Remove the hide specific games feature

[KING]

There's no reason for it and only damages steam's reputation and separates users even more.
You had two perfectly fine options before, if you were ok showing your library you had it public, if not, you made it private or your whole profile private, which was a statement in itself. You also had the ability to remove certain games from your library through support if you really didn't want them.

With the new feature there is no point in calling it a steam library anymore, because it isn't your complete library, it is just what you're ok showing. However, there is already a feature called game showcase. So which is it? Realistically if you're just showing the games you want to show, it's a game showcase, not your steam library, since your steam library has more games that you aren't ok showing. So this defeats the purpose of steam having something they call a "games" section on someones profile, or referring to it as a library.

Not only that, now you have no idea what degenerates you're playing with, so it's better not to socialize on steam and make new friends, because you have no idea which of them have 8 different faces and they're showing you just the one you are ok with seeing without you knowing of the 7 others. Aka, fake individuals, and I don't think you'd want those as your friends if you can avoid it, but this might differ on how desperate you are, and now you can't even determine who is and who isn't one for instance, so you're probably going to be more hesitant towards any steam user because of this feature. At least I will.

Bad take from Valve/Steam and I hope this gets canceled in from being pushed onto all users. However if it does indeed pass(and it probably will), I'm assuming what's coming next is dedicated backgrounds, aka you selecting specific backgrounds for specific users. So to your work friends you have a normal background, and to your degen discrod friends you can have the anime booba ones. All to make sure your feelings don't get hurt. Then we just need valve instead of selling a steam deck to sell the steam branded dildo's and we will have a proper porn platform. Thank you valve.

[KING]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mensis:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Wow how dare anyone disagree with you, that makes them upset and writing in detail is also a sin nowadays get the cross. Really?

Wow how dare anyone play porn games, that makes them degenerates and privating your library is also a sin nowadays gets the cross. Really?

That's not it. It's right over your head of course. Im not concerned if they played them and that doesn't make them degens. I'd prefer they also play some other games if they want to become friends. I'd also prefer they aren't afraid of telling me their game interests. So if all they play is porn games, chances are wont connect on much. That's fine because there's communities for those that do so they can connect with their type. But if that's their main interest, and they can't be honest with me and they'll pretend they play normal games and no porn games, and they have to fake some illusion to me, than yeah they're degenerate and I'd prefer to look for people who aren't afraid of who they are. Not sure why I'm the bad guy for looking for people who want to be themselves but I understand you woke up and wanted to take some anger out on someone today at random for no reason other than the satisfaction of disagreeing, so by all means, give it your best.

[peppermint hollows]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

For someone who claims to be generally pretty nice you're extremely quick to call others degenerates and be judgemental over something that's ultimately really petty.

It's not petty because the feature wouldn't exist for a proper purpose and I already explained why. I understand reading is hard and I know I write in detail and people have the attention span of a labrador so I'll explain it to you again.

People already had a way to hide their library if they were ashamed of it by going private. If it bothered them in their library, they could hide it there but it would still show in the games section on their profile, a section they never go to launch games or anything. Lastly they could still remove the game from their library if it was something they didn't want. Some of the things to consider are, if you didn't want it, why did you get it? Also, this new feature as much as it provides functionality to create a fake library, it also mixes in the honest people with the fake people. So steam should've provided some notice as to which library has been altered and which hasn't. As for the users, this is all about impressing others. Once again, if it bothered them in their library, they can just hide it there where they launch the games. But this is all about them creating a fake persona for others on the internet because they're ashamed of who they are. So yeah, blame me for promoting people feeling confident enough with themselves. Instead, lets promote people going back into the closet, lets promote harassment in the future for said people if they ever reveal who they are etc. Rather than them building their communities, it's better for them to live a lie. All for some sorry excuse of privacy options which they already had. Of course I'm calling this bs out. I don't mind being judgmental. It's a petty tiny feature hence why I recommended we full send it with backgrounds showing specifically to specific users, and branded dildo's with the newest haptics features available. Except with this petty tiny feature you can't tell whos being honest about their library with you or not anymore, hence why I also said that I don't trust steam users anymore, and therefore wont be looking to be making new friends here anymore. If that makes me the bad guy for also looking for genuine people who aren't afraid of being honest with me, by all means, I'll be the worst you ever met.

