Forum PvPers should pay money to use steam forums
There are some instigators who play steam forums as a pvp game. They have their little clan that go attack people together on the forums. Why can they play this "game" for free? It should be free for everyone else but not for the instigators.
Typical tendencies for instigators is 1000 posts per day in every topic and they always support steam and defend devs and report everyone and they never get banned themselves because they have mods support.
So I think they should have to pay money if they play this forums like a PvP game.
But normal users who are here to have good faith discussions and end up getting banned, we should not have to pay. Normal users pay money for real games already and they don't think of steam forums as a game. But those instigators are getting to play this steam forums pvp game for free at the expense of all other users suffering, so we should at least make those instigators have to pay money for playing forums as a pvp game instead of coming here for good faith discussions like everyone else.
Původně napsal Pierce Dalton:
RFK FTW původně napsal:
cinedine původně napsal:

How long can you call it a "conspiracy theory" if more and more people come out and state their observation:
- questionable posts go long time unmoderated, if action is ever taken
- some users get very often into arguments and heated discussions
- the other side usually gets banned sooner or later despite staying just as "civil" as them
- and in the midst of it you will see the same very few users every time

I might not have moderator experience, but if somebody in bar or club gets punched in the face every week and security has to throw out the one who punched them, chances are that *they* are the problem and the "agressors" would have behaved perfectly fine without them.
And if you keep these people in, your business will suffer.

Valve needs to pull together and start giving a ♥♥♥♥.
About everything. The countless issues with the Steam client and store, the number of low effort games that make people avoid indie games, following regulations isntad of fighting them or trying to weasel out, the behaviour of some developers on this platform, and yes, the community in these discussion boards. Not only the general ones, but also in the popular games' hubs. It's their house, their name is on the letterbox.
i like your example of a bar. I imagine it like this... the bar is called "the instigators club". They just sit around there bored all day until a soon to be victim finally walks into the bar. The victim orders a beer, pays for it and then the instigator comes up and drinks and says get me another one.
The victim says what the hell. then the instigator says watch your mouth, we dont tolerate that kind of talk. you like getting punched in the face?
then the victim gets his guard up and says bring it!! then the bouncers come and kick and punch the victim to the ground and then when the victim cant move anymore they throw him out and say "you're banned for starting a fight". The victim manages to barely say "they stole my drink and threatened to punch me", then the bouncer says "he only asked if you like getting punched, that is not a threat, hope you learned your lesson" says the bouncer with a big grin and walks in laughing. Then the instigator comes out and says "see, i didnt break any rule, you heard it yourself from the bouncer". Thats steam forums. Bouncers are the mods.

:WH3_greasus_rofl::lol: This is not only accurate, but also comedy gold.
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Killer Unicorn původně napsal:
a serious question for the OP , how many games do you have on your steam account? asking because you seem like a typical steam user who pays for some games, but has a good head on his shoulders and is able to see what is going on in steam.

i am asking because i am curious do you own 100's of steam games? or do you only own a few that you really play, if you noticed typically all the accounts posting against you on this thread have 100s' or 1000's of games on a single account.

this narrative alone should be understood as steam shell accounts, they are not real users but users who are using accounts gifted by steam, many did not pay for any of the games they have played, they are not purchasing steam customers, but typically along the line of play for free employee's.

take a moment to think about this get to know who you are dealing with, that fact alone will totally debunk the claims any of these so called "users" make.
How many games do you have?

Steam nor Valve doesn't gift accounts, either, by the way.
RFK FTW původně napsal:
There are some instigators who play steam forums as a pvp game. They have their little clan that go attack people together on the forums. Why can they play this "game" for free? It should be free for everyone else but not for the instigators.
Typical tendencies for instigators is 1000 posts per day in every topic and they always support steam and defend devs and report everyone and they never get banned themselves because they have mods support.
So I think they should have to pay money if they play this forums like a PvP game.
But normal users who are here to have good faith discussions and end up getting banned, we should not have to pay. Normal users pay money for real games already and they don't think of steam forums as a game. But those instigators are getting to play this steam forums pvp game for free at the expense of all other users suffering, so we should at least make those instigators have to pay money for playing forums as a pvp game instead of coming here for good faith discussions like everyone else.

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.
Naposledy upravil Pierce Dalton; 1. lis. 2023 v 17.45
Start_Running původně napsal:
Hmm good idea. SO how much do you think Valve should charge you?

