Method to reduce review bombing

[Logan]

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

[feytharn]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

That would inadvertedly screw the reviews up because players who do not like the game have to chose between leaving a negative review and refunding the game.

[Crunchipop / TTV]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

agree, i think reviews need be forced to atleast 10 hours, with less hours this is really wasted, i really not care actually reviews, example, one game with many haters can reach to bad reviews really fast, then , i usually dont care steam reviews, i just check streams, videos, gameplays.....

[Nx Machina]

You already have to have the game in your library to review and i can personally tell within two hours if i want to continue or refund therefore either of these reviews would be valid.

Recommended: Overall a great game so far but the jump mechanic needs tighter control as you feel you are more likely to fall than succeed but that may be a timing issue on my part.

(Playtime 1.5 hours)

Not recommended: Despite the premise being great the gameplay makes you feel as though you are wading through molasses rather than actually playing the game and this includes the odd choice of mechanics which do not feel intuitive. The slow combat pace makes it feel as though the game is turn based rather that real time with pause.

(Playtime 1.25 hours).

And finally the refund policy of: WITHIN 2 weeks of purchase AND with LESS than 2 hours playtime would be invalidated by this suggestion.

As a sidenote in response to:

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion,

According to your review of Starfield you did not purchase the game, you got it with your new AMD CPU, therefore it was a key activation.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197961775064/recommended/

https://ibb.co/zXrhxtc

[Aachen]

“You can only express your opinion if you idle long enough (and void your ability to refund)” accomplishes nothing of value.

[Pscht]

Oh, it's another one of these "a game I like shouldn't get downvotes, or if it does the downvoters should not be able to refund. For their own good!" threads.

[Brian9824]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

You can already filter reviews out to only show you ones with a specific number of hours. Also your suggestion would make every game overwhelmingly positive as no one could leave a negative review and refund a game, as they'd have to play it to the point they couldn't refund to tell someone its bad.

Sometimes you don't need to eat 1/2 a tomato, eel, and cottage cheese sandwhich to know it tastes bad.

[Tito Shivan]

I don't need to fully eat a crap sandwich to review it as crap.

[Start_Running]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

How many bites of a ♥♥♥♥ sandwich does one need to take before one can say it is indeed a ♥♥♥♥ sandwich?

I mean you can already filter out playtimes that are short. But here's the thing. If people are going to have to choose between getting their money vback for a crap game,. and leaving a review telling others that it is a crap game... well guess what you're going to see a drop in negative reviews over all. and thusly the review system will geain a strong positive bias that is actually detrimental to the consumer andn the system as a while.

[Gwarsbane]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

This yet again... would be nice if people used the search feature and read why their idea is bad in all the other threads just like it...

Valve already tries to counter review bombing. Not much they can do about it.

Your idea, which others have posted many times before, would not help at all because it would heavily skew everything positive just because people would have a choice to make, leave a review or get a refund.

If I can't get a game to work, or it just sucks, why would I keep it? I wouldn't.

Also if someone can't get it to run for more then a few seconds at a time, trying to get a few minutes for play time is hard enough to leave a negative review, imagine trying to get it to run for 10 hours to leave a negative review.


This is a bad idea just like all the other times its been suggested.

[MonkehMaster]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

sorry, but your opinion of when/ect.. a person should be allowed a review is simply bad.

also to mention, just because you cant get the gist of a game without playing the full thing, doesnt mean others cant, i dont need to play a game for hours on end to understand if i like it, or not... or if its bad, poorly coded, unoptimized, cash grab and other various cash grab mechanics.

you want to reduce review bombing? start in the positive review section, clear out all the spam reviews, 1/2 words, 1/2 letter/numbers/symbol, blank, ascii spam, copy/paste, points farming, people making positive reviews to spite negatives, ect..

more review bombing goes on in positive reviews (which skew said game(S) higher then they should be) than anything in negative reviews.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ah, the standard anti-consumer suggestion to force people to choose between a review and a refund. And to skew the results in their favor cause the games they like got negative reviews.

I don't need hours to know whether I do or do not want to continue playing or whether I do or do not recommend a game, I rarely need more than an hour for that (yes, even on the big, large games that take dozens of hours). I should be able to review a game when I want it.

There exists a filter so you can filter reviews on playtime, with both minimum and maximum you can set. Use that to only see the reviews that fit your limited view.

MonkehMaster の投稿を引用：

more review bombing goes on in positive reviews (which skew said game(S) higher then they should be) than anything in negative reviews.

True. That gets forgotten quite a lot.

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

So if a game is nothing but major bugs that causes the game to not work properly can't write a review because they don't got 20 hours in said game because it's a broken game.

[The End]

Logan の投稿を引用：

There needs to be a way to limit reviews to only those accounts that have purchased the game and played for a minimum number of hours as a percentage of game completion, or at least a method to filter out the reviews that don't meet both criteria. If the average play time for a game is 40 hours then a player who played for 2 hours really doesn't have enough experience for a relevant option.

People who can't get a game to work or decide within the refund window they don't like the game has all rights to make their opinion about said game.

Valve has ways to counter review-bombs.

What you ask is reducing negative "reviews" that would be a dishonest system.

Thanks but no thanks.

[76561197960287930]

I'm all for fair and honest reviews from users positive or negative, refunds, no matter the play time, as long as they are not using multiple accounts to spam reviews, or spamming their entire library with the same garbage on each game for the points.

CS2 got positive review bombed again today by 100's of apparent bot accounts spouting the same quotes over and over out of a single Steam User Group. Seems to happen every 2 weeks or so, low level accounts in the 100's spamming single reviews for CS2 in a single day, Valve don't even remove them.

Valve tried. Just accept bad business practice of Valve not ever even trying, reviewing or removing the reviews, of bots, spams, fakes, ascii art themselves, even allowing users to reward bad reviews, review manipulation.

[American Dove Mitten]

The main reason it would not work is that Idling tools are too widespread across the Steam platform.

A lot of bots I have seen can drop as much as 40 hours into games without playing them, so you can't gate them using time