You're falsely under the impression that just because people are disagreeing with you means they aren't reading what you wrote. Sorry, but as has been pointed out to you not everyone thinks in the same way as you do. If you really aren't trolling and this is genuinely how you feel about it, then it's whatever. I disagree heavily but obviously you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that not all other people view friends or Steam friends in the same way as you. And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.

[KING]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sleepy Yoshi:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Simple, because they have the decency to take their degeneracy to their private space, a separate acc. Or make their acc wholly private. If they clock in 150 hours a week in hentai master but I see it doesn't go to the games we play all the time, I'll be really disappointed once I find out they're a coward. So it's a very different situation from my pov. Because in one they're doing it in the proper place, in the other, they are trying to pretend they're gaming but they aren't.

You brought up issues with misrepresentation and hiding what they're playing. Why is it decent to hide their hentai play from you on a separate account, but it's abhorrent to hide it from you on their main account?

Why is misrepresenting their gaming habits fine if it occurs on an alt account, but detestable on their main account? I'm really struggling to see the logical consistency here.

What makes an alt account a proper place, but a main account improper?

Sure I'll entertain. (an example where you and I are not really you or I) I think if you and I were in public, and you took your shirt off to change to another shirt, and underneath you had a full bondage suit on, my opinion of you would probably change. I am assuming most people's opinions would too. However if you did this at home in the bedroom, it would be considered the right place to do as such. Your main account(in public) is a representation of you to me. I would understand if on your private account(in the bedroom) you did this because there's certain places for everything. Hence why I advocated for steam to split their porn games onto a separate platform. I hope this answers your second question as well, since it seems to be the exact same as the first one. I look at main accounts as a representation of a user, especially if they're public. Faking that public information to me, makes that person untrustworthy. Until recently you couldn't do so or you'd have to go private, effectively turning your main into a bedroom account, which again, is fine because you did go private. However, now you're in public wearing bondage gear. Don't get me wrong, sexy, but also kinda weird, because I don't want to imagine everyone on steam wearing bondage gear underneath their skin as we play, although, now I can't tell anymore can I. So it isn't unfair for me to consider not looking to add new friends.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mensis:

Well, I'm not the one who wrote an entire essay getting bothered over the existence of a feature that shouldn't affect me so deeply, so whatever you say.

right?

dude is really ticked he doesn't get to snoop on others

[KING]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

It's not petty because the feature wouldn't exist for a proper purpose and I already explained why. I understand reading is hard and I know I write in detail and people have the attention span of a labrador so I'll explain it to you again.

People already had a way to hide their library if they were ashamed of it by going private. If it bothered them in their library, they could hide it there but it would still show in the games section on their profile, a section they never go to launch games or anything. Lastly they could still remove the game from their library if it was something they didn't want. Some of the things to consider are, if you didn't want it, why did you get it? Also, this new feature as much as it provides functionality to create a fake library, it also mixes in the honest people with the fake people. So steam should've provided some notice as to which library has been altered and which hasn't. As for the users, this is all about impressing others. Once again, if it bothered them in their library, they can just hide it there where they launch the games. But this is all about them creating a fake persona for others on the internet because they're ashamed of who they are. So yeah, blame me for promoting people feeling confident enough with themselves. Instead, lets promote people going back into the closet, lets promote harassment in the future for said people if they ever reveal who they are etc. Rather than them building their communities, it's better for them to live a lie. All for some sorry excuse of privacy options which they already had. Of course I'm calling this bs out. I don't mind being judgmental. It's a petty tiny feature hence why I recommended we full send it with backgrounds showing specifically to specific users, and branded dildo's with the newest haptics features available. Except with this petty tiny feature you can't tell whos being honest about their library with you or not anymore, hence why I also said that I don't trust steam users anymore, and therefore wont be looking to be making new friends here anymore. If that makes me the bad guy for also looking for genuine people who aren't afraid of being honest with me, by all means, I'll be the worst you ever met.