They can charge whatever they want, I'll not pay to use a freaking forum :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:
RFK FTW původně napsal:
There are some instigators who play steam forums as a pvp game. They have their little clan that go attack people together on the forums. Why can they play this "game" for free? It should be free for everyone else but not for the instigators.
Typical tendencies for instigators is 1000 posts per day in every topic and they always support steam and defend devs and report everyone and they never get banned themselves because they have mods support.
So I think they should have to pay money if they play this forums like a PvP game.
But normal users who are here to have good faith discussions and end up getting banned, we should not have to pay. Normal users pay money for real games already and they don't think of steam forums as a game. But those instigators are getting to play this steam forums pvp game for free at the expense of all other users suffering, so we should at least make those instigators have to pay money for playing forums as a pvp game instead of coming here for good faith discussions like everyone else.

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.


That is an absolute lie.
SlowMango původně napsal:
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.


That is an absolute lie.

Because?
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:
RFK FTW původně napsal:
There are some instigators who play steam forums as a pvp game. They have their little clan that go attack people together on the forums. Why can they play this "game" for free? It should be free for everyone else but not for the instigators.
Typical tendencies for instigators is 1000 posts per day in every topic and they always support steam and defend devs and report everyone and they never get banned themselves because they have mods support.
So I think they should have to pay money if they play this forums like a PvP game.
But normal users who are here to have good faith discussions and end up getting banned, we should not have to pay. Normal users pay money for real games already and they don't think of steam forums as a game. But those instigators are getting to play this steam forums pvp game for free at the expense of all other users suffering, so we should at least make those instigators have to pay money for playing forums as a pvp game instead of coming here for good faith discussions like everyone else.

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.
And yet you seem more drawn to post than anyone else.
But perhaps then you can answer the question your friend can't.



Pierce Dalton původně napsal:
Start_Running původně napsal:
Hmm good idea. SO how much do you think Valve should charge you?

They can charge whatever they want, I'll not pay to use a freaking forum :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:
Well this would certainly be one positive.
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:
RFK FTW původně napsal:
There are some instigators who play steam forums as a pvp game. They have their little clan that go attack people together on the forums. Why can they play this "game" for free? It should be free for everyone else but not for the instigators.
Typical tendencies for instigators is 1000 posts per day in every topic and they always support steam and defend devs and report everyone and they never get banned themselves because they have mods support.
So I think they should have to pay money if they play this forums like a PvP game.
But normal users who are here to have good faith discussions and end up getting banned, we should not have to pay. Normal users pay money for real games already and they don't think of steam forums as a game. But those instigators are getting to play this steam forums pvp game for free at the expense of all other users suffering, so we should at least make those instigators have to pay money for playing forums as a pvp game instead of coming here for good faith discussions like everyone else.

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.
yeah and we arent even playing this as a pvp game. we are just here to discuss in good faith like most people are. There's just that one small specific group that is attacking every topic and breaking rules but never getting banned for it and they do it for fun, they are not here in good faith, they only argue to troll and try to get others banned, so its only those few people (and we all know who they are) who would have to pay.
a subscription based steam section and subscriber forum with a few free games every month to be claimed and to keep could be successful for steam


19.95 a month for a low subcription, forum posting, and a few limited monthly steam games. like 4 - 5 dollar games

higher tier 39.95 would give 1 or 2 choice priced games a month

example is 2 - 19.95 games or 1 - 39.95 dollar game
plus use the forum and get the same free monthly limited steam games for free as the 19.95 tier

bonus is if you get the 39.95 a month you get better game choices to keep plus the same thing as the 19.95 on top of it.

this is my thoughts on how you could potentially create a paid for forum, hope this helps.

try to stay on topic which is how to create a friendly pay zone for forum use. i like this cause it gets people spending every month, it gets them games, some free if they get the higher tier and the steam over casual forum people might agree on it.

win win for everyone really. so long as they want to hand steam some money every month.
Naposledy upravil Golden Unicorn; 1. lis. 2023 v 18.31
They would just make alts? You know, like many already do to circumvent bans.
Killer Unicorn původně napsal:
a subscription based steam section and subscriber forum with a few free games every month to be claimed and to keep could be successful for steam


19.95 a month for a low subcription, forum posting, and a few limited monthly steam games. like 4 - 5 dollar games

higher tier 39.95 would give 1 or 2 choice priced games a month

example is 2 - 19.95 games or 1 - 39.95 dollar game
plus use the forum and get the same free monthly limited steam games for free as the 19.95 tier

bonus is if you get the 39.95 a month you get better game choices to keep plus the same thing as the 19.95 on top of it.

this is my thoughts on how you could potentially create a paid for forum, hope this helps.

try to stay on topic which is how to create a friendly pay zone for forum use. i like this cause it gets people spending every month, it gets them games, some free if they get the higher tier and the steam over casual forum people might agree on it.

win win for everyone really. so long as they want to hand steam some money every month.


