Start an OPNSense Based IPSEC enabled VAC Client

[LordNIKON]

I have recently built and setup an OPNSense firewall with IP blocking and intrusion detection. The performance benefits have been amazing. I propose that Valve increase its security stance to enable fully encrypted and private game network connectivity by providing a downloadable Virtual appliance that can act as a security interface for the steam network and to provide extremely low latency connections between nodes. This could also enable better control of bad actors to perform attacks on the network.

For those willing to take the step even further, make a distribution available like SteamOS, for installation on custom hardware to run as a firewall replacement. It could even be called "SteamSense"

Game Safe!

[Xunzul]

I prefer real id check with credit card number cross check, plus phone number check.

[Boblin the Goblin]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

I prefer real id check with credit card number cross check, plus phone number check.

That is extremely invasive and illegal in most countries. It also wouldn't help with your theory of devs paying cheaters or whatever.

[[N]ebsun]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย LordNIKON:

enable fully encrypted and private game network connectivity by providing a downloadable Virtual appliance that can act as a security interface for the steam network and to provide extremely low latency connections between nodes. This could also enable better control of bad actors to perform attacks on the network.

Not sure what you are asking for... sounds like a way to verify / authenticate client connections to the game server ? to prevent unauthorised network traffic ?

[Xunzul]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SlowMango:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

I prefer real id check with credit card number cross check, plus phone number check.

That is extremely invasive and illegal in most countries. It also wouldn't help with your theory of devs paying cheaters or whatever.

Yes, it's extremely invasive for criminals, scammers and cheaters too of the entire world. But hey, they are customers too after all if we give them the tools and the opportunity to not be discovered....

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

I prefer real id check with credit card number cross check, plus phone number check.

Valve isn't a company that is allowed to ask for an ID from me, nor deny me anything if I don't want to give it. I quite like those laws. Let alone that many people in the world don't even have an ID since it's not mandatory in large parts of the world to have one.

Credit cards aren't common in lots of places.

Phone numbers are useless. Burner phones and cheap SIM cards are a thing.

[Xunzul]

Who like to be anonymous in all aspects on a community have something to hide, i don't have to hide anything so i don't have the same problems you have. I feel more scary in a situation where i was talking with 10 users and they may be only 1 person who act as 10(Thx to this anonymous accounts system).

[Satoru]

Tell me you dont know anything about security, without telling me you know nothing about security

You're somehow thinking a perimiter firewall and an ipsec tunnel have ANYTHING to do with a LOCAL client issue?

Don't throw around security terms you don't understand about solving issues you have no idea about

[Mad Scientist]

This doesn't really sound like something most gaming clients would want to consider, let alone its legitimate userbase.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

I prefer real id check with credit card number cross check, plus phone number check.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

Who like to be anonymous in all aspects on a community have something to hide, i don't have to hide anything so i don't have the same problems you have. I feel more scary in a situation where i was talking with 10 users and they may be only 1 person who act as 10(Thx to this anonymous accounts system).

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Satoru:

Tell me you dont know anything about security, without telling me you know nothing about security

You're somehow thinking a perimiter firewall and an ipsec tunnel have ANYTHING to do with a LOCAL client issue?

Don't throw around security terms you don't understand about solving issues you have no idea about

The scarier part is when people want to re-enter the "papers, please" era.
You're right about the local client vs everything after part as well, doesn't really seem...effective.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

Phone numbers are useless. Burner phones and cheap SIM cards are a thing.

Yeah, I know a lot of people that do this just to get verified social media accounts without having to give any personal information, since most verification is just a valid phone number to receive one text message. Sort of an ironic thing they want personal info but cheap sim cards that can be used prevents collecting such. Almost like it's meaningless and just prevents basic spam/scams (but as we all know, can still be hijacked if someone is gullible for phishing).

Imaging if someone used their ID and got a hijacked account. Forever marked by others actions, even if their responsibility for account security.

[Supafly]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

Who like to be anonymous in all aspects on a community have something to hide, i don't have to hide anything so i don't have the same problems you have. I feel more scary in a situation where i was talking with 10 users and they may be only 1 person who act as 10(Thx to this anonymous accounts system).