You're falsely under the impression that just because people are disagreeing with you means they aren't reading what you wrote. Sorry, but as has been pointed out to you not everyone thinks in the same way as you do. If you really aren't trolling and this is genuinely how you feel about it, then it's whatever. I disagree heavily but obviously you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that not all other people view friends or Steam friends in the same way as you. And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.

I mean most people in this thread lack comprehension skills, That isn't my fault.

By all means then we agree to disagree. That's okay with me, but that doesn't mean it's changing my opinion or I'll stop promoting it despite knowing fully well valve doesn't read this and that change will go into effect and what effect it will have over time. I can provide points to support my pov, however people can't seem to turn those points down, so technically I haven't been wrong about the points I made. It's perfectly find to disagree with me, but when my points can't be argued against, it means my argument is pretty strong and as is the case I am of course very confident in my opinion. A lot of people disagree with my opinion, but people can't argue against it properly although some decent points have been made, hence why I pointed at least steam could've compromised and indicated whether a library has or hasn't ben altered. Yet that doesn't seem to satisfy anyone either.

Of course not all see the same as me, if every single human saw the same as any of us in this thread that would be a bad thing for well anything. It's great that we can have different opinions. The important part is who is technically more correct and while this feature is going live soon, I think I'm technically more correct since I haven't been proven wrong, instead it's just been people going as much off topic as they could and deviating. That doesn't matter because again this feature is live so I'm still losing to valve and they don't read the discussions and they could care less if they hurt some users, but I think this belongs here even though some don't.

As for "And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.", yes, we discussed this before, but it wasn't exactly all or nothing. People could remove individual games from their library altogether or hide individual ones in their view of the library but not in the game section. So it wasn't all or nothing, they didn't have to remove all games, just the ones they didn't want. This feature enables lying to your friends or others who might see your profile, in fact, I don't know why else it exists. It's not about their friends or others being entitled to see this information. It's about that user not being comfortable or confident to do so to even their own friends. Even more so, they would rather antagonize their own kind by doing so and pretending they are what they aren't, then be honest about themselves. So it's about the integrity of the steam platform and the trust in between users. While this doesn't affect you, I'm sure there are others who are unaware of this who feel the same as me. Doesn't mean it's every single steam user. But for some of us, this is a major step backwards. So I explained my resolution if this goes live across the platform, which it probably will, and that is that I will no longer be accepting invites on steam or seeking to connect with others here. At least unless they add an option to see which libraries have been modified or not. However as you said that doesn't apply to you and how you approach things and in such case I wish you the best with this new feature and what you use it for. For me however in this current state it's the end of my socializing on steam. It's a feature that I consider harmful to finding new connections on steam and so I wont make new ones.

[KING]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KalCuey:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mensis:

Well, I'm not the one who wrote an entire essay getting bothered over the existence of a feature that shouldn't affect me so deeply, so whatever you say.

right?

dude is really ticked he doesn't get to snoop on others

You're missing the point. It's about being comfortable with who you are. If I'm at fault for wanting friends that are okay with playing the games they enjoy, despite now not being able to tell who is who and not wanting to trust random pretenders, then sure, blame me as much as you want for it if that brings you some sort of satisfaction. Blame me for everything, as long as that brings you joy. Make yourself happy today man. Get it all out. Kinda weird, but I mean I don't know what else you want.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

It's not petty because the feature wouldn't exist for a proper purpose and I already explained why. I understand reading is hard and I know I write in detail and people have the attention span of a labrador so I'll explain it to you again.

