The Watcher and The Player's Reward System

[masterJin]

The Watcher and The Player's Reward System

what's an watcher?
Watcher:
watchers are viewers with a watcher pass who gets paid for watching a Match of a Player.
A watcher has to pay 4$ by selling cases to buy the Watcher pass

Requirements for the Watcher
-Their trust factor should be green.
-Their overwatch case bans should be more than 1000.
-They should have minimum of 1.5k hours in game.
-They should have a 5 year veteran coin.

how does a watcher's rewarding system work?
a Watcher will receive 0.45GP by fully watching the Match of a Player (Game Points)
if the Watchers views a Player who's not in a match, they will only receive 0.2VP (View Points) every 10 minutes.
the watcher gets 0.10RP(Report Points) for spotting and reporting a cheater in a match. If the Player(broadcaster) has connected to a match, the View Points system will stop, and the Game Point system will activate
*0.10 will go to steam* + *0.2 will go to steam* a total sum of 0.12 Points will go to steam

how do you earn with the watcher pass?
only with the pass he/she is eligible to earn money through watching a Short/Long match.

What can a viewer do with his Watcher Pass?
- A watcher pass holder's report is more effective than a common report.( a common report is cosidered as 1 report by one gamer in the match and 1 report by a Watcher is considered to be taken as 3 reports from a match)
-a maximum of 3 watchers can watch the match together and 3 reports are necessary to file a case on the hacker.
-3 watcher pass holder's are required to kick a cheater from the match. (if suppose the team ain't kicking)
-the watcher can only report one time in a match.
-a Watcher can find live matches from the closest server based on their ping settings

how many gamer reports does it take to file a complaint?
a maximum of 22 reports by the Gamers(teammate/opponent) is needed for it to consider it as a complaint.
the complaints are taken down into the database(a third party software or in game option)

what happens if a complaint has been filed on a hacker?
-The Overwatcher is a match reviewer and has the power to ban a cheater(temporarily).
-complaint reports are sent to the Overwatchers.
-the overwatcher can temporarily ban an account only if the suspect has more than 4 complaints filed on him.
-they earn 0.90BP(ban points) for the bans
0.09 will goto steamcoin.

Requirements:
-To be an Overwatcher he/she needs to be a 10 year veteran
-they need to have 10k+ hours in game and 2000+ bans on overwatch cases.
-They have to pay 22$ for taking the role of an Overwatcher which they can get by selling a case.
-Their sole purpose is to review complaints and investigate suspects.

what's the process behind filing a complaint?
-suspected steam accounts will be sent to them via email or any other preferred platform such as Whatsapp etc.
from the information they received the overwatchers can start looking for the suspects file by accessing the database to check for complaints and if the suspect has previous records of cheating he is taken into custody and given a temporary vac ban where the games he played can be downloaded and reviewed by the Overwatchers. After reviewing the match he/she can decide whether to ban them from MM (not a permanent ban) or not.
If they don't ban him/her he's off the hook but his/her file should stay or should be unable to delete from the database.
If they decide to ban him/her he/she only receives a temporary ban for 44days
after the ban has been processed
the yellow bar won't show and if
he/she tries to queue they'll recieve a notification saying that they won't be able to queue for a normal rank but if they try to stay and queue they'll be queued to the Hollow with no name/no communication and no hud/no radar. If a cheater wins 10 games without using cheats during his ban period of 44 days he will get a new rank Hollow, Hollowed Shadow, Shadow Master and Shadow Legion.(They're all allowed to use hacks in there.) We give the hacker 14 Strikes for them to stop hacking before they get IP Banned in game.

how does the reporting system work and how is it sent to the Overwatchers?
a viewer with a Watcher Pass spots a cheater based on his/her knowledge of the game and files a cheater complaint on that account that complaint is sent to the Database.
if a gamer(teammate/opponent) spots a cheater and reports the cheater the server takes note of it and sends it to the database where the suspects record of complaints will be stored.

The Player:
someone who broadcasts their game screen to people in the game and to their community is the Player.

