Slaine 7 DIC 2023 a las 12:07 p. m.
Pricing in Namibia
Please note, it has come to the gaming community's notice that South African Pricing on games vs Namibian pricing has a ridiculous pricing gap. Namibia's currency is linked to the South African rand and are on a 1 to 1 exchange ratio, yet we are not offered the same pricing on games that South Africa enjoys.

Epic Store takes into account our region and our currency that is linked to rand and they give better pricing in this regard.

Steam needs to take a look at this as I have noticed a definite migration of player away from the platform due to this very same issue.

Are there any other countries that experience the same issue?
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Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:00 a. m. 
@ Hikari - It is the same value as the Rand. You are not able to understand or read? First google.
Mad Scientist 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:02 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
@ Machina - We have a linked currency with means a 1 to 1 exchange. It is not about paying less but paying the same as a country who has a LINKED 1 to 1 exchange. Are you really that stupid as to not realizing what a 1 to 1 exchange is?
1 USD ≈ 18.33 ZAR • Source: XE
1 USD ≈ 25.31 ZMW • Source: XE
That is not 1-to-1.
Currencies have different values to other currencies.
Última edición por Mad Scientist; 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:03 a. m.
Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:03 a. m. 
In the end It's Steam's choice to decide on the matter but we as a whole have basically given up on them unless we see a steam game going on a huge special or a sale @ G2A.
Mad Scientist 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
In the end It's Steam's choice to decide on the matter but we as a whole have basically given up on them unless we see a steam game going on a huge special or a sale @ (removed).
If your currency is more difficult to buy things with at price, then waiting for a sale is always recommended. Overall, waiting for a sale is a good consumer practice if you want more for less money.

Do note that 3rd party sites are at your own risk and you are not guaranteed to end up with a working key, additionally, often the keys are illegally obtained and may be revoked from any account that has redeemed it.
Última edición por Mad Scientist; 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:05 a. m.
Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:07 a. m. 
@ Mad Scientist. Please read. We are not talking about the Rand vs USD exchange. We are talking about the RAND vs Namibian Dollar Exchange which is a 1 to 1 exchange. Oi! Does people not read? Let me spell it out for you. Namibia & South Africa has a common monetary system which means it is locked at 1 to 1. :steamfacepalm:
Mad Scientist 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:12 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
@ Mad Scientist. Please read. We are not talking about the Rand vs USD exchange. We are talking about the RAND vs Namibian Dollar Exchange which is a 1 to 1 exchange. Oi! Does people not read? Let me spell it out for you. Namibia & South Africa has a common monetary system which means it is locked at 1 to 1. :steamfacepalm:
To quote:
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
1 USD ≈ 18.33 ZAR • Source: XE
1 USD ≈ 25.31 ZMW • Source: XE

There's also this;
1 ZAR ≈ 1.38 ZMW • Source: XE

People can read just fine, but you're also talking about purchasing in usd, and using specific local currency that has to either be exchanged or otherwise converted tends to cause different prices. Then, there's any applicable regional price choice.
Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:19 a. m. 
We do not use the Zimbabwean dollar. It's the Namibian Dollar. Amount
1.00R From ZAR – South African Rand To NAD – Namibian Dollar

1.00 South African Rand = 1.00 Namibian Dollar

1 NAD = 1.00000 ZAR

That is also XE. Fancy he? The Exchange is the same as ZA and thus we only want the same pricing.
nullable 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:22 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
In the end It's Steam's choice to decide on the matter but we as a whole have basically given up on them unless we see a steam game going on a huge special or a sale @ ***.

Steam already has an implementation, so they've arguably already decided. Valve has not been moved to copy Epic's regional pricing scheme when some users feel it's convenient. And realistically there's no issue, if a game is cheaper on Epic, then get it on Epic. Valve may not be too worried over lower value regions and isn't motivated to try and prevent consumers from shopping anywhere else but Steam.

Steam is a store, Valve doesn't have a problem with there being other stores that are preferable to some users.
Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 6:32 a. m. 
Thank you Nullable - Exactly my point. People will move and have started to. These regions include: South Africa, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini & Botswanna. It is just a shame that Africa is the fifth-largest gaming market in the world, with a total gaming revenue of approximately US$3.3 billion in 2020. This figure is expected to increase to US$3.9 billion in 2023 - GSMA. Nope, this will not hurt at all.:steamhappy:
Homer Simpson 20 DIC 2023 a las 8:03 a. m. 
Hey Slaine, I'm following your logic. I hope Steam looks into this. I can't believe I would actually recommend someone using Epic but in your case it's probably best until this can get fixed unless you don't mind paying more to have it on Steam. Good luck bud
Sleepy Yoshi 20 DIC 2023 a las 8:49 a. m. 
It's mind boggling how many arguments are misrepresenting the situation or what's being asked for, especially given that the EU itself is already a pretty good example of how this can work because.....get this.....they're both monetary unions (The EU is more than just a monetary union ofc).

Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
@ Machina - We have a linked currency with means a 1 to 1 exchange. It is not about paying less but paying the same as a country who has a LINKED 1 to 1 exchange. Are you really that stupid as to not realizing what a 1 to 1 exchange is?
1 USD ≈ 18.33 ZAR • Source: XE
1 USD ≈ 25.31 ZMW • Source: XE
That is not 1-to-1.
Currencies have different values to other currencies.

The Rand has a floating exchange rate while all the other members of the common monetary area's local currencies are fixed and pegged at parity with the Rand. The currency you chose, is not a member of said union, so ya, that's why there's a difference in the exchange rate. If you actually look at the Losotho loti, Namibian dollar and Swazi lilangeni you'll find they will trade at the exact same rate as the Rand in the same moment of time.

Currency pegs are quite common, albeit not usually at parity. An example of this is Saudi Arabia which is pegged with USD. 3.75 Riyal is always 1 USD. Doesn't matter what day you look at or what time. So 3.75 Riyal converted to CAD will be the same as 1 USD converted to CAD etc. That's how fixed exchange rates work.
Última edición por Sleepy Yoshi; 20 DIC 2023 a las 9:04 a. m.
Slaine 20 DIC 2023 a las 2:09 p. m. 
Oi Yoshi - You simply dont get it do you? I live in Namibia not the USA. :steambored:
HikariLight 20 DIC 2023 a las 3:08 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
Oi Yoshi - You simply dont get it do you? I live in Namibia not the USA. :steambored:
And Steam is an American owned business.
So any regions currency eventually gets converted into USD before being sent out to the game devs in the currencies they want.
Your regions currency has a weaker spending power than the USD.
Última edición por HikariLight; 20 DIC 2023 a las 3:42 p. m.
nullable 20 DIC 2023 a las 3:41 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
Thank you Nullable - Exactly my point. People will move and have started to. These regions include: South Africa, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini & Botswanna. It is just a shame that Africa is the fifth-largest gaming market in the world, with a total gaming revenue of approximately US$3.3 billion in 2020. This figure is expected to increase to US$3.9 billion in 2023 - GSMA. Nope, this will not hurt at all.:steamhappy:

Ok, what percentage of that is PC games? Somewhere south of 100%, and somewhere south of 90%, way south. I'm gonna wager 3 billion is split between consoles and mobile devices. And 900 million split between publishers and other stores. But let's say Valve makes up 50% of PC sales. So 450 million, and Valve's percentage is between 20-30% depending on how well a game has done. So $135 million at 30%. Not you subtract all the costs for operating in Africa, taxes and whatnot. And we're probably less than $70 million. I mean it's a chunk of change for you or me, but it's not going to change much at Valve.

Oh and let's not forget that gamers on the entire continent of Africa don't act in unison either. So while you may imagine mass exoduses and whatnot, let's just say half stop using Steam. Well, Valve is still making millions just in Africa. But maybe it's not going to hurt so much as you imagine...

My math may not be terribly accurate, but it's closer than implying Valve generates anything close to 3.9 Billion USD in revenue from Africa. :KentHappy:
Última edición por nullable; 20 DIC 2023 a las 3:46 p. m.
Sleepy Yoshi 20 DIC 2023 a las 9:05 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Slaine:
Oi Yoshi - You simply dont get it do you? I live in Namibia not the USA. :steambored:

Yes I got that and I'm not suggesting you should pay USD at all, but rather the opposite. My point was there is already an example for this with countries in the EU using Euro instead of a countries local currency. So these African countries as a monetary union as well, should all be using Rand since it's the official currency of said union. It doesn't make sense that outside of South Africa, every country in said union is paying in USD.

I was just pointing out that the arguments saying why they 'should' use USD are ignoring the union aspect and focusing on things that are either not true (only exchanged on a one-to one basis locally), misunderstanding how fixed exchange rates work, or irrelevant (purchase power). Hope that clears up the misunderstanding.
Última edición por Sleepy Yoshi; 20 DIC 2023 a las 9:33 p. m.
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