People already had a way to hide their library if they were ashamed of it by going private. If it bothered them in their library, they could hide it there but it would still show in the games section on their profile, a section they never go to launch games or anything. Lastly they could still remove the game from their library if it was something they didn't want. Some of the things to consider are, if you didn't want it, why did you get it? Also, this new feature as much as it provides functionality to create a fake library, it also mixes in the honest people with the fake people. So steam should've provided some notice as to which library has been altered and which hasn't. As for the users, this is all about impressing others. Once again, if it bothered them in their library, they can just hide it there where they launch the games. But this is all about them creating a fake persona for others on the internet because they're ashamed of who they are. So yeah, blame me for promoting people feeling confident enough with themselves. Instead, lets promote people going back into the closet, lets promote harassment in the future for said people if they ever reveal who they are etc. Rather than them building their communities, it's better for them to live a lie. All for some sorry excuse of privacy options which they already had. Of course I'm calling this bs out. I don't mind being judgmental. It's a petty tiny feature hence why I recommended we full send it with backgrounds showing specifically to specific users, and branded dildo's with the newest haptics features available. Except with this petty tiny feature you can't tell whos being honest about their library with you or not anymore, hence why I also said that I don't trust steam users anymore, and therefore wont be looking to be making new friends here anymore. If that makes me the bad guy for also looking for genuine people who aren't afraid of being honest with me, by all means, I'll be the worst you ever met.

You're falsely under the impression that just because people are disagreeing with you means they aren't reading what you wrote. Sorry, but as has been pointed out to you not everyone thinks in the same way as you do. If you really aren't trolling and this is genuinely how you feel about it, then it's whatever. I disagree heavily but obviously you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that not all other people view friends or Steam friends in the same way as you. And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.

it is really keeping them up at night, apparently

wonder if i can mark them all private while keeping the profile public

back in a flash!

[peppermint hollows]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

You're falsely under the impression that just because people are disagreeing with you means they aren't reading what you wrote. Sorry, but as has been pointed out to you not everyone thinks in the same way as you do. If you really aren't trolling and this is genuinely how you feel about it, then it's whatever. I disagree heavily but obviously you are entitled to your opinion. That being said, it doesn't change the fact that not all other people view friends or Steam friends in the same way as you. And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.

I mean most people in this thread lack comprehension skills, That isn't my fault.

By all means then we agree to disagree. That's okay with me, but that doesn't mean it's changing my opinion or I'll stop promoting it despite knowing fully well valve doesn't read this and that change will go into effect and what effect it will have over time. I can provide points to support my pov, however people can't seem to turn those points down, so technically I haven't been wrong about the points I made. It's perfectly find to disagree with me, but when my points can't be argued against, it means my argument is pretty strong and as is the case I am of course very confident in my opinion. A lot of people disagree with my opinion, but people can't argue against it properly although some decent points have been made, hence why I pointed at least steam could've compromised and indicated whether a library has or hasn't ben altered. Yet that doesn't seem to satisfy anyone either.

Of course not all see the same as me, if every single human saw the same as any of us in this thread that would be a bad thing for well anything. It's great that we can have different opinions. The important part is who is technically more correct and while this feature is going live soon, I think I'm technically more correct since I haven't been proven wrong, instead it's just been people going as much off topic as they could and deviating. That doesn't matter because again this feature is live so I'm still losing to valve and they don't read the discussions and they could care less if they hurt some users, but I think this belongs here even though some don't.