A Gamers has to pay 4$ to get The Player pass
how does a player earn?
-A Player who broadcasts a match to their Watchers will earn 0.50GP(GamePoints)

what can a Gamer with a Player pass do?
-the Player can call for nearby Watchers to deal with the hacker.
-if the Player doesn't have anyone to watch his/her game, he/she can invite a watcher to view the game from the Watchers menu

I've heard of vac live and i think this is how it works
so the AI is given a person's mind(professional cheater analyst or it reads a hacker movement) the Cheater Analyst AI finds abnormalities from a gamer and calls for a vote in the lobby they're playing where both the teams can vote whether to kick the suspect or not.
what happens after the suspect is reported and kicked out of the match the other teammates in the match will be given exp boost for that match maybe get a drop. there's 4 strikes given to the the suspect before he is banned temporarily from competitive matchmaking until he's proven not guilty by the Overwatchers
a review will be conducted after observing the hacker for days by Vac Live
if the player is guilty, he will stay in the Hollow.

what's the purpose of making a server for cheaters?
It's a place for bringing justice to the community by reviewing cheaters matches and conclude whether they are guilty or not.

how does it work in your mind?
so this is how it works in my mind
a Player is broadcasting his/her gameplay to the community, a watcher takes interest and starts watching his/her gameplay they both earn Points during the match which can be redeemed later in the redeem shop so the player earns (Points) for long match and (Points) for short match the watcher will receive (Points) for watching a game the overwatcher will get (Points) for every hackers he banned if he acts selfish and bans randomly, well he will be ripped off his title and he won't get the points.
the points earned can be used in redeem shop.

Redeem shop
The Game Points you earn will be added in your points wallet from there you can convert it into Steam money to spend on Skins, Games, Gift cards or Payment of your choice from 5$ - 99$.

Steamcoin
if a Player, a Watcher or a Overwatcher pays for their passes with real money and the money they used to buy thier passes will be stored in their crypto wallet as Steamcoin(day by day or yearly the price increases or drops), the wallet deducts 0.2% fee if they decide to withdraw or transfer the money from the wallet with the knowledge of the account holder they can dropout if they want.

i edited it as much as i can from my last post to make it short and understandable feel free to comment i need critics xD
there might be flaws in it but you can suggest more ideas and let it be heard through the entire community, by the developers and technicians if you liked this.

i might consider using this as a reference for providing ideas for a better anti cheat in other games like Apex Legends, Rainbow6 Siege and Call of duty.
mostly i might get lazy and just copy pasta who knows....

[edit]also we could do this instead
make csgo as the place where the hackers go for punishment and cs2 is for the fair players

[Brian9824]

So many things wrong with the idea from IP bans being completely useless, to peopel are not going to be paid to do what your suggesting.

As well as the fact that this is for suggestions to the steam client, and steam isn't going to pay people to do anti-cheat for other developers games. You want to pitch ideas for Apex, Call of duty, etc go post it in THEIR forums and ask them to pay.

[Gwarsbane]

I said it last time in your other thread about this SAME topic... this is a rambling mess...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3819656548993416915/



Problems with this...

People are not going to pay to watch others play the game. If they enjoy the game they will play it not sit there for hours and watch it.

People are not going to pay to be an "overwatcher". If they enjoy the game they will play it not sit there for hours and watch it. People who have 10,000+ hours in the game, will not sit there and just watch stuff.

Valve is not going to pay people to broadcast their games.

The crypto part is DOA because Valve will NOT support crypto, just get that out of your head right now.

Last I heard, Valve is working with machine learning and teaching their system what to look for to help go after cheating. BUT this takes a long time, they don't just "give the steam a persons mind..." it has to be shown cheating videos.... hundreds of thousands or millions of cheating videos (more there are the better the system is)

As brian mentioned, if you want this for games other than Valve games, you are going to have to go and ask those game developers in their games discussion areas (another reason why the crypto stuff is DOA)


Your suggestion now is as bad as it was last time.

[nullable]

Imagining a complicated system, doesn't necessarily make it a good system.

And I have to agree with the others, a lot of your idea is based on some flawed premises.

I think using age of account is one of those. Inventing a whole crypto coin to operate your system. The user having to pay Valve to participate. The reward system for bans or finding cheaters. I mean talk about incentivizing people to try and recoup the cost of moderating, maybe compels some biases against objective reviewing.

I mean good luck, but my prediction is it will be a cold day in hell before we see anything close to this mess being implemented.

[Gwarsbane]

Also OP, do you even realize how long 10,000 hours is? At 2 hours a day, every single day, it would take someone 13+ years to get to that point. Not many people play that much.

The only people who have an actual 10,000+ hours in the game are people who idled the game or professionals who played it for e-sports. At 8 hours a day, EVERY SINGLE DAY, they could get 10,000 hours in about 3.4+ years.

There is no one who is playing that much, will have time to pay into your system to watch for cheaters or do overwatch or what ever you want to call it. Someone that is playing that much is an "e-sports professional" or they are deeply addicted to the game (get home from work, play, go to sleep, then go to work, come home and play and thats all they do), or they are idling the game in the background to get items. People who are addicted to the game, won't pay to watch, people who are idling the game, won't pay to watch. A casual player will never have the amount of time you suggest.

And I didn't even think to mention it, but nullable is right, you would be "incentivizing people to try and recoup the cost of moderating" and that means LOTS of false accusations.