Getting Triggered over Talk of Trolling an Trolls on Steam Forum
Steam needs to really update its policies on this, some users continue to go around calling everyone a troll and its super annoying and turns the forum into a battle ground of argument. it needs to stop, calling a user a troll or even suggestion they are trolling is just an other form of Name & shame, it just needs to stop.

Its bullying and we don't accept bullying in society any more, we should no longer accept it on steam forums.

People need to be able to have discussion without being accused of anything.


Updated with reflection

there is no truth revealed when you lie about people, its very disgusting to see steam users attack each other, what is even more disgusting is it is high level steam users.

i think its obvious how high level steam users won't leave low level users alone to their opinions, its turned into a attack at every turn, they try to discredit users who disagree with them.

What is a real shock is how steam seems afraid to stop these bad actors and allow them to continue to attack an ridicule other steam users.

as steam users we aren't asking for miracles, just that the double sided and negative comments directed at everyone who isn't them, Stops.

steam could easily clean up this mess by taking action against the attacks, being a real company for once that protects all of its users.
Отредактировано Everyone is Invited; 26 окт. 2023 г. в 14:50
Автор сообщения: metamec:
Some of you seem profoundly unhappy with the forums and should probably find some other form of entertainment.
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Автор сообщения: brian9824
While there at it they should also ban people who troll by posting fake conspiracies, calling people bots, shills, fake accounts, etc. Get rid of all the trolling and make the forums and discussions based on actual facts.
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories, they're just theories about conspiracies, do you think theories are bad? everything good starts with a theory?
Discussions only based on facts? then these forums would be dead. You wouldn't even be able to make a post about something cool that happened in the game because yo don't have proof to show it happened.
the interesting thing about people calling each other troll is that it's not against the rules to say that if the other user actually is a troll. And the rules are so vague that everyone is a troll, everyone in the entire forum should be banned if the rules were strictly followed. So the moderators have to be biased and use their personal opinion, so if the accuser is someone that the moderator likes, then they will ban the accused user even if all they did was say that the game should add the horror tag on the store page beacuse the lighting is so poor they cant see anything.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: brian9824
While there at it they should also ban people who troll by posting fake conspiracies, calling people bots, shills, fake accounts, etc. Get rid of all the trolling and make the forums and discussions based on actual facts.
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories, they're just theories about conspiracies, do you think theories are bad? everything good starts with a theory?
So does everything bad and harmful.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
the interesting thing about people calling each other troll is that it's not against the rules to say that if the other user actually is a troll. And the rules are so vague that everyone is a troll, everyone in the entire forum should be banned if the rules were strictly followed. So the moderators have to be biased and use their personal opinion, so if the accuser is someone that the moderator likes, then they will ban the accused user even if all they did was say that the game should add the horror tag on the store page beacuse the lighting is so poor they cant see anything.

Have you actually READ the rules? There is a very specific rule that it breaks. So I suggest you go take 10-15 minutes to read them first and if you still can't find the rule that explains why that is not allowed i'm sure someone will explain it to you.

As a test I had my 10 year old daughter read the rules and she found it, so the rules are written clear enough that the youngest steam users can understand them. Now its always possible there are language barriers, but myself and others are always happy to explain to those who can't understand them.

Also the moderators are some random 3rd party company in the Philippines or somewhere, if you think they are forming bonds and liking users then its clear you have no idea how moderation works.....
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: brian9824
While there at it they should also ban people who troll by posting fake conspiracies, calling people bots, shills, fake accounts, etc. Get rid of all the trolling and make the forums and discussions based on actual facts.
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories, they're just theories about conspiracies, do you think theories are bad? everything good starts with a theory?
Discussions only based on facts? then these forums would be dead. You wouldn't even be able to make a post about something cool that happened in the game because yo don't have proof to show it happened.