As for "And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.", yes, we discussed this before, but it wasn't exactly all or nothing. People could remove individual games from their library altogether or hide individual ones in their view of the library but not in the game section. So it wasn't all or nothing, they didn't have to remove all games, just the ones they didn't want. This feature enables lying to your friends or others who might see your profile, in fact, I don't know why else it exists. It's not about their friends or others being entitled to see this information. It's about that user not being comfortable or confident to do so to even their own friends. Even more so, they would rather antagonize their own kind by doing so and pretending they are what they aren't, then be honest about themselves. So it's about the integrity of the steam platform and the trust in between users. While this doesn't affect you, I'm sure there are others who are unaware of this who feel the same as me. Doesn't mean it's every single steam user. But for some of us, this is a major step backwards. So I explained my resolution if this goes live across the platform, which it probably will, and that is that I will no longer be accepting invites on steam or seeking to connect with others here. At least unless they add an option to see which libraries have been modified or not. However as you said that doesn't apply to you and how you approach things and in such case I wish you the best with this new feature and what you use it for. For me however in this current state it's the end of my socializing on steam. It's a feature that I consider harmful to finding new connections on steam and so I wont make new ones.

I don't think your argument is as strong as you think it is, and you are also not "technically more correct." The issue is that this is ultimately subjective and obviously it's going to be hard to convince you because you simply don't have the same views or "standards" to your friends as other people on this thread. I'm not going to say most people overall care or not because it's impossible to gauge that, but obviously almost everyone on this thread who has replied so far is not bothered by whether or not someone on their friends list would choose to hide specific games in their library.

I don't think it's possible for you to be "more correct" on this or someone else to be "less correct" because again, it's subjective to begin with whether or not this is going to be an issue for an individual person.

[KING]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

I mean most people in this thread lack comprehension skills, That isn't my fault.

By all means then we agree to disagree. That's okay with me, but that doesn't mean it's changing my opinion or I'll stop promoting it despite knowing fully well valve doesn't read this and that change will go into effect and what effect it will have over time. I can provide points to support my pov, however people can't seem to turn those points down, so technically I haven't been wrong about the points I made. It's perfectly find to disagree with me, but when my points can't be argued against, it means my argument is pretty strong and as is the case I am of course very confident in my opinion. A lot of people disagree with my opinion, but people can't argue against it properly although some decent points have been made, hence why I pointed at least steam could've compromised and indicated whether a library has or hasn't ben altered. Yet that doesn't seem to satisfy anyone either.

Of course not all see the same as me, if every single human saw the same as any of us in this thread that would be a bad thing for well anything. It's great that we can have different opinions. The important part is who is technically more correct and while this feature is going live soon, I think I'm technically more correct since I haven't been proven wrong, instead it's just been people going as much off topic as they could and deviating. That doesn't matter because again this feature is live so I'm still losing to valve and they don't read the discussions and they could care less if they hurt some users, but I think this belongs here even though some don't.

As for "And no, they didn't already have these privacy options because it was always all or nothing before. Now you have the option to hide what games you want and leaves the one you don't want hidden public.", yes, we discussed this before, but it wasn't exactly all or nothing. People could remove individual games from their library altogether or hide individual ones in their view of the library but not in the game section. So it wasn't all or nothing, they didn't have to remove all games, just the ones they didn't want. This feature enables lying to your friends or others who might see your profile, in fact, I don't know why else it exists. It's not about their friends or others being entitled to see this information. It's about that user not being comfortable or confident to do so to even their own friends. Even more so, they would rather antagonize their own kind by doing so and pretending they are what they aren't, then be honest about themselves. So it's about the integrity of the steam platform and the trust in between users. While this doesn't affect you, I'm sure there are others who are unaware of this who feel the same as me. Doesn't mean it's every single steam user. But for some of us, this is a major step backwards. So I explained my resolution if this goes live across the platform, which it probably will, and that is that I will no longer be accepting invites on steam or seeking to connect with others here. At least unless they add an option to see which libraries have been modified or not. However as you said that doesn't apply to you and how you approach things and in such case I wish you the best with this new feature and what you use it for. For me however in this current state it's the end of my socializing on steam. It's a feature that I consider harmful to finding new connections on steam and so I wont make new ones.

