Creeper of Doom Oct 30, 2023 @ 2:49pm
Allow to Make Post History Private
It is in the title mates. all to see for myself, nobody else. all that should be done is hide "View Posts" to the public, all posts done shall remain if it is there in the community forum
Last edited by Creeper of Doom; Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:17am
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Brian9824 Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
its not necessary to give source to common knowledge stuff like laws that remove free speech. Everyone knows that i bet even you do so i dont need to waste time go looking for the links. So the game forums have to have the same rules but then they can add more on top of it if they want to.


Except I'm literally part of a hub that doesn't follow the same rules.

It allows people to ♥♥♥♥-talk each other(within reason) and even discuss cheats or exploits of the game.

Yep and the hubs for most adult games allow nudity and sexual content that would violate the rules on normal steam forums. I mean its really common knowledge for anyone that uses steam and is active with the community.
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
its not necessary to give source to common knowledge stuff like laws that remove free speech. Everyone knows that i bet even you do so i dont need to waste time go looking for the links. So the game forums have to have the same rules but then they can add more on top of it if they want to.


Except I'm literally part of a hub that doesn't follow the same rules.

It allows people to ♥♥♥♥-talk each other(within reason) and even discuss cheats or exploits of the game.
keep in mind that steam rules are very vague, so a strict moderator can ban everyone they want, and a very opinionated chill moderator never needs to ban anyone, thats what happens with vague rules, it gives moderators power to ban anyone they want and not ban those they dont want to.
Originally posted by brian9824:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
its not necessary to give source to common knowledge stuff like laws that remove free speech.
It is when you don't even know that free speech does not apply to businesses.
Again here is a source - https://www.carnegielibrary.org/the-first-amendment-and-censorship/

This amendment gives Americans the right to express themselves verbally and through publication without government interference.

Can you tell us what government steam is? I'm not familiar with their country.......

I suggest you read this
The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. It does NOT include private citizens, BUSINESSES, and organizations. This means that:

A private school can suspend students for criticizing a school policy;
A private business can fire an employee for expressing political views on the job; and
A private media company can refuse to publish or broadcast opinions it disagrees with.

I even have a fun comic because everyone keeps making the same mistake -
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2923469968

So since you refuse to provide any sources to your claim of steam locking redundant threads we can conclude you have none. Providing even a single example of steam locking redundant threads on their forum wouldn't be a violation of free speech, nor does the constitution say anything about locking threads on forums for repetitive posts...

Feel free to post your proof though since you keep asking everyone else to but keep refusing to post your own
ok i dare you to go out and find a cop and yell a racial slur. They will arrest you then because there is actually no freedom of speech and those laws steam must follow as well
Unicorn Slayer Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
Originally posted by SlowMango:


Except I'm literally part of a hub that doesn't follow the same rules.

It allows people to ♥♥♥♥-talk each other(within reason) and even discuss cheats or exploits of the game.
keep in mind that steam rules are very vague, so a strict moderator can ban everyone they want, and a very opinionated chill moderator never needs to ban anyone, thats what happens with vague rules, it gives moderators power to ban anyone they want and not ban those they dont want to.

I don't find them to be vague. They seem pretty easy to understand IMO
Boblin the Goblin Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
Originally posted by SlowMango:


Except I'm literally part of a hub that doesn't follow the same rules.

It allows people to ♥♥♥♥-talk each other(within reason) and even discuss cheats or exploits of the game.
keep in mind that steam rules are very vague, so a strict moderator can ban everyone they want, and a very opinionated chill moderator never needs to ban anyone, thats what happens with vague rules, it gives moderators power to ban anyone they want and not ban those they dont want to.


Discussing cheats and exploits as well as insulting users is plainly against the general forum rules.

So, by your logic, Steam should be getting that forum in trouble since they are following their own rules.
Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
keep in mind that steam rules are very vague, so a strict moderator can ban everyone they want, and a very opinionated chill moderator never needs to ban anyone, thats what happens with vague rules, it gives moderators power to ban anyone they want and not ban those they dont want to.


Discussing cheats and exploits as well as insulting users is plainly against the general forum rules.

