Proposal For New Steam Policy

[popogeist]

Let me preface by saying that this would most likely never happen in 1000 years, but I had an interesting idea where mostly everyone would win.

Steam should revise their developer policy to require new games to be released for Windows and Linux to be posted to Steam for sale. I get that there would be limitations, and that there could be exceptions.

Since Valve is really pushing the Steam Deck, and we'd like to see an uptick in Linux adoption to break the catch-22 (No games, so no users -- No users, no games). Valve and users would benefit from this. Not that Proton isn't great, but it would be nice to see the catalog much more native if possible. This would also give more incentive for Linux adoption by gamers since quite a few cite lack of gaming support in their decision to permanently leave Windows. If the numbers end up being good enough (fantasy world, I know), maybe other app developers would take notice and start developing for this emerging market, and break the barriers to get into businesses.

Also with this requirement, it may encourage developers to implement anti-cheat technologies and encourage development in Vulkan instead of DirectX.

In fantasy world, but maybe it would encourage nVidia to do a little better in the driver department as well.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mr_popo_09:

Proposal For New Steam Policy

Let me preface by saying that this would most likely never happen in 1000 years, but I had an interesting idea where mostly everyone would win.

Steam should revise their developer policy to require new games to be released for Windows and Linux to be posted to Steam for sale. I get that there would be limitations, and that there could be exceptions.

Since Valve is really pushing the Steam Deck, and we'd like to see an uptick in Linux adoption to break the catch-22 (No games, so no users -- No users, no games). Valve and users would benefit from this. Not that Proton isn't great, but it would be nice to see the catalog much more native if possible. This would also give more incentive for Linux adoption by gamers since quite a few cite lack of gaming support in their decision to permanently leave Windows. If the numbers end up being good enough (fantasy world, I know), maybe other app developers would take notice and start developing for this emerging market, and break the barriers to get into businesses.

Also with this requirement, it may encourage developers to implement anti-cheat technologies and encourage development in Vulkan instead of DirectX.

In fantasy world, but maybe it would encourage nVidia to do a little better in the driver department as well.

Valve is not going to force game devs to support an OS they don't want to support.

This would tell Activision to leave Steam AGAIN and no longer sell Call of Duty here again.

[Mad Scientist]

Trying to force Developers to develop for specific operating systems is the sort of thing Valve wouldn't do. Developers can if they choose to do so, make their game for any OS they wish. Proton also means you can basically run a windows game anyway, as long as the hardware can handle it, so it doesn't really matter then.

If more people use proton, Developers are more likely to consider making it for linux. Though that is their product, and therefore, their personal choice. Trying to force people to do things other than follow laws & rules tends to go poorly.

Also, most people use Windows due to ease and because it has plenty of gaming support. People usually don't use other OS's due to the lack of gaming support, being proprietary & locked down, or typically not compatible.

[Start_Running]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mr_popo_09:

Let me preface by saying that this would most likely never happen in 1000 years, but I had an interesting idea where mostly everyone would win.

Steam should revise their developer policy to require new games to be released for Windows and Linux to be posted to Steam for sale. I get that there would be limitations, and that there could be exceptions.

Since Valve is really pushing the Steam Deck, and we'd like to see an uptick in Linux adoption to break the catch-22 (No games, so no users -- No users, no games). Valve and users would benefit from this. Not that Proton isn't great, but it would be nice to see the catalog much more native if possible. This would also give more incentive for Linux adoption by gamers since quite a few cite lack of gaming support in their decision to permanently leave Windows. If the numbers end up being good enough (fantasy world, I know), maybe other app developers would take notice and start developing for this emerging market, and break the barriers to get into businesses.

Also with this requirement, it may encourage developers to implement anti-cheat technologies and encourage development in Vulkan instead of DirectX.

In fantasy world, but maybe it would encourage nVidia to do a little better in the driver department as well.

Yeah no. You see if you require/force developers into doing a thing just means they won't do business with you.. Linux development won't see an uptick until desktiop home use of linux experiences an uptick.

As uis Valve found the best middle ground with Proton.

[Boblin the Goblin]

SteamOS was created in response to Windows trying to force developers to use the old Windows Store on Windows 8.