I don't think your argument is as strong as you think it is, and you are also not "technically more correct." The issue is that this is ultimately subjective and obviously it's going to be hard to convince you because you simply don't have the same views or "standards" to your friends as other people on this thread. I'm not going to say most people overall care or not because it's impossible to gauge that, but obviously almost everyone on this thread who has replied so far is not bothered by whether or not someone on their friends list would choose to hide specific games in their library.

I don't think it's possible for you to be "more correct" on this or someone else to be "less correct" because again, it's subjective to begin with whether or not this is going to be an issue for an individual person.

I see we disagree again. I haven't received proper counter arguments to my opinion other than "more privacy is good", which I already agreed to. That doesn't mean that I'm on the opinion that more privacy should come at the cost of all those other features. However people haven't said much else so I haven't been discouraged at all. You're basically saying I wrote a thread and attracted people with private profiles who need this feature most likely for the purpose I have originally said it was listed for, which isn't surprising, because you're bound to find much more opposition whatever thread you make, for two reasons, people just like to disagree for fun, and people need this feature for malicious reasons.

We disagree on the second point as well. I have listed multiple reasons against this one single feature and noted how it negatively impacts all of those, while noting it's positives too for said users, and again noting why said positives are actually negatives in the long term.

[peppermint hollows]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

I don't think your argument is as strong as you think it is, and you are also not "technically more correct." The issue is that this is ultimately subjective and obviously it's going to be hard to convince you because you simply don't have the same views or "standards" to your friends as other people on this thread. I'm not going to say most people overall care or not because it's impossible to gauge that, but obviously almost everyone on this thread who has replied so far is not bothered by whether or not someone on their friends list would choose to hide specific games in their library.

I don't think it's possible for you to be "more correct" on this or someone else to be "less correct" because again, it's subjective to begin with whether or not this is going to be an issue for an individual person.

I see we disagree again. I haven't received proper counter arguments to my opinion other than "more privacy is good", which I already agreed to. That doesn't mean that I'm on the opinion that more privacy should come at the cost of all those other features. However people haven't said much else so I haven't been discouraged at all. You're basically saying I wrote a thread and attracted people with private profiles who need this feature most likely for the purpose I have originally said it was listed for, which isn't surprising, because you're bound to find much more opposition whatever thread you make, for two reasons, people just like to disagree for fun, and people need this feature for malicious reasons.

We disagree on the second point as well. I have listed multiple reasons against this one single feature and noted how it negatively impacts all of those, while noting it's positives too for said users, and again noting why said positives are actually negatives in the long term.

Not true. While there are some people here disagreeing who have private profiles or games, there are also several people here who have completely public profiles and public games & hours disagreeing (myself included). Acting like it's only private profiles coming here to disagree with you is quite frankly being disingenuous.

And again, what you're calling "malicious reasons" or long term "negatives" are non-issues to a lot of people which is the crux of this discussion, there are clearly many people who don't think it will be a negative in the long run or don't base their trust on knowing which games users play, or find that the only way to connect with people on Steam.

Not only that but you opened the thread by saying things like "now you have no idea what degenerates you're playing with" and calling people "fake individuals" because you "have no idea which of them have 8 different faces" even though this is already an inherent attribute of only knowing someone through the internet. And even then, a lot of people already have "different faces" in real life and it often depends on the environment they're in or the people they're currently in the presence of and there is absolutely no way for you to know otherwise.

I hope you can understand and have some self-awareness on how calling people "degenerates" is going to come across to someone browsing through this forum and clicking on your thread.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

I see we disagree again. I haven't received proper counter arguments to my opinion other than "more privacy is good", which I already agreed to. That doesn't mean that I'm on the opinion that more privacy should come at the cost of all those other features. However people haven't said much else so I haven't been discouraged at all. You're basically saying I wrote a thread and attracted people with private profiles who need this feature most likely for the purpose I have originally said it was listed for, which isn't surprising, because you're bound to find much more opposition whatever thread you make, for two reasons, people just like to disagree for fun, and people need this feature for malicious reasons.