So, by your logic, Steam should be getting that forum in trouble since they are following their own rules.
but what is an insult? its vague and all about opinion like I said.
Brian9824 Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
ok i dare you to go out and find a cop and yell a racial slur. They will arrest you then because there is actually no freedom of speech and those laws steam must follow as well

Again evidence says you are wrong - https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/civil-rights/can-i-be-arrested-for-swearing-at-a-police-officer/#:~:text=In%20Florida%2C%20courts%20have%20found,support%20a%20disorderly%20conduct%20conviction.

In Florida, courts have found that “mere” yelling or swearing that is loud, belligerent or annoying is not enough to support a disorderly conduct conviction.

Also
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-arrested-yelling-swearing-cop.html

As you already know, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects free speech. Because of the Amendment, police officers generally cannot arrest people, nor can the government prosecute them, simply for what they've said.

There are, of course, exceptions to the prohibition against punishing speech. Statutes that outlaw speech that's likely to incite violence constitute an example. But officers can't use laws of this ilk simply to punish people who mouth off to them, even those who use profanity.


https://www.andrewslawofficellc.com/blog/2022/08/can-you-be-arrested-for-mouthing-off-to-a-police-officer/

To be clear, there isn’t a law that specifically forbids yelling, swearing or otherwise being rude to a law enforcement officer – as long as you’re not threatening to harm them or someone else. This is protected speech under the First Amendment.

Police are representatives of the government as they are city/state employees, Steam is not. Again you really need to read up on the actual laws as your knowledge of them is not very accurate.

You might be getting confused with disorderly conduct, or disturbing the peace which can be a result of your actions. As the comic states freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your speech. So if you do stuff that causes a big disturbance you can be arrested for it even if you have the right to say it because you weren't arrested for WHAT you said, but HOW you said it.
Last edited by Brian9824; Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:38am
Boblin the Goblin Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
Originally posted by brian9824:
It is when you don't even know that free speech does not apply to businesses.
Again here is a source - https://www.carnegielibrary.org/the-first-amendment-and-censorship/



Can you tell us what government steam is? I'm not familiar with their country.......

I suggest you read this


I even have a fun comic because everyone keeps making the same mistake -
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2923469968

So since you refuse to provide any sources to your claim of steam locking redundant threads we can conclude you have none. Providing even a single example of steam locking redundant threads on their forum wouldn't be a violation of free speech, nor does the constitution say anything about locking threads on forums for repetitive posts...

Feel free to post your proof though since you keep asking everyone else to but keep refusing to post your own
ok i dare you to go out and find a cop and yell a racial slur. They will arrest you then because there is actually no freedom of speech and those laws steam must follow as well


That wouldn't really be a freedom of speech issue. That would become a harassment issue, which is against the law.

A freedom of speech issue would be the man who was arrested for having "I Eat Ass" as a window decal on the back of his truck. He was released and the charges dropped because it was free speech for him to have that.

In fact, you can literally have a giant sticker or sign saying "All Cops Are Bastards" and they can't do anything about it.
Originally posted by brian9824:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
ok i dare you to go out and find a cop and yell a racial slur. They will arrest you then because there is actually no freedom of speech and those laws steam must follow as well

Again evidence says you are wrong - https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/civil-rights/can-i-be-arrested-for-swearing-at-a-police-officer/#:~:text=In%20Florida%2C%20courts%20have%20found,support%20a%20disorderly%20conduct%20conviction.

In Florida, courts have found that “mere” yelling or swearing that is loud, belligerent or annoying is not enough to support a disorderly conduct conviction.

Also
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-arrested-yelling-swearing-cop.html

As you already know, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects free speech. Because of the Amendment, police officers generally cannot arrest people, nor can the government prosecute them, simply for what they've said.

There are, of course, exceptions to the prohibition against punishing speech. Statutes that outlaw speech that's likely to incite violence constitute an example. But officers can't use laws of this ilk simply to punish people who mouth off to them, even those who use profanity.


https://www.andrewslawofficellc.com/blog/2022/08/can-you-be-arrested-for-mouthing-off-to-a-police-officer/

To be clear, there isn’t a law that specifically forbids yelling, swearing or otherwise being rude to a law enforcement officer – as long as you’re not threatening to harm them or someone else. This is protected speech under the First Amendment.

Police are representatives of the government, Steam is not. Again you really need to read up on the actual laws as your knowledge of them is not very accurate.

