately discuss Pokémon and Digimon. If they know their stuff Yokai Watch and Shin Megami Tensei follow not long after... but Pokémon and Digimon are the go-to examples.

Despite including it in some of the RPGs it's fair to say Digimon largely ignored collection to focus on raising, to the point that many would argue that influence in all it's variations is it's biggest contribution to the genre. In fact Pokémon only added happiness after the explosive popularity of Digimon V-Pets.

The current name you're using for the genre is therefore equivalent to using a name for Metroidvania that actively disqualifies Metroid or Castlevania from being part of it...

THIS PERSON! THIS IS THE PERSON THAT CAME UP WITH THE 3 BRANCHES OF MONSTER TAMING!

-Monster Raising
-Monster Battling and/or
-Monster Collection