We disagree on the second point as well. I have listed multiple reasons against this one single feature and noted how it negatively impacts all of those, while noting it's positives too for said users, and again noting why said positives are actually negatives in the long term.

Not true. While there are some people here disagreeing who have private profiles or games, there are also several people here who have completely public profiles and public games & hours disagreeing (myself included). Acting like it's only private profiles coming here to disagree with you is quite frankly being disingenuous.

And again, what you're calling "malicious reasons" or long term "negatives" are non-issues to a lot of people which is the crux of this discussion, there are clearly many people who don't think it will be a negative in the long run or don't base their trust on knowing which games users play, or find that the only way to connect with people on Steam.

Not only that but you opened the thread by saying things like "now you have no idea what degenerates you're playing with" and calling people "fake individuals" because you "have no idea which of them have 8 different faces" even though this is already an inherent attribute of only knowing someone through the internet. And even then, a lot of people already have "different faces" in real life and it often depends on the environment they're in or the people they're currently in the presence of and there is absolutely no way for you to know otherwise.

I hope you can understand and have some self-awareness on how calling people "degenerates" is going to come across to someone browsing through this forum and clicking on your thread.

It's always wild to me when people say there are no "proper" counter arguments when literally the initial argument made isn't based on anything proper to begin with.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SlowMango:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von peppermint hollows:

Not true. While there are some people here disagreeing who have private profiles or games, there are also several people here who have completely public profiles and public games & hours disagreeing (myself included). Acting like it's only private profiles coming here to disagree with you is quite frankly being disingenuous.

And again, what you're calling "malicious reasons" or long term "negatives" are non-issues to a lot of people which is the crux of this discussion, there are clearly many people who don't think it will be a negative in the long run or don't base their trust on knowing which games users play, or find that the only way to connect with people on Steam.

Not only that but you opened the thread by saying things like "now you have no idea what degenerates you're playing with" and calling people "fake individuals" because you "have no idea which of them have 8 different faces" even though this is already an inherent attribute of only knowing someone through the internet. And even then, a lot of people already have "different faces" in real life and it often depends on the environment they're in or the people they're currently in the presence of and there is absolutely no way for you to know otherwise.

I hope you can understand and have some self-awareness on how calling people "degenerates" is going to come across to someone browsing through this forum and clicking on your thread.

It's always wild to me when people say there are no "proper" counter arguments when literally the initial argument made isn't based on anything proper to begin with.

no kidding

gotta say

if someone is going to dismiss me because they cannot see every game i play

i cannot imagine i am missing out on much

[Tito Shivan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

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FYI: Your quoting is wrong.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sleepy Yoshi:

You brought up issues with misrepresentation and hiding what they're playing. Why is it decent to hide their hentai play from you on a separate account, but it's abhorrent to hide it from you on their main account?

Why is misrepresenting their gaming habits fine if it occurs on an alt account, but detestable on their main account? I'm really struggling to see the logical consistency here.

What makes an alt account a proper place, but a main account improper?

Sure I'll entertain. (an example where you and I are not really you or I) I think if you and I were in public, and you took your shirt off to change to another shirt, and underneath you had a full bondage suit on, my opinion of you would probably change. I am assuming most people's opinions would too. However if you did this at home in the bedroom, it would be considered the right place to do as such. Your main account(in public) is a representation of you to me. I would understand if on your private account(in the bedroom) you did this because there's certain places for everything. Hence why I advocated for steam to split their porn games onto a separate platform. I hope this answers your second question as well, since it seems to be the exact same as the first one. I look at main accounts as a representation of a user, especially if they're public. Faking that public information to me, makes that person untrustworthy. Until recently you couldn't do so or you'd have to go private, effectively turning your main into a bedroom account, which again, is fine because you did go private. However, now you're in public wearing bondage gear. Don't get me wrong, sexy, but also kinda weird, because I don't want to imagine everyone on steam wearing bondage gear underneath their skin as we play, although, now I can't tell anymore can I. So it isn't unfair for me to consider not looking to add new friends.