I'm not scum, I don't cheat and I'll have a private profile if I want. If you don't like that that is YOUR problem. Your problem will NOT prevent anyone, myself included, from playing games they/we have purchased. What you propose is illegal and in practical.

For a start you can get a Sim only aka new number for 5 quid. Something those that pay for cheats would be more than willing to pay

[Tito Shivan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

Who like to be anonymous in all aspects on a community have something to hide

Or simply they're telling you that part they don't show you is none of your business.
I don't have something to hide when I go to the bathroom and still close the door.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

i don't have to hide anything

Give that answer a very through second though. Privacy is a thing easy to lose and really, really hard to regain.

[Xunzul]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mad Scientist:

The scarier part is when people want to re-enter the "papers, please" era.
You're right about the local client vs everything after part as well, doesn't really seem...effective.

For sure it was and will better than now.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

Who like to be anonymous in all aspects on a community have something to hide

Or simply they're telling you that part they don't show you is none of your business.
I don't have something to hide when I go to the bathroom and still close the door.

Oh yes, this is a bathroom for sure. Nice example.

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

i don't have to hide anything

Yet you have chosen to not present all info about yourself on your profile and made various parts of it private/friends only. If it's not done for "hiding", it means you decided that not all info should be available to everybody.

Not wanting to give highly sensitive info (yes, an ID, for example, is exactly that) to a commercial company also has nothing to do with "hiding" things. It's simply people chosing to not make all info available to everybody.

[Xunzul]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

i don't have to hide anything

Yet you have chosen to not present all info about yourself on your profile and made various parts of it private/friends only. If it's not done for "hiding", it means you decided that not all info should be available to everybody.

Not wanting to give highly sensitive info (yes, an ID, for example, is exactly that) to a commercial company also has nothing to do with "hiding" things. It's simply people chosing to not make all info available to everybody.

I do it cos in a community where are present lots of scammers, haters, trolls, fake, alts, etc etc... i don't trust to let see my info to all. But, if im sure all are recognized and tracked from the system(Valve) and can't avoid detection, i'll open my profile to all.

It's anonymity that generates distrust in my opinion and i think im right cos nobody can say to me you are all alt-accounts of the same person using vpn, hw spoofer, virtual machines, different internet connections by different cell phones, etc etc... I know about security, more than you think.

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

Yet you have chosen to not present all info about yourself on your profile and made various parts of it private/friends only. If it's not done for "hiding", it means you decided that not all info should be available to everybody.

Not wanting to give highly sensitive info (yes, an ID, for example, is exactly that) to a commercial company also has nothing to do with "hiding" things. It's simply people chosing to not make all info available to everybody.

I do it cos in a community where are present lots of scammers, haters, trolls, fake, alts, etc etc... i don't trust to let see my info to all. But, if im sure all are recognized and tracked from the system(Valve) and can't avoid detection, i'll open my profile to all.

It's anonymity that generates distrust in my opinion and i think im right cos nobody can say to me you are all alt-accounts of the same person.

As I said, you make a choice regarding the information you're willing to share and when/how you do it. That is nothing different from me not wanting to share my ID with a commercial company that cannot verify it and cannot be trusted with such information to begin with.

Nobody can say that you're not an alt account either. So what?

[Xunzul]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xunzul:

I do it cos in a community where are present lots of scammers, haters, trolls, fake, alts, etc etc... i don't trust to let see my info to all. But, if im sure all are recognized and tracked from the system(Valve) and can't avoid detection, i'll open my profile to all.

It's anonymity that generates distrust in my opinion and i think im right cos nobody can say to me you are all alt-accounts of the same person.

As I said, you make a choice regarding the information you're willing to share and when/how you do it. That is nothing different from me not wanting to share my ID with a commercial company that cannot verify it and cannot be trusted with such information to begin with.

Nobody can say that you're not an alt account either. So what?

You ask so what ? We're all plausible criminals as plausible innocents, only facts count and the ability to discover the "hidden facts". The system as it's now, help more the distrust than the trust; for my personal opinion all of this enhance the criminality. Anonimity is more near to "criminals" than "innocents". If scammers use real information about us they must persecuted and arrested and not tell to all population to hide from them, that's not the way to fix the problems.... but hey, im not in command, it's not mine responsability.