You might be getting confused with disorderly conduct, or disturbing the peace which can be a result of your actions. As the comic states freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your speech. So if you do stuff that causes a big disturbance you can be arrested for it even if you have the right to say it because you weren't arrested for WHAT you said, but HOW you said it.
i said racial slur not just yelling. hate speech is against the law as well as many other restrictions on what we're not allowed to say.
Boblin the Goblin Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
Originally posted by brian9824:

Again evidence says you are wrong - https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/civil-rights/can-i-be-arrested-for-swearing-at-a-police-officer/#:~:text=In%20Florida%2C%20courts%20have%20found,support%20a%20disorderly%20conduct%20conviction.



Also
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-arrested-yelling-swearing-cop.html




https://www.andrewslawofficellc.com/blog/2022/08/can-you-be-arrested-for-mouthing-off-to-a-police-officer/



Police are representatives of the government, Steam is not. Again you really need to read up on the actual laws as your knowledge of them is not very accurate.

You might be getting confused with disorderly conduct, or disturbing the peace which can be a result of your actions. As the comic states freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your speech. So if you do stuff that causes a big disturbance you can be arrested for it even if you have the right to say it because you weren't arrested for WHAT you said, but HOW you said it.
i said racial slur not just yelling. hate speech is against the law as well as many other restrictions on what we're not allowed to say.


Hate speech is not against the law.
Brian9824 Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
i said racial slur not just yelling. hate speech is against the law as well as many other restrictions on what we're not allowed to say.

No it isn't. Freedom of speech protects against ALL forms of speech, even distasteful speech you don't like. Its why Nazi's, white supremacists, etc are allowed to have rallies and protests. Their speech is just as protected as everyone else as long as they follow the rules while expressing it

Again you REALLY do not understand the law

https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20hate,protected%20by%20the%20First%20Amendment.

In the United States, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment.

https://uwm.edu/free-speech-rights-responsibilities/faqs/what-is-hate-speech-and-is-it-protected-by-the-first-amendment/

Hate speech may be offensive and hurtful; however, it is generally protected by the First Amendment.

https://www.thefire.org/news/hate-speech-protected-first-amendment

A recent survey from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education found that a majority of Americans (57%) correctly recognize that the First Amendment protects hate speech from governmental regulation, punishment, or censorship — but 45% think that it should not be protected.
Last edited by Brian9824; Oct 31, 2023 @ 7:58am
Originally posted by brian9824:
Originally posted by RFK FTW:
i said racial slur not just yelling. hate speech is against the law as well as many other restrictions on what we're not allowed to say.

No it isn't. Freedom of speech protects against ALL forms of speech, even distasteful speech you don't like. Its why Nazi's, white supremacists, etc are allowed to have rallies and protests. Their speech is just as protected as everyone else as long as they follow the rules while expressing it

Again you REALLY do not understand the law

https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20hate,protected%20by%20the%20First%20Amendment.

In the United States, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment.

https://uwm.edu/free-speech-rights-responsibilities/faqs/what-is-hate-speech-and-is-it-protected-by-the-first-amendment/

Hate speech may be offensive and hurtful; however, it is generally protected by the First Amendment.

https://www.thefire.org/news/hate-speech-protected-first-amendment

A recent survey from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education found that a majority of Americans (57%) correctly recognize that the First Amendment protects hate speech from governmental regulation, punishment, or censorship — but 45% think that it should not be protected.

So your not alone in your confusion, 45% of Americans are also mistaken about the law. However the majority of us do know the laws.
you realize that there are more countries in this world than usa? and seems that its a bit of gray area in usa. The world's unelected government (WEF) is against freedom of speech and that's why there is no place on the internet you can freely talk. It doesnt matter really if in usa you can have freedom of speech when you are talking to yourself in your mirror in your basement. Elon musk tried to make twitter free speech but now he has to give up on that or shut down twitter in all of EU. So short story is steam doesn't ahve freedom of speech, even if gaben wanted there to be its not possible.
Mad Scientist Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:14am 
I'm not surprised this got derailed by someone. Really good example on why public post history should remain public.
Knee Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:32am 
I’ll just make a web scraper if it ever does become private and then OP will be back to square one.
Originally posted by Knee:
I’ll just make a web scraper if it ever does become private and then OP will be back to square one.
you can just ask AI to do it for you
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