While this is interesting, I still can't help but wonder how you can not see how disjointed this is with the arguments you've made.

Random guy w wears bondage gear under his clothes.
Random guy x wears bondage gear under his clothes.
Random guy y wears bondage gear under his clothes.
Random guy z wears bondage gear under his clothes.
All four wear bondage gear. (that's a lot of bondage)

Random guy w changes his shirt in public. You now know he wears bondage gear.
Random guy x changes his shirt in the bedroom. You do not know he wears bondage gear.
Random guy y dresses up in a wig and paints his face before changing in public. You know he wears bondage gear, but do not know who he is.
Random guy z has two shirts on over his bondage gear and takes one off. You do not know he wears bondage gear.

Guy w is the equivalent of a public profile who openly plays pornographic games.
Guy x is the equivalent of a private account who plays pornographic games.
Guy y is the equivalent of an alternate account who openly plays pornographic games under an assumed identity.
Guy z is the equivalent of a public profile who hides the individual pornographic games played.

You have argued heavily that one of the key area's of concern is users misrepresenting themselves and the fact that you now "can not know" who someone is. You do not want to be friends and associate with people in bondage gear and such avoid guy w. You equally avoid guy x because you believe the fact he changes in his bedroom is suspect.

However, guy y and z have managed to make it onto your friends list. You do not know they wear bondage gear because they have both chosen to hide the fact. In different ways, but hidden none the less and in both cases bondage gear is a part of who they are whether you know it or not. And you can not know unless they choose to share it with you.

Again, you can't know before and you can't know now what someone plays. If the games you play define who you are this is true no matter what account you play them on. A main profile being an extension of self makes sense when you define a person by the games they play, but that also applies to an alt account. This is what I mean by inconsistent. You've made allowances for one, because it's necessary in arguing that this makes the platform worse, even though those allowances fly in the face of what you're calling problematic.

[Psymon²]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von KING:

There's no reason for it and only damages steam's reputation and separates users even more.
You had two perfectly fine options before, if you were ok showing your library you had it public, if not, you made it private or your whole profile private, which was a statement in itself. You also had the ability to remove certain games from your library through support if you really didn't want them.

With the new feature there is no point in calling it a steam library anymore, because it isn't your complete library, it is just what you're ok showing. However, there is already a feature called game showcase. So which is it? Realistically if you're just showing the games you want to show, it's a game showcase, not your steam library, since your steam library has more games that you aren't ok showing. So this defeats the purpose of steam having something they call a "games" section on someones profile, or referring to it as a library.

Not only that, now you have no idea what degenerates you're playing with, so it's better not to socialize on steam and make new friends, because you have no idea which of them have 8 different faces and they're showing you just the one you are ok with seeing without you knowing of the 7 others. Aka, fake individuals, and I don't think you'd want those as your friends if you can avoid it, but this might differ on how desperate you are, and now you can't even determine who is and who isn't one for instance, so you're probably going to be more hesitant towards any steam user because of this feature. At least I will.

Bad take from Valve/Steam and I hope this gets canceled in from being pushed onto all users. However if it does indeed pass(and it probably will), I'm assuming what's coming next is dedicated backgrounds, aka you selecting specific backgrounds for specific users. So to your work friends you have a normal background, and to your degen discrod friends you can have the anime booba ones. All to make sure your feelings don't get hurt. Then we just need valve instead of selling a steam deck to sell the steam branded dildo's and we will have a proper porn platform. Thank you valve.:♥♥♥♥:

disagree
the option to hide individual games of your own library from others only brings benefits to the owner of the profile.
anyone who's that obsessed with someone else's profile/library is the problem, and this update solves that.