Background check of the game developers to avoid scam software & fraud games on steam !

[MAXE]

Alot of games lately that has only been added to milk the gamers for their hard earned money, with game developers that promess alot but leaves the buyers with basicly nothing than a hope in sometimes a decade without getting it !

The gamers kinda need some sort of security against that, so Valve would need some sort of agreement with the game developers to ensure that they keep what promess to steam´s customers, so if the game developer promess a golden ak-47 in a game that can kill with dragon fire and awesome effects, then the game developer would be forced to deliver that kind of content or give the money back to the players that demands a refound even if the player has been a part of the early access and played the games for many hours or years !

Testers normally cost around 400000 dollars a year and the gamers are abused with their own money by all this early access, so atleast give them a safetynet to allow them to step out of it again without burning their wallets on it, if it turns out that the game is developed to scam people that like that genre !

This will allso make the game developers think twice, before promess anything to the gamers here on Steam !

Early access should be free to play and thous players that take part in that, should be given the games for free as a compensation of not getting any wage for the helping job done when entering a beta version of a game in development !

This will allso prevent game developers from stealing people´s money and then leave the project without finish the game in development first !

I see it alot and that is why I adress this issue

Maxe

[Nx Machina]

What is Early Access?

"Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it DEVELOPS".

"This Early Access game is NOT COMPLETE and MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE FURTHER. If YOU are not excited to play this game in its CURRENT STATE, then YOU should WAIT to see IF the game progresses further in DEVELOPMENT".

(It really does not get any CLEARER than that).

Safety Net = Do not add to cart, do not checkout.

Free to play? Developers choice. Secondly your choice to say no to Early Access, but you are the one who added the product to the cart and clicked confirm.

And finally AAA developers also make promises, Anthem is one example, plus content gets cut from AAA games and AAA get cancelled.

[𝕎𝕠𝕦𝕤𝕖𝕝𝕫]

Your "safetynet" should be your common sense.
You want to be sure the game has all promised features?
Then don't buy it while in ea and wait for full release... read reviews, watch gameplay videos and look if the game match your taste/needs... simple as that. ¯\__/¯

[Gwarsbane]

Don't like early access stuff... then wait till its out of early access. This way, you don't waste your money, but you will have to wait a long time to play the game. You are warned on EVERY early access page that you are buying the game as is, with no promise of it ever being finished and no promise of getting everything thats been mentioned could be in it.

Games take a long time to make, years in fact.

If you don't think developers should get any money while developing their game, then don't buy it while its in early access. Developers however need money to actually be able to work on their game. Early Access is one way to do it. One of the easier ways when you are not a big enough developer with a publisher behind you.


So just like all the other anti-early access threads... if you don't like it, don't buy them. Its just that simple.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Alot of games lately that has only been added to milk the gamers for their hard earned money, with game developers that promess alot but leaves the buyers with basicly nothing than a hope in sometimes a decade without getting it !

The gamers kinda need some sort of security against that

There is a safety net which consist of not purchasing early access games.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Early access should be free to play and thous players that take part in that, should be given the games for free as a compensation of not getting any wage for the helping job done when entering a beta version of a game in development !

Damn man reading must be hard... Wait who even read these days? Oh right people that not mindlessly throwing money at 1st game they see that early access,and then gets mad because it not what they expected, despite the WARNINGS, and all that, but hey why that matter, just demand games to be free because that what you're demanding lmao.

Anyways your demand for free games doesn't work, if devs looking to sale a product, they're gonna sell it one way, or another even if you don't like it, and if you don't want to buy into it, JUST DON'T BUY IT, it's that simple, heck even doing a review checking videos, checking posts, reviews, all that stuff, and could've got some answers before even buying into it, and when you know it's a UNFINISHED game, it should be a HUGE HINT that CHANGES CAN HAPPEN, as they might listen to feedback, and MAKE SAID CHANGES that YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE, as Devs are willing to sell at lower cost for unfinished, and either they keep same price, or raise it when they fully release the game.

[Tito Shivan]

There we go again.
-You can't force a dev to deliver a product. Damn, even Valve themselves haven't delivered HL3.

-Projects fail every other day. Early Access plays no role in it. It happened before Early Access. It'll happen after

-Hanlon's Razor

-If you really want that golden ak-47 in a game that can kill with dragon fire and awesome effects, wait for that gun to be implemented in game. Do you purchase games because the dev promised a golden ak-47 in a game that can kill with dragon fire and awesome effects in a future DLC?

-You're nowhere bloody near to the job of betatesting a game by playing it in early access.