So per your logic the theory that there is a master race that is superior to other races is perfectly acceptable.... Well if you feel that way i'll strongly disagree with you, as will many other people.
Автор сообщения: BJWyler
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories, they're just theories about conspiracies, do you think theories are bad? everything good starts with a theory?
So does everything bad and harmful.
give an example
Автор сообщения: brian9824
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
the interesting thing about people calling each other troll is that it's not against the rules to say that if the other user actually is a troll. And the rules are so vague that everyone is a troll, everyone in the entire forum should be banned if the rules were strictly followed. So the moderators have to be biased and use their personal opinion, so if the accuser is someone that the moderator likes, then they will ban the accused user even if all they did was say that the game should add the horror tag on the store page beacuse the lighting is so poor they cant see anything.

Have you actually READ the rules? There is a very specific rule that it breaks. So I suggest you go take 10-15 minutes to read them first and if you still can't find the rule that explains why that is not allowed i'm sure someone will explain it to you.

As a test I had my 10 year old daughter read the rules and she found it, so the rules are written clear enough that the youngest steam users can understand them. Now its always possible there are language barriers, but myself and others are always happy to explain to those who can't understand them.

Also the moderators are some random 3rd party company in the Philippines or somewhere, if you think they are forming bonds and liking users then its clear you have no idea how moderation works.....
it doesnt matter what the rules say, what matter is what rules gets enforced. You think majority is always right no matter what and the majority knows I'm right so i think you do too. Actions speak louder than words. People can say they will do something but it only matters what they actually do, not say they will do.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: BJWyler
So does everything bad and harmful.
give an example
The last 7 years of American politics has a plethora - take your pick.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: brian9824

Have you actually READ the rules? There is a very specific rule that it breaks. So I suggest you go take 10-15 minutes to read them first and if you still can't find the rule that explains why that is not allowed i'm sure someone will explain it to you.

As a test I had my 10 year old daughter read the rules and she found it, so the rules are written clear enough that the youngest steam users can understand them. Now its always possible there are language barriers, but myself and others are always happy to explain to those who can't understand them.

Also the moderators are some random 3rd party company in the Philippines or somewhere, if you think they are forming bonds and liking users then its clear you have no idea how moderation works.....
it doesnt matter what the rules say, what matter is what rules gets enforced. You think majority is always right no matter what and the majority knows I'm right so i think you do too. Actions speak louder than words. People can say they will do something but it only matters what they actually do, not say they will do.
"Saying" is also a form of "doing".
Speaking. Is an action.


Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: brian9824
While there at it they should also ban people who troll by posting fake conspiracies, calling people bots, shills, fake accounts, etc. Get rid of all the trolling and make the forums and discussions based on actual facts.
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories, they're just theories about conspiracies, do you think theories are bad? everything good starts with a theory?
Hypothesis. If we're going to use scientific parlance yes.
But a theory is only as valid as it can be shown to be objectively true.
That's the problem with COnspiracty Theories. They are:

A) Almost always based on ignorance of fact.
B) Unfalsifiable
C) Encourage a mindset that causes a person to reject new information based on their emotions rather than the truth value of the information.

Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Discussions only based on facts? then these forums would be dead.
Facts and the applications and implications of facts are where a lot of hearty discussions take place. Especially since there;'s always a chance that you will learn new facts that you did not know before.

Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
You wouldn't even be able to make a post about something cool that happened in the game because yo don't have proof to show it happened.
Yeah. theres a reason Pics or it didn't hasppen is a thing in the internet gaming community. Morseso than the words would suggest.

And you know the fact that humans do this thing called 'lying' on the regular and their tendency to lie increases in proportion to their perceived distance from the consequences of said lie.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
it doesnt matter what the rules say, what matter is what rules gets enforced.
I suggest you take 10-15 minutes to read thru your posts and get your claims straight and figuire out what claim you are even trying to make.

You've gone from claiming

The rules are vague
The rules don't cover actions
The rules aren't enforced
etc.