Gabe has openly said he is against restricting developers to a certain OS or anything of the like.

Forcing developers to make a Linux port directly goes against that idea. Valve will only greatly encourage developers to do so.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Not surprised to see the usual gang attack the topic. But dont worry OP, i support it. Linux stands for the people and freedom. Although I still doubt steam is going to care because the elites are currently pushing to ban and make linux and anything open source illegal and banned. They want to force everyone to use mac and windows so they can spy and control everything digitally.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

Not surprised to see the usual gang attack the topic. But dont worry OP, i support it. Linux stands for the people and freedom. Although I still doubt steam is going to care because the elites are currently pushing to ban and make linux and anything open source illegal and banned. They want to force everyone to use mac and windows so they can spy and control everything digitally.

Even Valve dropped MAC support for CS2.

[Knee]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

Not surprised to see the usual gang attack the topic. But dont worry OP, i support it. Linux stands for the people and freedom. Although I still doubt steam is going to care because the elites are currently pushing to ban and make linux and anything open source illegal and banned. They want to force everyone to use mac and windows so they can spy and control everything digitally.

"stands for the people and freedom"
*proceeds to support a suggestion that forces other people to support an OS they might not want to*
Nothing like forcing freedom on other people

[popogeist]

Just a thought I had since back in the GreenLight days, they required at least a Windows build and that seemed forced back them. Just thinking of possible ways to break the catch-22. Not trying to force anything, just thinking of ways to level the playing field.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

Not surprised to see the usual gang attack the topic. But dont worry OP, i support it. Linux stands for the people and freedom. Although I still doubt steam is going to care because the elites are currently pushing to ban and make linux and anything open source illegal and banned. They want to force everyone to use mac and windows so they can spy and control everything digitally.

"stands for the people and freedom"
*proceeds to support a suggestion that forces other people to support an OS they might not want to*
Nothing like forcing freedom on other people :thumbalift:

freedom must be fougt for and protected otherwise you lose it

[Knee]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mr_popo_09:

Just a thought I had since back in the GreenLight days, they required at least a Windows build and that seemed forced back them. Just thinking of possible ways to break the catch-22. Not trying to force anything, just thinking of ways to level the playing field.

Sorry, the comment was not directed at you, I can see the benefit derived from standardizing two different OS's for developers to create their games (maybe in time, publishers might see the benefit as well).

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

"stands for the people and freedom"
*proceeds to support a suggestion that forces other people to support an OS they might not want to*
Nothing like forcing freedom on other people

freedom must be fougt for and protected otherwise you lose it

Forcing things onto people isn't freedom.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

"stands for the people and freedom"
*proceeds to support a suggestion that forces other people to support an OS they might not want to*
Nothing like forcing freedom on other people :thumbalift:

freedom must be fougt for and protected otherwise you lose it

So how is forcing developers to make a game for an OS they probably aren't familiar with fighting for freedom?

Wouldn't freedom be allowing them to choose the OS they want to make a game for?

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh mr_popo_09:

Just a thought I had since back in the GreenLight days, they required at least a Windows build and that seemed forced back them. Just thinking of possible ways to break the catch-22. Not trying to force anything, just thinking of ways to level the playing field.

Sorry, the comment was not directed at you, I can see the benefit derived from standardizing two different OS's for developers to create their games (maybe in time, publishers might see the benefit as well).

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

freedom must be fougt for and protected otherwise you lose it

Forcing things onto people isn't freedom.

if you dont fight for freedom then you are against it

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

i feel sorry for OP, and every other OP in this forum, they all get attacked by the same gang. I at least tried to support the OP. OP just know there is a lot of support for you but they are all banned.. there arent many normal users here.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RFK FTW:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Knee:

Sorry, the comment was not directed at you, I can see the benefit derived from standardizing two different OS's for developers to create their games (maybe in time, publishers might see the benefit as well).


Forcing things onto people isn't freedom.

if you dont fight for freedom then you are against it

Youre hilarious, "freedom means forcing people do what I want".

[HikariLight]

I find it funny how people think that Steam is anti customer and totally forget that the game devs are CUSTOMERS too on Steam.