Yeah, Steam has shown they aren't interested in any sub service.
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:
SlowMango původně napsal:


That is an absolute lie.

Because?
Because your constant presence here, seems to disagree with your own statements.
Killer Unicorn původně napsal:
a subscription based steam section and subscriber forum with a few free games every month to be claimed and to keep could be successful for steam


19.95 a month for a low subcription, forum posting, and a few limited monthly steam games. like 4 - 5 dollar games

higher tier 39.95 would give 1 or 2 choice priced games a month

example is 2 - 19.95 games or 1 - 39.95 dollar game
plus use the forum and get the same free monthly limited steam games for free as the 19.95 tier

bonus is if you get the 39.95 a month you get better game choices to keep plus the same thing as the 19.95 on top of it.

this is my thoughts on how you could potentially create a paid for forum, hope this helps.

try to stay on topic which is how to create a friendly pay zone for forum use. i like this cause it gets people spending every month, it gets them games, some free if they get the higher tier and the steam over casual forum people might agree on it.

win win for everyone really. so long as they want to hand steam some money every month.
Strip the games out of it. This is just the forums. So I'd say simple. $5 to post on the forums. This will ggive you say 3 strikes. After you've been banned 3 times your forum privs are revoked and you have plunk another $5 in. Wash rinse repeat.

Alternatively. the $5 nets you a certain number of strikes. again lets say 3, for the year. After you burn through them, you can either wiat until the next year, or plunk in another $5.

The beauty of this is that it will not affect 80% of the forum users.
Start_Running původně napsal:
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:

That's an excellent idea, Valve could make some money from it because certain people really can't live without this lol. Make it a monthly subscription.

As for me, I wouldn't miss it at all.
And yet you seem more drawn to post than anyone else.
But perhaps then you can answer the question your friend can't.



Pierce Dalton původně napsal:

They can charge whatever they want, I'll not pay to use a freaking forum :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:
Well this would certainly be one positive.

1. Do I? Well, basic math proves otherwise: you have 43.532 posts in your post history. Now go check how many I have.

2. What friend? What question? If you're referring to how much they should charge, I've already answered that in post 123. It makes zero difference to me because I wouldn't pay anyway.

3. Why would that be a positive? Can you elaborate?

Also, be careful what you wish for, don't forget that bullies can't have fun without targets :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:
C²C^Guyver |NZB| původně napsal:
Pierce Dalton původně napsal:

Because?
Because your constant presence here, seems to disagree with your own statements.

Assuming it is constant, what do you think is the reason for it?
Start_Running původně napsal:
Killer Unicorn původně napsal:
a subscription based steam section and subscriber forum with a few free games every month to be claimed and to keep could be successful for steam


19.95 a month for a low subcription, forum posting, and a few limited monthly steam games. like 4 - 5 dollar games

higher tier 39.95 would give 1 or 2 choice priced games a month

example is 2 - 19.95 games or 1 - 39.95 dollar game
plus use the forum and get the same free monthly limited steam games for free as the 19.95 tier

bonus is if you get the 39.95 a month you get better game choices to keep plus the same thing as the 19.95 on top of it.

this is my thoughts on how you could potentially create a paid for forum, hope this helps.

try to stay on topic which is how to create a friendly pay zone for forum use. i like this cause it gets people spending every month, it gets them games, some free if they get the higher tier and the steam over casual forum people might agree on it.

win win for everyone really. so long as they want to hand steam some money every month.
Strip the games out of it. This is just the forums. So I'd say simple. $5 to post on the forums. This will ggive you say 3 strikes. After you've been banned 3 times your forum privs are revoked and you have plunk another $5 in. Wash rinse repeat.

Alternatively. the $5 nets you a certain number of strikes. again lets say 3, for the year. After you burn through them, you can either wiat until the next year, or plunk in another $5.

The beauty of this is that it will not affect 80% of the forum users.
its unethical to make people pay to be able to speak. And as seen by overhelming support in very many topics about vague rules and moderator corruption and protected instigators, there are so many topics about this that alone is enough proof. So a place like this would just make it even more fun for the protected instigators to get "kills" in their forum pvp, getting people banned and making them lose money. I understand why you want this so much but most people don't.
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