Your changing your claims every other post because you keep making false claims that are incredibly easy to disprove. So take a few, come up with a claim that actually makes sense and that you will stick with and we can discuss it.
"pics or it didn't happen" can be compared to "what happens on steam stays on steam"

users wanting pics is just another form of shaming which if you watched anything on the internet you will see there is a whole level of shaming that uses pictures, today in the digital work pictures can get you in more trouble then anything, taking unauthorized pictures is just a attempt to defamation and likely to create a legal issue within itself

what i would be more concerned about is the links to steam that exist , if anyone is really connected to steam beyond just being a user they need to cease using the forum and desist from any type of interaction, as it will only implicate steam deeper into the manipulation lawsuits raised by developers.

if you own any game on steam it means there is some type of payment history and payment information linked to steam so they have real user data and that data can be warranted by the legal system to provide proof, its even possibly that users could enact a lawsuit against steam against the users that use steam because of its inability or its allowance of dangerous typical insulting and defamation.

while it would be extreme, someone who owns 1000's of games on steam would be more liable then someone who owns zero, simply because there is proof of expensive and money changed hands, it could also be considered a form of bribery because steam is receiving money from a individual and allowing them to attack other users, such as the case with steam users who own 1000's of games yet continually attack steam users who don't.

its all very serious it has to deal with both social and commerce type guide laws , that there is a major can of worms that steam opened with a forum full of offending users. that those users need to act in accordance with rules and regulations regardless of if the system wants to punish them or not.
Автор сообщения: brian9824
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
it doesnt matter what the rules say, what matter is what rules gets enforced.
I suggest you take 10-15 minutes to read thru your posts and get your claims straight and figuire out what claim you are even trying to make.

You've gone from claiming

The rules are vague
The rules don't cover actions
The rules aren't enforced
etc.

Your changing your claims every other post because you keep making false claims that are incredibly easy to disprove. So take a few, come up with a claim that actually makes sense and that you will stick with and we can discuss it.
nope never changed any claim and you cant prove it. You are always talking about proof but you never have any lol
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
nope never changed any claim and you cant prove it. You are always talking about proof but you never have any lol

Eh your own words prove it, but its ok, you won't admit it, and you've made up claims about me you still refuse to back up. Everyone reading this thread sees it so its no skin off my back if you want to keep sprouting falsehoods.

The truth is the rules aren't hard to follow, myself and others do it every day. So if your having issues you should look inward and see why you aren't capable of following basic rules.

Stuff like posting -rep and attacking people on their screenshots are also against the rules, but you still refuse to actually read them
Отредактировано Brian9824; 29 окт. 2023 г. в 8:47
Автор сообщения: brian9824
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
nope never changed any claim and you cant prove it. You are always talking about proof but you never have any lol

Eh your own words prove it, but its ok, you won't admit it, and you've made up claims about me you still refuse to back up. Everyone reading this thread sees it so its no skin off my back if you want to keep sprouting falsehoods.

The truth is the rules aren't hard to follow, myself and others do it every day. So if your having issues you should look inward and see why you aren't capable of following basic rules.

Stuff like posting -rep and attacking people on their screenshots are also against the rules, but you still refuse to actually read them
your reply still have no proof. then you publicly accuse me with off topic stuff and accuse me again of breaking the rules.
You claimed i change my claim but you can't even say what.
Автор сообщения: RFK FTW
Автор сообщения: brian9824

Eh your own words prove it, but its ok, you won't admit it, and you've made up claims about me you still refuse to back up. Everyone reading this thread sees it so its no skin off my back if you want to keep sprouting falsehoods.

The truth is the rules aren't hard to follow, myself and others do it every day. So if your having issues you should look inward and see why you aren't capable of following basic rules.

Stuff like posting -rep and attacking people on their screenshots are also against the rules, but you still refuse to actually read them
your reply still have no proof. then you publicly accuse me with off topic stuff and accuse me again of breaking the rules.
You claimed i change my claim but you can't even say what.

Suggest you go back and read. Its there
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