If you want a finished game, buy the game when it's finished. It's simple as that.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Caveat Emptor and "free stuff" all in one.

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

Oh god it's this guy again.

Early access comes with a big blue warning box. Read it before buying.

[JamesF0790]

You are playing a game in early access. You can call yourself a "tester" when you replay the same mission 500 times to check for bugs. When every little error results in a detailed bug report. And most of all when you are getting paid for it. If you don't want to play a game in early access then don't buy it. Simple as that.

What certain "gamers" need is the ability to accept personal responsibility for decisions they've made. Scam games are far and few inbetween.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

The gamers kinda need some sort of security against that, so Valve would need some sort of agreement with the game developers to ensure that they keep what promess to steam´s customers, so if the game developer promess a golden ak-47 in a game that can kill with dragon fire and awesome effects, then the game developer would be forced to deliver that kind of content or give the money back to the players that demands a refound even if the player has been a part of the early access and played the games for many hours or years !

Game development is an organic and unpredictable process. "Forcing" devs to do anything is a recipe for disaster.

[MAXE]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Game development is an organic and unpredictable process. "Forcing" devs to do anything is a recipe for disaster.

No it is not a organic and unpredictable process or a recipe of disaster and here is why it is not that !

You haven't made a plan and or a calendar for each process you have to complete before moving on to the next step in your game development ...

it's called having things under control and a boss that know wich direction/goal the project needs to achieve to get success with the development !

Otherwise we have a representative who self-denyingly tried to bring things under control and conduct unreasonable negotiations with the customers and deceives them time and time again with new claims about the product is still under development but in reality just shovels in money without doing anything about it or very little about it !.

Yes, hiring more professional staff could be a good solution to a game developers reputation, if you don't have the mentality of a boss yourself, then hire someone who can get things rolling along with a planner team is absolute a great idea !.

If your strongest side aint source coding, well then you hire a person that got that set of skills, you might even be lucky that this hired person got more skills than that !

Everything else is to robbing people who believe in the game projects !

Im just trying to be reasonable here, both ways of cause !

[JamesF0790]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

No it is not a organic and unpredictable process and here is why it is not that !

You haven't made a plan and or a calendar for each process you have to complete before moving on to the next step in your game development ...

it's called having things under control and a boss that know wich direction/goal the project needs to achieve !

Otherwise we have a representative who self-denyingly tried to bring things under control and conduct unreasonable negotiations with the customers and deceives them time and time again with new claims about the product is still under development but in reality just shovels in money without doing anything about it or very little about it !.

Yes, hiring more professional staff could be a good solution to a game developers reputation, if you don't have the mentality of a boss yourself, then hire someone who can get things rolling along with a planner team is absolute a great idea !.

If your strongest side aint source coding, well then you hire a person that got that set of skills, you might even be lucky that this hired person got more skills than that !

Everything else is to robbing people who believe in the game projects ! :steamdeadpan:

Im just trying to be reasonable here, both ways of cause !

Except you're wrong. It is organic and unpredictable. You don't know the challenges you're going to face or the problems that will crop up. Both internal and external issues. While a large company may have the resources to add more people to the team (Which does NOT always solve things as a note) but sometimes there just isn't the budget for more people

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Game development is an organic and unpredictable process. "Forcing" devs to do anything is a recipe for disaster.

No it is not a organic and unpredictable process or a recipe of disaster and here is why it is not that !

You haven't made a plan and or a calendar for each process you have to complete before moving on to the next step in your game development ...

it's called having things under control and a boss that know wich direction/goal the project needs to achieve to get success with the development !

Otherwise we have a representative who self-denyingly tried to bring things under control and conduct unreasonable negotiations with the customers and deceives them time and time again with new claims about the product is still under development but in reality just shovels in money without doing anything about it or very little about it !.

Yes, hiring more professional staff could be a good solution to a game developers reputation, if you don't have the mentality of a boss yourself, then hire someone who can get things rolling along with a planner team is absolute a great idea !.

If your strongest side aint source coding, well then you hire a person that got that set of skills, you might even be lucky that this hired person got more skills than that !

Everything else is to robbing people who believe in the game projects ! :steamdeadpan:

Im just trying to be reasonable here, both ways of cause !

How many 6+ month, $5+M projects have you managed to be making statements like that?

[Brian9824]

This makes absolutely no sense. Once again if you don't want the risk of EA then don't buy it. There is no way to get the benefits without the risks.

[Pocahawtness]

What's really needed is sanity checks for the people who buy Early Access.